So, lets take YOUR last game:

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=5149432

Timinator surrendered in turn 4. But why, why?
Shall i do the same now and denounce you because your opponent prematurely surrendered ?

I really pity you and your jealousy!

in this acse he played mroe than 15... he played the games and waited for the odler ones to expire till eh had a good enough ratign to be #1... the system allows this kind fo exploitation


lol, timi got frustrated at the luck and surrendered :) he would have probably lost anyway as lolo was in a slightly better position to expand

Edited 11/20/2013 20:00:50

Pink, you can stick your biased blah blah right into the best part of you.

Timi and Lolo had an agreement to play a different board. Read the chat.

..and sorry I didnt mention congratulations. That run is still an acheivement.

As said in chat: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5180514

That was the game we played. I won it hands down due to 3v2 expansion turning out into my favor.

In the actual ladder game, Timinator and I played those 4 turns just out of curiosity of what option we would've gone with. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't like the replacement game I had with Timinator. I was in a bad position off of picks that would only work if I were extremely lucky, which is why I don't want to talk about it further.

Did JUPITER and Mannerheim play an outside game? I don't see one in the chat..

Regardless of that 1 game, the other 12 were well done. It's not as bad of an abuse as we've seen other people delay losses to get rank 1, and probably worse stuff. I just don't see another explanation other than JUPITER giving away the game to help Mannerheim. They're clanmates, and it's understandable.

I dont give a damn why Timinator surrendered in turn 4. I d never blame YOU for that. But it looks very much to me you guys are blaming Mannerheim for JUPITERs early surrender. And thats kind of despicable.

Hey guys, Mannerheim didn't deserve to get #1. He should have lost that game, fair and square. But did Oliebol and Beelzebub deserve #1 when they both stalled to get the spot? Didn't Dead piggy drop out of the ladder so Gnuffone could get #1 a while back and surrendered his game with him (granted Gnuffone would have reached #1 by now anyways)? This is not a new thing at all.

Where, in all that I've said do I point the finger and say it's Mannerheim's fault that JUPITER gave him the win, mosquitero? Read before you jump to conclusions.. No one in here is blaming Mannerheim, we're merely pointing out that had JUPITER not given him the win, Mannerheim would be top 10 not 1st. Now could Mannerheim make it to 1st after that? Probably. Could he maintain 1st for a long period of time? I don't know him enough to answer that. I think others probably have a better chance at maintaining rank 1, but it wouldn't be the weirdest thing.

I smell bullshit, and I really hate that. When I was second in ladder, gnuffone offered me to leave the ladder to give me first spot. Guess what? I've refused. So sad GG, so sad.

Lolowut, you seem to be one of the first to "point the finger" in a thread titled "Congrat...ah...no...wtf is that Mannerheim". Your argument "Had Jupiter won this one like he was clearly in position to do so, then Mannerheim wouldn't be rank 1" is pure hypocrisy. There are plenty of ladder games out there that were not won by skill but due to being lucky by players later becoming no 1. This whole thread just demonstrates the emotional shortcomings of those who need to lessen others achievements in order for themselves to feel better.

i agree jupiter was in prime position, that turn he could've taken scand and pulled a trick play to take west russia or hold central russia(depending on mannierhiems move) then turn after that he has brazil and he is home free. Im not even that good and i can see that

Mosquitero, shut up. You only make your clan look bad. I feel that it is not a big deal since it has been done so often in the past. But you continuing to attack the people that think it is a big deal is dumb. People are gonna hate on someone if they are good. Anonymous has a serious right to complain, he could have gotten to #1 in the same fashion if he wanted to. The rest have their opinions and you aren't gonna change them.

Mosquito, why in your second post did you say "Timinator surrendered in turn 4. But why, why?" and in your third post say "I dont give a damn why Timinator surrendered in turn 4". Are you just messing with lolowut (please carry on) or are you flailing around for a defence of the way GG manipulated the ladder.

Are they always so smug? Your 6th pick lead to a loss mannerheim, why do you think it is anything other than terrible?

I think you all are missing the fact that Mannerheim is 21:1 over the ranked sample, not 14:1. He had a loss that expired today, so he rejoined the ladder to leapfrog everyone. At 20:2, he'd still have an impressive record and be easily ranked #1.

@JSA: You have an urgent need to feel like God. I realized that in several other threads where your latent megalomania became visible. Go on like this, make my day :D. This thread has nothing to do with people that THINK, especially not the owner of this thread or you.

Thx TeddyFSB, i began to think i m all alone here. Believe me, i know about that 21:1 ;-).

'Your argument "Had Jupiter won this one like he was clearly in position to do so, then Mannerheim wouldn't be rank 1" is pure hypocrisy. There are plenty of ladder games out there that were not won by skill but due to being lucky by players later becoming no 1. '

How am I a hypocrite if I haven't become rank 1 off of doing such acts? How am I being emotional when I've only attacked your arguments with logic, and you've only attacked me with emotion?

Teddy, I'm not so sure that he would. Jupiter has sub 1900 rating, that would drop Mannerheim to close to 2100, I'd say. I don't know for sure whether he'd be first or second.

Mosquitero, if someone says something rude to me, I answer back in a similar manner. Is it wrong? Yes, I should not do this, but I make mistakes. But I use the forums for good as much as possible and I very rarely start arguments with people on them.

You only talk on the forums when someone says anything negative at all about [GG] and then you bite their throat off. You don't even use the forums anytime other than to be hostile. That's why I'm telling you to back off. Take lessons from Mannerheim. I am trying to do so myself. He's very calm on the forums and never even gets into arguments.

In a stroke of genius you say it yourself, JSA: "People are gonna hate on someone if they are good". And sadly this is all this thread is about. No further comment on my part.

Edited 11/20/2013 23:29:31

@mosquitero how many illegal drugs have you consumed in the past few hours? cause it seems like your arguments are invalid. Or you may just be stupid idk. Anyways i think Mannerheim is a good player, with that loss though i would have to disagree with you teddy i think that loss puts him down to 2100 and 3rd or 4th place. Maybe after 2-3 more wins he moves up to 1st but not right away.. Just my opinion