What EU nations have done by allowing in so many refugees is really stupid, but stop acting like all of them are there to burn Europe to the ground.

How many times I have to say „NOT ALL“ so you'll understand it?

Maybe Wolves as I'm pretty sure that they will currently accept pretty much anyone and are a friendly community. It was a bit harder to get in when Knyte was there but now should be easier.

Anyway, no matter the clan you choose, you need to work hard to make them accept you. You shouldn't just expect them to do everything for you. This includes witholding views you have if you believe that it will upset people more than it will make them like you or invoke friendly discussion.
If I were to believe everything in this thread so far, talking about Nazis won't do either of these.

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I thought about wolves, but as the one that is said to contact in their clan page isn't seen in the last 13 days I don't know who to mail. Do you know?

https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4020218904

This guy will most likely respond to you pretty quickly about wolves.

Edit: Someone said wolves are dead.

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ok kid all i am going to say is that 99.9% of these people that come over are in need in a new life as there country is war torn and they need somewhere to go. so if you want to hate just join a cult and waste your life

Look, it doesn't make sense that someone who doesn't do anything should recieve more money than our retirees! What would you do if they have gone to Australia? You would've said „Come, take my home, you deserve this as you don't work or anything“ or you would've started swearing at them?

If they need somewhere to go,there are camps for them! Can't you understand!? EU makes camps and they don't want to stay in them!

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I agree that most refugees are innocent people trying to flee war-torn countries. But the thing is, most of these migrants are only interested in going to the richest of the EU countries and when they go there, a lot of them act like disappointed tourists. These refugees deserve safety but they are not appreciative of these refugee camps that a lot of the world governments are providing, in my opinion, a lot of them seem to be opportunists. I think it would be better if we decreased immigration and instead increased foreign aid to stop the problem at the source.

to be honest, Bayern may have a bit of an aggressive opinion on immigrants, but you can't persecute someone for having an opinion and expressing it

I agree that most refugees are innocent people trying to flee war-torn countries. But the thing is, most of these migrants are only interested in going to the richest of the EU countries and when they go there, a lot of them act like disappointed tourists. These refugees deserve safety but they are not appreciative of these refugee camps that a lot of the world governments are providing, in my opinion, a lot of them seem to be opportunists. I think it would be better if we decreased immigration and instead increased foreign aid to stop the problem at the source.

Thats exactly what I meant to mean!! Everyone who wants SAFETY should just stay in the camps, as all of the camps are safe. If they're not going to stay in the camps, and go somewhere many people can't, they shouldn't be accepted in Europe!

The wolves aren't willing to take an immigrant. Goddam yogurt goons are going to take over the world! In a few years, we all will have to put -gorod suffix in our names!!!

"An immigrant wants better life."

Everyone wants a better life. Trying to fulfill that is not a crime. What it is, is admirable.

Unless you live in Africa you either are an immigrant, or descended from Immigrants, to look down upon modern Immigrants and act as if you're better than them because your family emigrated before theirs is pure fucking lunacy.

"but you can't persecute someone for having an opinion and expressing it"

No. You absolutely can, and should persecute bigotry.

You're basically suggesting that if I like molesting children and posting daily reports of it on the internet that none o the readers should say anything negative about my actions.

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Look,if they have ID and want to go to Germany to work,they're welcome. But if they don't have an ID and want to go to Germany just to take money for nothing,they should just stay in there country,whatever it is!

MasterOfWarZone, there is a difference between having a political opinion and committing rape. Having opinions is ok, molesting children is not ok. Understand the difference?

MasterOfShitZone, you should really stop commenting on this thread. I already understood you're supporting the terrorists.

Okay, personally, I don't like to take a stand on an issue of morality, rightness, and such, because a lot of that are based on opinions and opinions are inherently subjective. But, in my opinion, there's nothing wrong with expressing an opinion. As someone who lives in a country with a fairly limited freedom of expression, or at least a country where there exists an atmosphere of fear surrounding free expression, I've seen what happens when people don't openly discuss important but contentious issues. It engenders misunderstanding and prejudice, and both of those are huge obstructions to solving any kind of social problem.

Ultimately, though, a lot of what people take offense to first is not an idea itself, but the way it is conveyed. I wasn't there to personally witness the incident which led to this thread being created, but from what I understand Bayern used a fair amount of slurs and offensive language in expressing his opinion. I'm not here to say whether the use of such language is inherently right or wrong, but it's a fact that, most of the time, if you use it you will turn people away from your argument and your stand. In the worst case scenario, you could obscure your point completely. It also makes you seem more immature, which is bad if you want to convince people to agree with you. I didn't really understand exactly what his point was until francisco cleared it up for me, which should be an indication of how much disagreeable language can mar what you're trying to say.

TL;DR, having an opinion is fine. But if you want people to agree with you, or if you want them to at least understand your point of view even if they don't agree, using moderated and unoffensive language is key. And never lose your cool.

The incident that caused this thread to be created is that I got kicked because of one comment.

While one comment !CAN NOT! change relationships!

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Well, I'm no master of relationships, but kicking you out is a major decision. It's an indication of how offended they were by what you said. The worst kind of comments can ruin relationships, even if that comment is short or made in the heat of the moment.

From what I read on the first page of this thread, it's a matter of how you hold yourself and the image you convey. And I can guarantee you that no one will be able to call you racist or immature if you stay calm and cool, use moderated language, and back up every point you make with cold, hard logic and/or evidence.

"MasterOfWarZone, there is a difference between having a political opinion and committing rape. Having opinions is ok, molesting children is not ok. Understand the difference?"

No, there really isn't a difference when enforcing your political views ruins peoples lives as much as rape does.

His comments are hate speech.

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The usurper, I just said: „Yes I'm a racist because all the monkeys coming to europe. If they're from Africa or Syria, they must stay in there!!!“

In which, „Yes I'm a racist“ means I hate the ones that come to Europe and want money for doing nothing or the ones that come to Europe and make attacks, or the ones that pass the borders without an ID. Also, as I made some things for FCC, this is another reason for NOT-KICKING!

I don't know, MasterOfWarZone, how can't you understand that they come here and ruin THE REAL people lives!

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