This is a ridiculous thing to try and attack somebody with. Of course I think my opinions are correct.

thought for sure you would say "nice strawman kike" but wow you think what's good for you must be good for everyone and what you think must be the answer.

nice strawman.

do you believe what you just said is true? if so:

Жұқтыру: "My opinions are facts"

Do you think your opinions are wrong? This is a ridiculous thing to try and attack somebody with. Of course I think my opinions are correct.

Well, having righteous attitude about your beliefs is kind of what FDR is talking about...

do you believe what you just said is true? if so:

Жұқтыру: "My opinions are facts"

belief =/= fact

I believe you have cognitive dissonance. =/= You have cognitive dissonance.

Edited 12/15/2016 04:38:11

so you're saying what you've just said is not a fact?

why would you say something that you know is not true? you're a liar.

Trump is president. If we could all just grow up and accept it, that'd be nice.

why would you say something that you know is not true? you're a liar.

knowledge =/= belief

(in my thought) The cognitive dissonance is getting pretty high.

Those are not facts. I don't care. Let me know when you have some knowledge to share.

Edited 12/15/2016 06:07:06

Trump is president. If we could all just grow up and accept it, that'd be nice.

I'm not sure who this strawman is directed at but I have not seen one person deny that Donald Trump is President-Elect or say anything indicating they have not accepted that fact.

I believe what you mean is that you want people to stop criticizing him. Many people have criticized President Obama for eight years, and President Bush for eight years before that. Had Hillary Clinton won, she would have been criticized for her entire term(s). Please explain why President-Elect Trump should not be criticized. Should we pass Lèse-majesté laws and make it illegal to criticize him?

Edited 12/15/2016 07:13:17

Uh did you not see "#notmypresident"?

There's a line between criticism and whining.

Those are not facts. I don't care. Let me know when you have some knowledge to share.

and your opinions are not facts neither so you should stop posting memes that whine about Trump. Let me know when you have some knowledge to share.

those are not facts, let me know when you have some knowledge to share.

There's a line between criticism and whining.

in this context, no, there is not. only whether or not you agree with or approve of the criticism. let me know when a law is passed that says you must agree with and approve of my criticism of Donald Trump -- until then, I will continue exercising my freedom of speech.

let me know when you have some knowledge to share

Fair Criticism of Trump:

This guy, he's a loose cannon and I worry that he can lead to problems down the line. I also don't like how his business can conflict with his interests as president.

Unfair Criticism of Trump:

He lost a billion dollars in a year, and hasn't released his tax-returns, so I don't think he is going to be a good president.

Whining:

Wtf America! How did we elect this crazy dude, are you guys afraid of Hillary or something? We had a perfect opportunity to make history and just because it was a woman means we get Trump!?

those are all criticism of Trump, some of it you evidently agree with so you characterize it as 'fair' and some of it you don't like so you characterize it as 'unfair' or 'whining' -- those labels are meaningless. you don't get to decide what criticisms people can and cannot have.

Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction.

i don't see anything in there about these three classes of criticism you claim there are, two of which people are not allowed to share. seems like all opinions and ideas are treated the same.

Edited 12/15/2016 23:39:53

those are all criticism of Trump, some of it you evidently agree with so you characterize it as 'fair' and some of it you don't like so you characterize it as 'unfair' or 'whining' -- those labels are meaningless. you don't get to decide what criticisms people can and cannot have.

First criticism: An actual argument as to why he wouldn't be a good president
Second criticism: Arguing that because of an unrelated to thing to governing, trump will be a bad president
Third criticism: Not an argument
Not found: Benjamin saying that you can't say the two latter

Freedom of speech is the right to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of government retaliation or censorship, or societal sanction.

I just read that again, still don't see anything in there about different classes of opinions and ideas, or whether other people have to agree with them, like them, or approve of them.