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Defeating ISIS: 8/4/2016 08:19:02

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ISIS acts like an AI(in Warlight), we just have to think like we are playing Warlight against an AI
Defeating ISIS: 8/4/2016 08:21:17


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Because i am just messing around, Adrijan is serious and Fiztler doesn't like it. That's the reason my posts are not deleted, i guess.
Defeating ISIS: 8/4/2016 10:51:06


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Anyway, this made me laugh:
Also, since you're for overthrowing a government when it uses chemical weapons, when are you going to march on Washington because of depleted uranium bombs and rounds?

Allow me to point out the logical fallacies here:
1. DU is not fissile material. Bombs and rounds made with it are do not use nuclear energy.
2. The US government does not use DU on it's own people.
3. Because DU is not very radioactive (alpha radiation ain't gonna kill you), it is not poisonous enough to compare with chemical weapons.
Defeating ISIS: 8/4/2016 11:00:04


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Violence only begets more violence

Ever heard of Neville Chamberlain?
Defeating ISIS: 8/4/2016 14:35:33


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1. DU is not fissile material. Bombs and rounds made with it are do not use nuclear energy.

It poisons folk.

2. The US government does not use DU on it's own people.

Folk are folk; using it on any civilian is the same as using it on the ones you tax.

3. Because DU is not very radioactive (alpha radiation ain't gonna kill you), it is not poisonous enough to compare with chemical weapons.

It caused birth defects:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/326547


Ever heard of Neville Chamberlain?


Ever heard of the Franco-Prussian war? It caused WW1. Ever heard of that? Caused WW2.
Defeating ISIS: 8/4/2016 20:09:37


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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It does not poison folk. If you had birth defects, it was probably due to the dope you mother had smoked when you were conceived.

Using DU on other countries is different to using it on your own people.

Neville Chamberlain didn't cause WW2. He just fucked up with his policy of inaction.
Defeating ISIS: 8/4/2016 20:16:22


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i tink kanada an usa shood merge an conker da hole 3rd werld !!
Defeating ISIS: 8/4/2016 20:20:52


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Why do people harp about USA having a gigantic military and then say "we need a bunch of French pussies to help us out!"? Seriously, stop with the coalitions. Sure, you need some airbases in the region, but European/NATO/UN help is not necessary at all.
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 00:01:47


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In all seriousness, the US, Canada, France, and the UK have some of the most, if not the, best equipped and trained special forces, so they can simply just cut the head off of the snake. Create the internal power struggle, and ISIS collapses. Perhaps into a dozen organizations, perhaps into a few, or maybe even none. In reality, though, ISIS is something that needs to be kills fast. Once ISIS is collapsed, maybe the US might have a non-fuckwad president for the first time in the 2000's that will actually benefit the country.
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 00:09:59


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It does not poison folk. If you had birth defects, it was probably due to the dope you mother had smoked when you were conceived.

According to Iraqi government statistics, the rate of cancer in the country has skyrocketed from 40 per 100,000 people prior to the First Gulf War in 1991, to 800 per 100,000 in 1995, to at least 1,600 per 100,000 in 2005.


For large sectors of the Iraqi population, American intervention has led to sharp spikes in the rates of congenital birth defects, premature births, miscarriages and leukemia cases.


While the depleted uranium presents little to no risk to health via radiation due to its relatively weak radioactivity, direct internal contact with the heavy metal can have chemical toxicity effects on the nervous system, liver, heart and kidneys, with DNA mutations and RNA transcription errors being reported in the case of depleted uranium dust being absorbed in vitro.


Using DU on other countries is different to using it on your own people.

No, it isn't. Folk are folk.

Neville Chamberlain didn't cause WW2. He just fucked up with his policy of inaction.

But WW1 was a major reason for WW2. In particular, wants for German revenge.
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 00:15:33


[WOLF] Akan Apire
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Keep in mind that America wouldn't be in the Middle East if we never had shit leaders with nothing on their mind but profits.
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 00:32:38


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Keep in mind that America wouldn't be in the Middle East if we never had shit leaders with nothing on their mind but profits.

This started because the CIA tricked Eisenhower into thinking that a communist takeover was imminent in Iran. Then the CIA staged a coup to overthrow a democratically elected leader in Iran. After that, the CIA started to have a large sway on foreign policy and politics in general which was acknowledged by many presidents and other politicians.

But yes, you are pretty right.
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 01:28:09


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I support the current policy of no boots on ground. The Arabs need to get their shit together while we still care enough to bomb ISIS.


Strategically, ISIS does not have a good position. They basically own a desert that can be attacked from any side at any time. An Arab coalition led by an actually talented commander instead of some rich Saudi would win with US air support. Jordan and Saudi and Turkey are basically the only major Arab nations in that area to have post Soviet weapons and, luckily enough, they all share borders with the conflict. Problem is, they are used to sucking American tits and fighting with each other over Israel and other random crap that isn't worth a donkey infested with AIDS.

Edited 8/5/2016 01:36:36
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 02:00:57


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Jordan and Saudi and Turkey are basically basically the only major Arab

Uh, sorry to burst your bubble but Turkey is made up of mostly Turks not Arabs. Just want to say that before you say that in front of a Turkish nationalist and get punched.

Problem is, they are used to sucking American tits and fighting with each other over Israel and other random crap that isn't worth a donkey infested with AIDS.

Turkey's military mostly fights Greece, Kurds, and their own elected leaders.

Edited 8/5/2016 02:01:15
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 11:13:34


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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The moral of the story is, don't get in the way of DU
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 11:15:56


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@MGSB: Not to mention Russian planes.
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 11:45:13


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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Anyway, good topic. ISIS must be dealt with militarily, and with DU.
Defeating ISIS: 8/5/2016 17:46:17


[WOLF] Akan Apire
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@Knyte xD xD

And are we all forgetting Israel? They have hands on some of the latest US military technology. But they are still embroiled in a hypocritical civil struggle/war/clusterfuck with the Palestinians. Because they both enjoy bitching to the UN about "Crimes Against Humanity", but they both commit them daily.

Edited 8/5/2016 17:47:38
Defeating ISIS: 8/6/2016 03:18:54


[TNW] Commander Vimes
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Because the UN fucked them over with "Zionism is Racism". And the Palestinians are the aggressors in this case, if you look up all the wars in the past, Palestine's allies started them. Israel was way more successful than they should have been, and they aren't perfect, but they are actually trying to deal with the Palestinians a little bit. And they don't cut journalists' heads off and release videos of it. The Gaza strip is pretty much controlled by terrorists, and Israel is giving as much as it gets in terms of bombs etc. They are trying to deal with the West Bank.
Don't forget, they are a Jewish country in the midst of all these Muslim ones. That would make anyone edgy.

(Sorry for the terrible grammar)
Defeating ISIS: 8/6/2016 03:30:52


Major General Smedley Butler
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Uh there was a civil war/insurgency beforehand resulting in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by the Israelis.

Edited 8/6/2016 03:32:38
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