How can he be a country?

Hey! Stop thinking about the shit that comes out of my mouth. That's not what I do!

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I am of the view that there should be no minimum wage. Poor people with no skills should be payed accordingly. If you can't find a job, join the army.

Workers, masons and farmers should not be paid at all! Pay them one penny for 12 hours of work for the ones building roads, building houses, building infrastructures, feeding the world, creating real value such as workers in factories! At the meantime, the ones speculating in finance, politicians telling lies and not creating any actual wealth at all should be the ones earning millions! Welcome back to the 19th century!

If you can't find a job, join the army.

PE, the army is responsible of billions of public debts and expenditures> when conservatives and libertarians contradict themselves.

Panda you seem to confuse paying laborers nothing and letting them get paid what folk want to pay them. You don't need violence for a good wage.

violence is advocated by you not me, not the one defending free guns. I do not believe violence is the best way to achieve things at all.
If there were some social improvements through these last 200 years, it is for some reasons. Advocating that people should not be paid at all is backward because no min wage would ultimately lead to abuses, if there is no labor law defending the poorest/lowest ones. I believe you are quite naive to think no abuses would emerge from it.

Panda, the minimum wage is the government using force to make folk pay more.

If you're paid nothing, you are going to get another job or, not still do that job.

But anyway people working whereas not paid at all already exist: one example interns or trainees (many abuses are reported each days about companies hiring trainees from college to avoid paying people, I can talk about that matter since I completed two non paid internships and works currently in one low paid student job), I bet you never worked of your life Major so it is perhaps why you are quite naive in people's benevolence in the "world of work". We could discuss about it once you have enough knowledge about it and once you have your first experiences at work.

This is why I do not take really seriously some participations here (waco, you, PE), from people here that have certainly not any experience at all, and judge it quite naively.

If you're paid nothing, you are going to get another job or, not still do that job.

Again a simplistic view of the reality of the work's world. We are no longer in a time of full employment, economic perspective are extremely bad, in some countries you cannot find any other job, even for the lowest jobs you can find, competition is high, and getting higher each year.

No ones going to pay you nothing, and if they do you won't get that job. Stop being dumb, and saying everything is too complicated to question. The minimum wage is horrible for folk, and keeps them unemployed because no one will pay them for work that produces less than they're being paid.

Poor people with no skills should be payed accordingly.

Poor folk with no skills should die*. And maybe, adding to that, anyone who scores below 5ers in school should be gassed, as these are folk with no brains.

If you can't find a job, join the army.

Besides the filth of the concept of army itself, you have to be somewhat physically and mentally fit to join most armies, and they have rejection rates and quotas as to how many folk they accept, just like normal jobs. It's just like joining the watch or any other government service - you must be somewhat qualified.

This is actually an excellent idea. I approve.
Also, Karl, Shut the fuck up.

No ones going to pay you nothing

What a naive person...

Poor folk with no skills should die*. And maybe, adding to that, anyone who scores below 5ers in school should be gassed, as these are folk with no brains.

Yeah ahah Juq, you got it, Hitler in his time implemented this solution: he gassed "useless" people to the society (poorest ones, deficient ones, etc).

And indeed I agree, about the army everybody cannot join it at all, in France when military service was mandatory (20 years ago), some people with weak psychological abilities (known as P4 in France) were forbidden to join the army.

we should abolish the min wage

market dynamics decide wages perfectly

wage is determine by the employer and employee

government shouldnt interfere in it

within this case the goverment is the employer.... so they decide wat the wage is

raising minimum wage increases the rate of inflation. politicians know this but a lot of them try to do it anyway because they know it will make them popular among the majority of americans who don't know what kind of damage they're doing.

Well Karl, FDR was an Episcopal. Very different from a Jew.


And that idea sounds pretty good. But in a nation with hundreds of millions of people, like the US, the government may not be able to find a job for everyone.

I'd happily take a job manufacturing cars than serving some vague white-collar job. Jobs like the former, well, I just feel like I'm doing something more than analyzing data.

Liveable wage = 1.9 (adjusted) $ each day, as said by WHO.

Does adjusted mean its in a country where you are used to getting no food and a burger (400? calories) costs that much, I don't think that's liveable.

As Donald Trump said, the best social program you can give someone, is a job. People who get a government job should be making minimum wage or somewhere around 8$ an hour, not 8$ in 4 days.

Heres the problem:

OBAMA IS ABSOLUTE SHIT AT MAKING JOBS.

And that idea sounds pretty good. But in a nation with hundreds of millions of people, like the US, the government may not be able to find a job for everyone.

It's not much a stretch, just encourage businesses to file openings in a database, and to check for matches when folk ask. If it's done for millions, it's not much a stretch to do it for hundreds of millions; at most, you could decentralise the process (not by states, though, since that would be very disproportional and is a dumb thought to hand anything to the states as they are now).

Liveable wage = 1.9 (adjusted) $ each day, as said by WHO.

Does adjusted mean its in a country where you are used to getting no food and a burger (400? calories) costs that much, I don't think that's liveable.

Just pretend it's the Big Mac index, and adjusted for how many Big Macs you can buy.

hasnt unemployment gone down under obama

A question for all the socialists/redistributionists/welfare statists - why do you like welfare? Is it for the "equality"? To punish the rich? To give everyone opportunity? I want to see your reasoning.