One, the western world is going to hell and currently wants to invade Russia

This. I don't want America to become like Europe.

If fear is the only thing that convince people to support trump you are utterly doomed. there is nothing more hilarious in a horrifying way, than a horde of sheeps running from fear towards the abyss!

This is it. Some of Trump's policy is reasonable. What I can't stand is the American electorate was coaxed into voting for him because they feared they were "losing their country" because of his incendiary xenophobic rhetoric (Hitler, Mussolini, Imperial Japan did the same).

If fear is the only thing that convince people to support trump you are utterly doomed. there is nothing more hilarious in a horrifying way, than a horde of sheeps running from fear towards the abyss!

This is it. Some of Trump's policy is reasonable. What I can't stand is the American electorate was coaxed into voting for him because they feared they were "losing their country" because of his incendiary xenophobic rhetoric (Hitler, Mussolini, Imperial Japan did the same).

1). Godwins Law says you already lost this debate.

2). If you think people voted for Trump because xenophobia, you have been indoctrinated and are no longer capable of free thought.

I mean, good-fucking-goodness, of course no one could vote for Trump because they believe he'd be better economically, or because Hillary Clinton put classified documents on a stupidly old server, or because she was an ineffective SoS who basically let four people at the Libyan Embassy get murdered and only got away with it because her party controlled a good deal of the Gov. at the time?

Saying "Trump got elected because xenophobia" is as ignorant as saying criminals get shot because they are black.

This. I don't want America to become like Europe.

Oh, civil freedoms and highest quality of life...

*shivers*

seriously saying this is as pathetic as what some of my fellows-in-homeland say about Belaroos and Smolensk being in the Polishlithuanian commonwealth and it's just pathetic and funny to watch them try to make it out truthlessly like it was awful.

Andrew, Clinton's entire campaign was run on hating Trump, saying he's hitler, and generally being a mockery of fairness. Meanwhile, Trump was positive af, likable, and responded to what folk actually wanted instead of what he wanted for folk.

I swear if the democrats do this a second time, this country will be in an actual civil war. They whipped up such hatred, if anything, celebrities and businesses that supported them should be boycotted, they nearly led us into a damn world war.

Tbh, for what Clinton has done, she deserves to be dropped out of a helicopter. Remember Libya.

Andrew, Clinton's entire campaign was run on hating Trump, saying he's hitler, and generally being a mockery of fairness. Meanwhile, Trump was positive af, likable, and responded to what folk actually wanted instead of what he wanted for folk.

You've really fell off the horse there, haven't you.

Trump's done the same but with more brashness, more likability, and meaningless lozingi that sound and would be great like ridding of crookedness in Washington.

I swear if the democrats do this a second time, this country will be in an actual civil war.

Franklin Roosevelt your hero in wartime and much worse economy did it 400 times.

LOL !!
*roasted*
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kek

They whipped up such hatred, if anything, celebrities and businesses that supported them should be boycotted, they nearly led us into a damn world war.

Clinton would not lead to a civil war, you really have to have fallen off the horse hard to believe that a no-fly zone for somewhere where Russia's leaving anyway cares. Even a direct invasion of Russia likely wouldn't lead to war...like the invasion of Pakistan by G. Bush or A. Vajpayee.

she deserves to be dropped out of a helicopter. Remember Libya.

or how about remembering the helping of the Mashriq by Republicans and Democrats, all the other bloody wars she's recalled? And don't implify Trump shouldn't be dropped from a rooftop.

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Godwins Law says you already lost this debate.

bullshit?

If you think people voted for Trump because xenophobia, you have been indoctrinated and are no longer capable of free thought.

Bullshit again? your premise was neither said nor implied.

I mean, good-fucking-goodness, of course no one could vote for Trump because they believe he'd be better economically, or because Hillary Clinton put classified documents on a stupidly old server

why not?

The cities need to be fixed.

I agree with that. But this issue doesnt belongs into a presidential election, in my opinion. Btw. there is an easy way to fix it, which nobody likes to hear: end police corruption by charging policemen for their crimes. Get rid off Darwinism and raise social standards and most important abolish the right for citizens of carrying a weapon.

Clinton would not lead to a civil war, you really have to have fallen off the horse hard to believe that a no-fly zone for somewhere where Russia's leaving anyway cares. Even a direct invasion of Russia likely wouldn't lead to war...like the invasion of Pakistan by G. Bush or A. Vajpayee.

The Kargil war was between forces smaller than brigades in a small mountainous area. It is not the vast rolling steppes of West Russia, where it would be easy for a force to keep going after winning a battle.

And as far as I know, Bush 'invaded' with Pakistan's approval. That's like saying that American forces in Canada are invading.

or how about remembering the helping of the Mashriq by Republicans and Democrats, all the other bloody wars she's recalled?

Wanted to keep it short

And don't implify Trump shouldn't be dropped from a rooftop.

Trump isn't responsible for Iraq, Syria, Libya, Honduras, etc.

Clinton would not lead to a civil war,

Clinton is done, and it's more that local groups would commit terrorism that would spin into small battles and then into bigger ones.

Trump's done the same

This shows that you were never on the horse. Trump was incredibly positive, talking about how great America will be.

Are you out of your fucking mind?

You said xenophobia got Trump elected. Don't just go saying everything I said is BS, you little shit, actually give a god-damn reason why you believe it was xenophobia that got Trump elected.

most important abolish the right for citizens of carrying a weapon

Molon Labe

I agree with that. But this issue doesnt belongs into a presidential election, in my opinion. Btw. there is an easy way to fix it, which nobody likes to hear: end police corruption by charging policemen for their crimes. Get rid off Darwinism and raise social standards and most important abolish the right for citizens of carrying a weapon.

Get rid of Darwinism?

Charge policemen for their crimes?

ABOLISH THE RIGHT TO CARRY A WEAPON?

Problem with 1: I don't see what that will do.

Problem with 2: Frankly, if we are going to go so far as to start arresting police officers, we might as well just have police no longer use guns and be limited to carrying tasers.

Problem with 3: This is what Hitler and what many mass-murdering dictators did before committing mass-murder. What a wonderful idea.

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Problem with 2: Frankly, if we are going to go so far as to start arresting police officers, we might as well just have police no longer use guns and be limited to carrying tasers.

Law and Order means no one is above the law

Yuno Gasai, Im not sure if you are trolling or just bull-shiting ...
anyways, Im out of this political asylum. You guys can continue arguing - but that wont change anything except your mood perhaps ...

what America did was not elect a known criminal.

barely.

We also managed to maybe save our country from going completely to shit in the next 4 years. It will probably happen later.

Typical Lefty:

"Hello, by the way you can't say anything to me because I'll get offended because I'm a transvestite.

The reason why Hillary lost was because black people are mysogynistic and racist and I don't care if that is diabolical. It can't be because I'm a social justice campaigner.

Death to the Jews, love the EU <3."

# leader of the west
# democracy sucks
# eugenics rule
# more alcohol

The Kargil war was between forces smaller than brigades in a small mountainous area. It is not the vast rolling steppes of West Russia, where it would be easy for a force to keep going after winning a battle.

and so, what's to say that it's anything thisway in Russia, even if a war would begin?

And as far as I know, Bush 'invaded' with Pakistan's approval.

In short, no. There's propaganda in schools against American invaders and work together minimally against the Islaamists; naturally 4/10 Pakis believe that they're at war with America, and Pakistan-USA relations are awful.

Trump isn't responsible for Iraq, Syria, Libya, Honduras, etc.

and Hitler wasn't responsible at all for the First World War.

it's more that local groups would commit terrorism that would spin into small battles and then into bigger ones.

you really don't realise the stability of USA, it's almost unbeatable. Meantime in Russia although there's a good 20% against Pootin, there's not going to be anything there at all. Riots, maybe, "battles" no.

Problem with 3: This is what Hitler and what many mass-murdering dictators did before committing mass-murder. What a wonderful idea.

pardon me, my future victims, for breathing

we might as well just have police no longer use guns and be limited to carrying tasers.

That's basically what they do in Finland.

ABOLISH THE RIGHT TO CARRY A WEAPON?

1. noone wants to ban knives, I think you mean firearms
2. you believe that mad and proved-to-be-violent folk should get guns? I don't

and so, what's to say that it's anything thisway in Russia, even if a war would begin?

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In short, no

Does the Pakistani gov not approve?

Hitler wasn't responsible at all for the First World War.

You've fallen off the horse

you really don't realise the stability of USA

I'm the one that lives here, don't lecture me about the stability of a country you've never been to and are half-way around the world from.

pardon me, my future victims, for breathing

Disarming a populace makes it much easier to fight and control

2. you believe that mad and proved-to-be-violent folk should get guns? I don't

Madness is over diagnosed

If people are living in America illegally, they should not be here. They take away jobs for US born and American citizens, they should become legal resident

This election less than 50% of Americans voted, least in the nation. If Hillary became president it would be the same damn Obama and not doing anything, letting illegal people in, taking jobs, giving tax money for people to buy cigarettes same America.

It is time for a change. Hopefully Trump will lead it, and it will be good. Trump won't run again in 2020, I think he doesn't know how hard being president is.

Rather than thinking bad like the media, think positive.(Unless you're living here illegally)

Maybe our economy can go up greatly, and inner cities and corrupt states like Illinois and California can boost theirs. Im ready for a change, and it happened. Now sit back and see what happens, he doesn't have as much power as people think he does, he has to get all the congress, house of reps, senates, judges etc. to approve laws and such, which they may/may not do.

Just wait

This is it. Some of Trump's policy is reasonable. What I can't stand is the American electorate was coaxed into voting for him because they feared they were "losing their country" because of his incendiary xenophobic rhetoric (Hitler, Mussolini, Imperial Japan did the same).

I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but the thing people feared was Hillary Clinton being president, not entire ethnicities. Trump and Clinton were the two most hated candidates in any US election, and this "vote the lesser of two evils" mentality is what led to Trump's election, not your generalizing idea that the White population in the Rust Belt is a group of racists and sexists.

I agree with that. But this issue doesnt belongs into a presidential election, in my opinion. Btw. there is an easy way to fix it, which nobody likes to hear: end police corruption by charging policemen for their crimes. Get rid off Darwinism and raise social standards and most important abolish the right for citizens of carrying a weapon.

1) Yes, it does belong in a presidential election. Inner cities have been shit-tier for a long time. This is the case because nobody from the higher levels have thrown a rope down so the inner cities can climb out of the shit-tier; that, or the inner cities have outright denied any help offered to them, which is unlikely. Chicago isn't cleaning itself up; Detroit isn't cleaning itself up; LA isn't cleaning itself up. when do you think they will?

2) Are you out of your mind? Where is Darwinism in US society? How will anyone go about abolishing the right for citizens to carry weapons? How many criminals in the INNER CITIES do you think will follow this rule, or how many will be helped by this rule? How will the bad cops be charged? How will social standards be raised in the inner cities if we let it be a communal issue?

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