and well Onoma anyway there are places in Wales and Ireland where English is not spoken at all anyway. And again Alsace should be added as well as Frankish in Lorraine, and French Flemish.

Yeah, take away north Wales and the Outer Hebrides.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Scots_Gaelic_speakers_in_the_2011_census.png

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Welsh_speakers_in_the_2011_census.png

add the south african country of NAMIBIA... German is huge there

Wow you guys have been busy (I was literally offline for like an hour?)

Austria seems to be missing a country bonus

Thanks, I'll get this added :)

Also, I´m sure some Germanic language is spoken in Poland, Czech Republic, France, Slovakia...?

There are small communities of german speakers, but too widely dispersed to include on a map of this size.

Also please add a separate Liechtenstein bonus!!!

If I added a bonus my map wouldn't validate since there's no liechtenstein territory, and I can't add one because it's too small :(

Yes DerWyyy, I already told him about it but he refuses to listen.

I do not see why Ireland is added here since it is a Celtic land like Wales, whereas Alsace isn't and is a Germanic land not only in language but culture too.

Ireland is primarily English speaking throughout, and alsace is primarily french speaking throughout. Do you see now?

I didn't take culture into account at all, since it can be argued that all european culture is just one culture (ask juq, he's a very strong proponent of this position).

french is a germanic language. You left out PreuBen also. Irish isn't a germanic language.

French is not a germanic language, it's a romance language.

Prussia primarily speaks polish in modern times, which is unsurprising given that the eastern part (which is what I'd assume you're complaining about) it's kind of part of poland.

Irish isn't spoken by anyone, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Even in ireland, it's only the native language of around 2% of the population.

Yeah, take away north Wales and the Outer Hebrides.

I'm very uncomfortable with this whole "Taking out parts of countries" business. It was fine with belgium since fair enough, dutch isn't the majority language there, and switzerland was sort of okay since it's a relatively small country. I don't want to have to scan through every province of every country i've included, as this just creates awkward holes in the map, and to be honest it's good enough, since upwards of 90% of the population speaks germanic languages.

add the south african country of NAMIBIA... German is huge there

The map is called "European Germanic Languages". Namibia is as you've pointed out not in europe, but in africa.

Also, if I was adding places outside of europe, Namibia isn't on the top of my list; The United states is.

Edited 5/11/2016 00:27:09

I don't want to have to scan through every province of every country i've included, as this just creates awkward holes in the map, and to be honest it's good enough, since upwards of 90% of the population speaks germanic languages.

Well, as your job as a mapmaker, it's weighty to best your map as possible. But that's already done, anyway, just three deeds: take out the north Welsh, the Outer Hebrides (which are islands), and put in Südtirol.

it can be argued that all european culture is just one culture (ask juq, he's a very strong proponent of this position).

I don't really agree with it in the way you are saying, or really at all. Nostratic theory, yeah, but that's very loose grouping, and includes far more than just Europe.

Well the ancestral/cultural/natural language of Alsace is Alsatian, and it is a 100% Germanic language (something we can't really say about English), and it is still widely spoken. In some places in Ireland and Wales, English isn't the primary language at all, so by your reasoning you should also delete some places of Ireland such as Gaeltacht.

About Wales. The provided map shows the percentage of population which KNOWS welsh. Most of them still use english. So generally north Wales still speaks english today. Only welsh children don't speak english.

And anyway it is not a good idea to split countries. You are asking Imperator to cut little holes in the countries he made plus to add little patches of other countries. This would make the map so much worse I can't understand how you can ask for it.

P.S. It is very innatural to call "ancestral" languages - natural and cultural. Usually ancestral languages do not have anything in common with any culture. Sorry, but culture is reading books (art, science, law), not the ability to order beer or vodka using local pronounciation. And this is the fact - most of the languages do not have any literature.

Edited 5/11/2016 08:24:00

adding Alsace Gallien is not cut little holes in the countries, since it is a big region bordering Germany. It is just common sense btw, if your only argument to not add Alsace is that because Alsatian is no longer the dominant language, then we could talk about some places in Ireland where English isn't dominant either, or even in Scandinavia with the Saami people.

And btw he already "cut some holes" since he added nonetheless some Finland places.

The reason not to add Alsace is only one - it is part of France, where French language is dominant. The reason to add whole British isles is only one - all places there (even those mythical places where no one speaks english) are part of 2 countries - Ireland and Britain, where english language is dominant.

Then as I said earlier, the solution is easy: change the name of this map, and put "Nations where Germanic languages are dominant". But as for now the current title is irrelevant as it does not show the regions where every Germanic language is spoken. And about Alsace, it is just omitting 600.000 (for the lowest estimations) to 1 million people speaking Alsatian a real Germanic language quite close to German actually.

and again, English isn't dominant everywhere particularly in Ireland, Gaeltacht.

And why is Wallonia still part of it, there is almost no people speaking Germanic languages either.

Yeah angry is right english isnt used in all of Ireland. In The gaeltachts they only speak irish as their primary language and some have no english to little english.

Wallonians for example are Gallo-Romanic Germanic people just as the Flemish but speak a romance language instead with a considerable amount of Germanic influences in their language.

Diè wåde ?

(means goodbye in Wallon) (corresponds to Diè wah in Limburgian, a Dutch dialect)

Then as I said earlier, the solution is easy: change the name of this map, and put "Nations where Germanic languages are dominant". But as for now the current title is irrelevant as it does not show the regions where every Germanic language is spoken. And about Alsace, it is just omitting 600.000 (for the lowest estimations) to 1 million people speaking Alsatian a real Germanic language quite close to German actually.

That title is to long, not to mention much less cool than "European Germanic Languages". If you can provide a more compact, cooler version, I'll consider changing.

BTW Here's the latest version wallonia has been removed):

https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=56280

Edited 5/11/2016 14:28:38

Hey thanks :) I may do that for my next project; I'm not sure how well it would do critically Though ("Oh noes waaaaa too many euro maps waaaa").

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Legal_statuses_of_German_in_Europe.svg

Ah, I was wrong about Welsh and Gaelic, but anyhow, still should add in Südtirol. As for the Irish lands, they're really too small to matter. Also, you shouldn't add in Alsace - less than half even know Alsatian.

well it is still more or less half of the Alsatians, and since official ethical/racial/linguistic surveys are actually forbidden in France, it is rather hard to get an actual number, but it goes from 600.000 for the lowest estimation to 1.5 million for the highest (counting here Alsatians also living outside of Alsace), and Alsace has 2 million inhabitants. I still do not see why Alsace isn't added whereas some places in Finland are (like you added Vasa in Finland where only 24% of the population actually speak Swedish...), or some places in Ireland or Wales where English is not even dominant. Still many inconsistencies that could be resolved easily.

I'll add South Tyrol.