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2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 05:50:22


Doushibag 
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Seeing Duke whine/acknowledge his loss of 1st place on the team ladder got me curious as to how people are doing relative to their individual 1v1 ladder performance and how the numbers stack up.

The X's mean the person is currently not on the ladder and unranked, but has a rating.
The ?'s mean the person is not on the ladder and does not have a rating.

Rank..Team Players................................Rating.1v1 Ranks...1v1 Ratings......Relative Performance
1....Blue Precision and Eitz.......................1896...016=07+09...3878=1953+1925...48.9%=1896/3878
2....Ruthless and Duke............................1868...021=17+04...3814=1804+2010...49.0%=1868/3814
3....Ragingpikey and NuckLuck..................1851...025=20+05...3742=1740+2002...49.5%=1851/3742
4....FBG-Dragons and FBG - Gaspumper......1810...XXX=XX+XX...3739=1854+1885...48.4%=1810/3739
5....TeddyFSB and samurai.......................1707...025=12+13...3735=1869+1866...45.7%=1707/3735
6....Alcarmacil and MathWolf.....................1698...066=40+22...3203=1470+1733...53.0%=1698/3203
7....Mike and Tor....................................1675...???=??+37...????=????+1494.....??.?%=1675/????
8....[WM] Red and [WM] Dazed & Insane.....1653...054=31+23...3285=1558+1727...50.3%=1653/3285
9....Guderian and CuChulainn.....................1454...???=??+45...????=????+1404.....??.?%=1454/????
10...thekohser and ТиТо...........................1376...072=38+34...3009=1493+1516...45.7%=1376/3009
11...FBG_Tick and FBG-randall146...............1360...XXX=50+XX...2641=1330+1311...51.5%=1360/2641
12...Perrin3088 and crafty35a....................1322...049=21+28...3334=1734+1600...39.7%=1322/3334
13...[REGL] majokun and [REGL] *BLAST*.........1298...119=55+64...2390=1290+1100...54.3%=1298/2390
14...Aerial Assault and FBG - This Guy.........1167...XXX=54+XX...2754=1291+1463...42.4%=1167/2754

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If I insert people into the 1v1 ladder based on their rating this is the result:
The ladder updated while I was doing this and don't feel like updating everything, so this part will be slightly off.

Rank..Team Players................................Rating.1v1 Ranks...1v1 Ratings......Relative Performance
1....Blue Precision and Eitz.......................1896...016=07+09...3878=1953+1925...48.9%=1896/3878
2....Ruthless and Duke............................1868...023=19+04...3814=1804+2010...49.0%=1868/3814
3....Ragingpikey and NuckLuck..................1851...027=22+05...3742=1740+2002...49.5%=1851/3742
4....FBG-Dragons and FBG - Gaspumper......1810...027=15+12...3739=1854+1885...48.4%=1810/3739
5....TeddyFSB and samurai.......................1707...027=13+14...3735=1869+1866...45.7%=1707/3735
6....Alcarmacil and MathWolf....................1698...066=42+24...3203=1470+1733...53.0%=1698/3203
7....Mike and Tor....................................1675...???=??+39...????=????+1494......??.?%=1675/????
8....[WM] Red and [WM] Dazed & Insane....1653...058=33+25...3285=1558+1727...50.3%=1653/3285
9....Guderian and CuChulainn....................1454...???=??+48...????=????+1404......??.?%=1454/????
10...thekohser and ТиТо..........................1376...076=40+36...3009=1493+1516...45.7%=1376/3009
11...FBG_Tick and FBG-randall146..............1360...109=53+56...2641=1330+1311...51.5%=1360/2641
12...Perrin3088 and crafty35a...................1322...053=23+30...3334=1734+1600...39.7%=1322/3334
13...[REGL] majokun and [REGL] *BLAST*.......1298...127=59+68...2390=1290+1100...54.3%=1298/2390
14...Aerial Assault and FBG - This Guy........1167...101=58+43...2754=1291+1463...42.4%=1167/2754


What I found interesting was that for the top 6 teams on the 2v2 ladder, their rank is accurately predicted by the total of their individual ratings. You could say the % for relative performance is how they did in relation to how you might expect them to do based on their individual ratings. Thought it might act sort of as an indicator for how well the two people do as a team versus individually.

Sorry the tables aren't more readable. Getting information aligned here is a beast and I don't know of a better way to do it. Even with preview it took a lot of effort. Without preview that would have come out jacked all to hell, heavily misaligned.
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 06:05:05

Eitz 
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Those are some crazy stats Doushi, interesting...
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 06:14:28

Fizzer 
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If you put four spaces at the start of each line, it makes aligning data easy:

First column one Column two
Second column one Column two
Third column one Column two
Fourth column one Column two
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 06:18:35

Fizzer 
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I went ahead and aligned it:

Rank Team Players Rating 1v1 Ranks 1v1 Ratings Relative Performance
1 Blue Precision and Eitz 1896 016=07+09 3878=1953+1925 48 9%=1896/3878
2 Ruthless and Duke 1868 021=17+04 3814=1804+2010 49 0%=1868/3814
3 Ragingpikey and NuckLuck 1851 025=20+05 3742=1740+2002 49 5%=1851/3742
4 FBG-Dragons and FBG - Gaspumper 1810 XXX=XX+XX 3739=1854+1885 48 4%=1810/3739
5 TeddyFSB and samurai 1707 025=12+13 3735=1869+1866 45 7%=1707/3735
6 Alcarmacil and MathWolf 1698 066=40+22 3203=1470+1733 53 0%=1698/3203
7 Mike and Tor 1675 ???=??+37 ????=????+1494 ?? ?%=1675/????
8 [WM] Red and [WM] Dazed + Insane 1653 054=31+23 3285=1558+1727 50 3%=1653/3285
9 Guderian and CuChulainn 1454 ???=??+45 ????=????+1404 ?? ?%=1454/????
10 thekohser and ???? 1376 072=38+34 3009=1493+1516 45 7%=1376/3009
11 FBG_Tick and FBG-randall146 1360 XXX=50+XX 2641=1330+1311 51 5%=1360/2641
12 Perrin3088 and crafty35a 1322 049=21+28 3334=1734+1600 39 7%=1322/3334
13 [REGL] majokun and [REGL] BLAST 1298 119=55+64 2390=1290+1100 54 3%=1298/2390
14 Aerial Assault and FBG - This Guy 1167 XXX=54+XX 2754=1291+1463 42 4%=1167/2754

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Rank Team Players Rating 1v1 Ranks 1v1 Ratings Relative Performance
1 Blue Precision and Eitz 1896 016=07+09 3878=1953+1925 48 9%=1896/3878
2 Ruthless and Duke 1868 023=19+04 3814=1804+2010 49 0%=1868/3814
3 Ragingpikey and NuckLuck 1851 027=22+05 3742=1740+2002 49 5%=1851/3742
4 FBG-Dragons and FBG - Gaspumper 1810 027=15+12 3739=1854+1885 48 4%=1810/3739
5 TeddyFSB and samurai 1707 027=13+14 3735=1869+1866 45 7%=1707/3735
6 Alcarmacil and MathWolf 1698 066=42+24 3203=1470+1733 53 0%=1698/3203
7 Mike and Tor 1675 ???=??+39 ????=????+1494 ?? ?%=1675/????
8 [WM] Red and [WM] Dazed + Insane 1653 058=33+25 3285=1558+1727 50 3%=1653/3285
9 Guderian and CuChulainn 1454 ???=??+48 ????=????+1404 ?? ?%=1454/????
10 thekohser and ???? 1376 076=40+36 3009=1493+1516 45 7%=1376/3009
11 FBG_Tick and FBG-randall146 1360 109=53+56 2641=1330+1311 51 5%=1360/2641
12 Perrin3088 and crafty35a 1322 053=23+30 3334=1734+1600 39 7%=1322/3334
13 [REGL] majokun and [REGL] BLAST 1298 127=59+68 2390=1290+1100 54 3%=1298/2390
14 Aerial Assault and FBG - This Guy 1167 101=58+43 2754=1291+1463 42 4%=1167/2754
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 06:20:31


Perrin3088 
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I blame the main discrepency *namely my team* on mine and crafty's recent lack of activity, including the resulting two lost games due to bootings... afaik neither of us have had any booted games in the 1v1 ladder.
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 06:55:36


Doushibag 
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Ah, thanks Fizzer, that looks much better.
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 14:36:38


Ruthless 
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wow, that's really cool. So basically, find the highest rated 1v1 player you can and be their partner for 2v2.

1v1 strength does transfer over to the team games fairly accurately in this small subset.
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 16:32:13


Duke 
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I wasn't whining...

I thought a 40+ point jump for beating a team with a 1450 rating was bizarre.

R and I were expecting to give up 1st place in the next couple of weeks as we've fallen behind in our open games and Nuck was right behind us. BP and E's leapfrog was a surprise.

The congrats were definitely a bit halfhearted. They will be more heartfelt when Nuck passes us.
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 16:35:32


Duke 
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The chart results are interesting - Thx Doushi. Perrin and Crafty at 1322 is ridiculous.

I was also contemplating individual versus team performance today, but found the highest rating achieved to be a more reliable indicator. It factors out those who gave up. I wonder if the correlation will be closer that way.
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 6/29/2011 18:14:54


Perrin3088 
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for my team alone..

1v1
Best rating ever achieved: 1735.
2v2
Best rating ever achieved: 1711.
2vs2 ladder performance compared to 1vs1 ladder performance performance: 7/3/2011 22:19:57


Math Wolf 
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I don't really agree with this as my 2vs2 team is much better than I am in 1vs1, while my teammate is ranked way below me. The reason is that I/we are just much better in 2vs2 than in 1vs1. At this moment, the result may be only 53%, but there has been a time when our rating was less than 1350 and 1650, while our 2vs2 rating was 1750.

Obviously, good 1vs1 players make good 2vs2 players, but there still is quite a difference.
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