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Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 00:08:28


Krzysztof 
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I would like to invite you to Rotating Template Ladder. The general idea is probably well known, but to be clear - we play every template for some time, then change it to another, but previous games still influence rating.
Webpage probably looks quite crude(it will be improved later, with player's game history and rating history), but ladder is fully functional and it could start even now.

- Access:
for players with level 43 or grandfathered membership.
(CLOT games can be created only for players who can created game with the same settings by their own)

- Pace:
Games will be created in SeasonalLadder style - new games every few days, so all players should get same(or at least similar) number of games for every template.
Currently it's set for 6 games per template - if it's too many, you can just leave ladder for game's creation day and rejoin after it.

- Starting template:
Guiroma with randomized bonusus

- Expiration time:
5 months, players are not ranked until finishing at least 10 games

- Vacations:
allowed, but you have to leave ladder manually, otherwise you will get game, and after not joining in proper time you will be considered booted.


Differences between CLOT and warlight's ladders

1. Vote to end possible: if players vote to end, the game will be treated as a draw, but both players rating will suffer 20 points penalty.
2. No force join: If player doesn't join within expected time, he will be considered booted and his opponent will be awarded a win. Ofc. this only affects ladder ratings, not warlight stats(game will be deleted). Games abandoned by both players are treated the same way as voted to end.
3. Possibility of decline games: players can decline games, but they can change their mind before join deadline - CLOT wont' delete this game earlier anyway.
4. No 200% points - sorry ;)
5. Games are checked about every 4 hours, so it may take a while before your game appears on website or rating updated.
6. If player get booted (or doesn't join in proper time), he will be removed from ladder. He can rejoin it at any time later.
7. If you blacklist me, you will be removed from ladder.




Link for page:
http://plemiona.hostingasp.pl/RotatingTemplateLadderClotPage.aspx?ClotId=21

Edited 12/7/2013 10:20:21
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 00:18:15


nich 
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Awesome work!

I think 3 day boot would be better, since that would be consistent with players other games and I don't imagine it would slow down games very much. Anyhow, I'll still play if you decide on 2 day.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 01:38:27


Kenny • apex 
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3 day is what I'm used to, if you do 2 day I'm going to get confused and not time out my games properly. I imagine others will have the same issues. Other than that, I'm looking forward to this. :)

Edited 12/4/2013 01:39:29
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 02:02:12


ps 
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cool!
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 02:29:35


Master Miyagi • apex 
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im in! Btw ps what ever happened to the Ancient Greece Clot?!?

Edit: What template to start?

Edited 12/4/2013 02:31:48
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 02:58:17


ā™ˆ§IRIÜSā™ˆ 
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Count me in :)
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 05:18:43


Pushover 
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I will join if the boot is set to 3 day.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 06:30:59


Blortis 
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I would like to join.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 08:08:12


[WM] Gnuffone 
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make 2 days boot will afraid a lot to player to join.
6 month take too long imho. make 3/4 is better maybe. But be sure, to make a general ranking, and 1 for each template IF you can.
i think all player that play season with randomize bonus, would like to play it again, great idea. For start, maybe is better pick "classic template", so a lot of player join. Then, after 1/2 month, you can start with unclassic tempalte. (people will still to play anyway likely).
Vacation: allowed ofc. with xmas Holiday so near, i think is a MUST.
and about games for month, i think best idea is, let to anyone to pick how many games want play. maybe in a range from 3 to 10....
ofc i'm in!
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 12:06:20


Timinator • apex 
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most people are used to 3d boot.
i'm in if you make it 3d
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 12:42:24


[WM] Gnuffone 
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http://poll.pollcode.com/1845876
let's vote.
krzychu say he want use randomize bonus, so just decide if we want ME or another map. let's vote.

Edited 12/4/2013 12:45:44
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 14:43:34


ps 
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Miyagi: when Gui changed the map it screwed with the template that was being used on the CLOT, i ended up closing that CLOT since it was taking maintenance time i couldn't afford at the time, the sourcecode is online if anyone wants to set it up again. I would need to do some changes to the codebase to make it more live on it's own before putting it back online, as it is it takes some manual maintenance which i don't have time/patience to handle atm. The template that was last used on that CLOT was id 305181, don't remember if it had been re-customized to make sense out of Gui's latest map alterations or not, might be crap as it is.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 18:34:18


ChrisCMU 
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I like randomized bonus style. As far as other templates, you should use the WSOW as a guide.

Also, I think it should rotate every month to a new template. There are always new interesting maps/formats and if you only do it every 3-4 months you will never get to all of them.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 18:57:16


[WM] Gnuffone 
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when i say 3/4 month, i was speaking about expiring game ;)
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 19:09:34


his balls. 
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I'll play.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 20:27:52


NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex 
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I'm in.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 20:34:40


ChrisCMU 
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Why haven't you guys just joined? There are 10 of us already in there.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/4/2013 21:24:46

Dom365 
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Chris, check the next page! ;)
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 01:02:47

Qi 
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Interesting.

ps smells like rotten toufu.

Edited 12/8/2013 05:22:21
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 01:14:50


Krzysztof 
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Looks like no one, besides me, like 2 days boot. 3 days then.

Vacations - no reason to disable it, but there is one big "BUT". I can't check if player is on vacation, so i can't prevent CLOT from giving new games. So, player have to leave ladder and rejoin it later. The same situation apply to warlight ladders, but the difference is, that you can't enable vacation if you are still in any standard ladder. And CLOT ofc. can't work like that. So it's up for player to leave ladder - if he fail to do it, he will eventually get new game. And then, after join deadline passes, he will be considered booted.


and about games for month, i think best idea is, let to anyone to pick how many games want play. maybe in a range from 3 to 10....

Not possible at this moment, don't want to mess and screw something in scheduling mechanism at the very beginning.


i think all player that play season with randomize bonus, would like to play it again, great idea. For start, maybe is better pick "classic template", so a lot of player join. Then, after 1/2 month, you can start with unclassic tempalte. (people will still to play anyway likely).

Well, i was thinking we can shortened 1st season a bit and end it 30th november(to synchronize with calendar months) anyway.


http://poll.pollcode.com/1845876
let's vote.

Oh, let it be then
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 01:41:00


Master Miyagi • apex 
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No middle earth. The whole reason for another ladder is to get away from the classic middle earth. If its middle earth i will likely leave. But thats just me
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 05:38:05


Pushover 
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Since boot is set to 3 day I would definitely like to join.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 05:51:13


ChrisCMU 
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I agree with miyagi. Why bother with 1v1 strat, the point is to do lots of formats.

Also to gnuff there is no way to set game max (you can probably do anything with enough programming, i guess). It just matches up people not in games currently
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 08:37:09


Niko 
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I can't join. :/

Server Error in '/' Application.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 09:34:25


{rp} General Mac 
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Brilliant!
i would join if 3 day boot and NO MED EARTH !!!
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 10:31:46


Krzysztof 
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I can't join. :/
Server Error in '/' Application.


yup, my bad - will be back on evening (CET)
Edit: should work now

Edited 12/5/2013 11:41:54
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 11:58:29


ps 
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Gui: lol! dude, i don't care for any clot drama, chill.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 12:03:47


myhandisonfire 
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Gui messed it up, period. It was an excellent clot, popular and fun.
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 12:37:07

Qi 
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yep. myhand is absolutely right.

Edited 12/8/2013 05:21:32
Rotating Template Ladder: 12/5/2013 13:24:00


ps 
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Dude. It ain't rocket science: You did the map change, Fizzer approved the map change, none of you realized it would screw with the template, it did, shit happens, we moved on, i ended up closing the CLOT. What's the drama?

If you got unresolved ego issues i suggest you contact the warlight withdrawal syndrome hotline, you can just dial 555-SODOFF and Pulsey will be there for you.
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