Threatening to pull a gun and threatening while a gun is pulled are two different things.

A thousand waiting to be pulled guns is worse than one pulled gun

I don't mean no offence, but you aren't telling me you'd like sicilianu to rule over you than the USA government?

I'm saying that muggers rob way less than governments

Samsung hires "private police" and other mercs

Private police =/= Mercenaries

Let's see, if private police take money from the folk, why would they give it to samsung? If they offer to pay them, well they already have pay and the money samsung could get from extortion is apparently either enough to make the private police keep it or not enough to justify paying for it in the first place, because Samsung would have to literally pay for money. Either way, both the private police take a huge hit in sales (do you want Korean warlords spying on you?) and both are expending huge amounts of money doing things they have never done before and are inefficient at.

"A thousand waiting to be pulled guns is worse than one pulled gun"
- Joseph Stalin, 1949

A thousand waiting to be pulled guns is worse than one pulled gun

is it? a bump on the road won't kill you if a safety is on the gun. Having a gun pulled on you is much worse psychologically especially without warning.

I'm saying that muggers rob way less than governments

Muggers in Choson rob more than government, there are no taxes in Choson, go move to your ancap paradise mmm

Let's see, if private police take money from the folk, why would they give it to samsung?

Cashiers take money from folk, too. They don't keep it for themselves, but how much money they get is usually reflected in how much they're paid. Furthermore, who's to say it will go through the mercs at all, and not directly billed to Samsung? Businesses aren't dumb.

Furthermore, taking taxes is not really intrinsic to government. Many tiny Caribbean countries get enough money from tourism that they have less than 1% income tax. Imperceptibly low.

And again, the frain arises, is it stealing when it's something not guaranteed to you nor something you ever had?

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Pfffft. "Folk" won't pay for jack squat. I live in a private subdivision where the government has no obligation to maintain the road, and thus the maintence fund only comes from those who live out here. Guess what? Less than half actually pay into it, despite everyone needing the road. The road promptly goes to crap due to slouches who won't pay even when the need becomes desperate.

Unless you can't use the road, there's not a lot of need to renovate it. It's a area of flat gravel or dirt. Especially when it's on a small neighborhood level, there's little need to do it.

Our only choices are to either form a sub-division organization to force payments, thus getting sued because "Tyranny! MUH MONIES!", or to sit around while the road gets worse and worse.

If it gets truly so bad that you can't use it, there's no real reason no one wouldn't pay for it.

AnCap on a small scale, and it fails quite tremendously.

Government on any scale has proven to be quite a failure

is it? a bump on the road won't kill you if a safety is on the gun. Having a gun pulled on you is much worse psychologically especially without warning.

One mugger with a gun might kill one person if the situation gets bad enough. If the government starts shooting, they can kill as many folk as they want.

Muggers in Choson rob more than government, there are no taxes in Choson, go move to your ancap paradise mmm

Eritrea has a great big government, go back to your paradise mmmm

Cashiers take money from folk, too. They don't keep it for themselves, but how much money they get is usually reflected in how much they're paid. Furthermore, who's to say it will go through the mercs at all, and not directly billed to Samsung? Businesses aren't dumb.

Cashiers don't have the power to screw off their employers and get off scot free and don't benefit from taking all the money and keeping the place as their own business, as they can only take all the money once.

Furthermore, who's to say it will go through the mercs at all, and not directly billed to Samsung? Businesses aren't dumb.

Mmm, the people will of course reject (would you hand over thousands of dollars to a cell phone company with no cause except them asking?), and the rouge police will go house to house getting money. They'll of course have to fight actual police and the citizens, spend lots of money on bullets and fuel, and once they have it, why give it to samsung? Your friends died for them to get your money? Faff that, keep it.

Furthermore, taking taxes is not really intrinsic to government. Many tiny Caribbean countries get enough money from tourism that they have less than 1% income tax. Imperceptibly low.

Mmm, a government that doesn't take taxes and just has a monopoly over a service might seem good, but if they don't have competitors, how do you keep them from jacking up the price on whatever they sell.

And again, the frain arises, is it stealing when it's something not guaranteed to you nor something you ever had?

Depends if you think it's guaranteed to you by the employer or if they're guaranteeing it to the government. Mmm, this is the best criticism of taxation is theft I've seen in a while.

Just keep in mind anarchism has never manifested in the real world and it never will,

https://theruleoffreedom.wordpress.com/2012/06/11/has-anarchy-existed-before/

More AnCap shitposting

"Omg, I can't beat his argument, so I'll just cry and say it'll never happen so I don't need to rebut him and I win!"

>muh blog is a source

Typical 17 yr old AnCap shitposting

>I don't need to ever adress what my opponents say and I win!

Typical nazi bullshit. You're the biggest crybaby on the damn site, and use fallacious logic and insults to deflect all the arguments presented towards you, and let me guess, this is all "muh basless characatar attacks!" and you're perfect.

? It's one of the easiest to rebut questions

Just because you type some bullshit doesn't mean you have rebutted anything. This is one of the easiest ways to debunk your whole ideology. You pretend my question is the strawman 'who will lay pavement' but we both know that's not all that is involved in building roads. The government decides where to build them and how they are paid for. Two things you didn't address.

I don't want to live in your society with the vague promise that there will be construction companies capable of building roads. That doesn't guarantee there will be a road in front of my house, nor a road from my house to Canada. Nor does it tell me the cost. Hypothetically speaking all that would exist if everybody in society was willing to pay for roads. In reality there would be a massive free rider problem. Lots of people saying 'I don't want to pay for roads, I never leave my house' or 'I don't want to pay for roads in Arkansas when I live in Alaska' etc. That would result in a lot less money available to pay those private construction companies and it will result in a lot fewer roads.

So why don't you try to spin some better bullshit. Who will build the roads?

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Just because you type some bullshit doesn't mean you have rebutted anything. This is one of the easiest ways to debunk your whole ideology. You pretend my question is the strawman 'who will lay pavement' but we both know that's not all that is involved in building roads. The government decides where to build them and how they are paid for. Two things you didn't address

Private businesses will request a road is layed down, a construction company will plan with them to lay one down, they pay for it, the road is maintained either by toll booths or the businesses.

The title of this is misleading. The news sources are known to use false stuff frequently. Further reading should reveal that what this title claims is not the case.

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^^Let's hope Kim Jong Un won't hear that. If he does, he will be very angry with you for questioning his authority. He might send a death squad after you.

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^^Are you sure? A mistake might cost you your life.

Is Moggy circumcized is all I want to know.

Private businesses will request a road is layed down, a construction company will plan with them to lay one down, they pay for it, the road is maintained either by toll booths or the businesses.

You can't handle complex arguments huh? Ok, let me make it real simple for you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem

Physically remove Anarchists and AnCaps

You can't handle complex arguments huh? Ok, let me make it real simple for you:

"Muh ideaz r complecs cuz i say so!"

Just because you type some bullshit doesn't mean you have rebutted anything. This is one of the easiest ways to debunk your whole ideology. You pretend my question is the strawman 'who will lay pavement' but we both know that's not all that is involved in building roads. The government decides where to build them and how they are paid for. Two things you didn't address.

Two things I addressed in my last reply to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem

I don't want to live in your society with the vague promise that there will be construction companies capable of building roads. That doesn't guarantee there will be a road in front of my house, nor a road from my house to Canada. Nor does it tell me the cost. Hypothetically speaking all that would exist if everybody in society was willing to pay for roads. In reality there would be a massive free rider problem. Lots of people saying 'I don't want to pay for roads, I never leave my house' or 'I don't want to pay for roads in Arkansas when I live in Alaska' etc. That would result in a lot less money available to pay those private construction companies and it will result in a lot fewer roads.

No one would pay for the roads two former states away; that's completely ridiculous. Especially for folk in Alaska. Now if you need a road built between one town in Alaska and one town in the Yukon, it's a pretty simple and local effort and you can get businesses to fund it because that's more money in the long term because of more commerce. That town in the Yukon can pay for the next road(through private businesses), down to the next town, with tollways being used to maintain the areas of road inbetween.

This shouldn't be a hard concept to get, especially when private roads were being made in the US during the revolution, and thousands of private roads already exist, but it seems like private police, some folk don't see what's right in front of them and pretend like it's fantasy.

No one would pay for the roads two former states away; that's completely ridiculous.

You understand your own ideology so poorly you're forcing me to defend it. You don't know that nobody would pay for those roads, they might.

The problem is they might not. You're pretending that's a good thing but it's a bad thing. There would probably be few roads, because of the free rider problem which you still have not addressed.

I have come to the conclusion that you are a noob anarcho-capitalist who doesn't even understand the basics yet. You should go learn those before trying to argue in favor of the ideology. You might also want to understand the basics before deciding you're an anarcho-capitalists.

You understand your own ideology so poorly you're forcing me to defend it. You don't know that nobody would pay for those roads, they might.

Yeah they might, if they're altruistic, but I wouldn't count on it.

The problem is they might not. You're pretending that's a good thing but it's a bad thing. There would probably be few roads, because of the free rider problem which you still have not addressed.

Businesses would pay for roads, as they need commerce to sustain themselves. The free rider problem isn't really here; the businesses are paying for the roads so folk can come into their area to buy and sell. Maybe in neighborhoods, but of course social pressure can be applied pretty effictively, especially since communities will be more dependent on themselves for certain things.

I have come to the conclusion that you are a noob anarcho-capitalist who doesn't even understand the basics yet. You should go learn those before trying to argue in favor of the ideology. You might also want to understand the basics before deciding you're an anarcho-capitalists.

So because I said that folk are likely not to be so altruistic to pay for random roads in Arkansas, I don't understand my own ideology?