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Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 02:25:59


Major General Smedley Butler
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You have no right to tell people what they can't buy or sell. Also , taxing the heck out of drugs means you've done nothing to change the problem. Drug dealers don't have to compete with big pharma and it doesn't change that the government isn't god and can't enforce crap.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 02:28:09


GeneralPE
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I don't care about pie-in-the-sky fantasies about liberty. I don't want people being a cancer on society.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 02:29:50


Major General Smedley Butler
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Oh, you want to get rid of the government?
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 02:40:09


Genghis 
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When we get rid of government, in theory, we'd be a society based entirely on economics.

But in practice, we become no less than barbarians, raiding and fighting each other with no restrictions. We kill who annoys us, we murder the man who stole our cookies. We do the do against a certain gender's will, we cannot grow crops for fear of being razed to the ground.

There cannot be liberty without government. It cannot be democratic, it cannot be oligarchic, it must be a Republic governed by strict Law. There is no alternative, there is only what works as a Government.

It is from this basis of a Lawful Republic that we then branch off into governments that represent a nation's demands, culture and economy.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 02:41:56


GeneralPE
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To think that a Republic is the only form of government is idiocy. It has only be implemented a few times until the 20th century, and yet mankind continues on.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 02:49:21


Major General Smedley Butler
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That's the same idea that if we all raped each other to reproduce, and we just stopped raping each other, we would die out. You don't have to organize society through violence.

Tribes and bands are governments, so no, we have not had full practice. We can grow crops, no ones going to burn down your crops at random because they "can".
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 02:57:00


Жұқтыру
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I think we can all agree that banning drugs begets more problems than it solves, and frankly, do what GeneralPE says, put them under a "vice tax", but don't kill smugglers or anything...since it'd be legal...
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:08:11


Genghis 
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Well, given that human ambition, underlying insecurities and other Freudian nightmares plague human, if they can destroy your crops for their gain, they will. And likely than not, they'll do it just because they can, for no other reason.

Tribes and bands are not an effective governing structure for many people.

If everybody was separated into tribe of a couple dozen, we'd all be worse off for that.

If all the artists are separated by borders, how can there be emulation, reviews, improvement etc.

A lawful republic is the basis for more advanced Gouvernance structures, such as the Democratic Republic, a Parliamentary Republic, a Roman-style Republic etc. Republic is simply the best way to represent a people. An oligarchy can carry on quite well, a total democracy can't sustain.

The Republics are the shining jewels of any globe. The oligarchies will always oppress the people under a system of minority rule, the democracies will always oppress the people under a system of majority rule. These might be working systems, but they are not the morally correct systems.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:10:29


Жұқтыру
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The Republics are the shining jewels of any globe. The oligarchies will always oppress the people under a system of minority rule, the democracies will always oppress the people under a system of majority rule. These might be working systems, but they are not the morally correct systems.


Gosh, stop trying to make up your own words, I told you this before in this case.

republic: A state where sovereignty rests with the people or their representatives, rather than with a monarch or emperor; a country with no monarchy.

democracy: Rule by the people, especially as a form of government; either directly or through elected representatives (representative democracy)
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:11:26


Major General Smedley Butler
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There is no incentive at all to burn down all the crops in your immediate area, you will starve after a few months. And we aren't being set into tribes, we're being set into nothing.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:17:04


Genghis 
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I'm not making up my words. I'm taking existing words and then using their general meaning as a reference to help extrapolate my ideas. If there is one thing that emotions can do that words cannot, it is truly communicate and understand an idea.

I can tell you that a tree is gray, but you wouldn't know what shade of gray. It is when we look at the tree and see what texture and shade of gray it is that we truly nurture an understanding for the tree and its color, its highly specific color.

The dictionary is highly victim to this plague. Prime example of the cancer it causes is with the definition of Feminism. For most, it's about treating women and men technically the same. But for others, it carries the connotation and idea of slaughtering men, advocating for feminine superiority etc.

It is much the same with some other words. For example, Republic and Democracy.

Much like the tree and its color, an understanding of idea is very different that the words surrounding it. Thus we have the purpose of communication and language and the importance of its clarity, precision and etc.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:18:19


Genghis 
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Smedley, where there is progress, there are always those who would rather see us regress.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:22:14


Major General Smedley Butler
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No. No one is going to burn down your crops for absolutely no gain.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:28:11


Genghis 
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Yes. Yes they will. It's sheer human nature. You have something that they want. They might not burn the crops, but they might take them.

In psychology, there's a field called something like Ego Depletion. It centers around the idea that we can only resist so much temptation before we succumb. There's some evidence for and against it, but it is believed that we are looking at it the wrong way and there's likely reasons behind the ideas surrounding it that explain it, but the general idea is believed plausible.

If we were to apply this field, we'd find the temptation of stealing crops to far outweigh not stealing them, and instead walking along.

It's pure human nature. As hobbes would say, from my memory-ish, we're all a-holes by default. We see it in survival games such as Minecraft, Rust or Etc. All the time, because that is the reality of no restrictions.

There is no Animal Farm where all animals are equal. There is only chaos and ruin.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:33:17


Darth Darth Binks
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Frederick the Great would agree with Genghis, here.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 03:43:19


Major General Smedley Butler
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One, you have to get a group of like-minded folk along.

Two, you have to get some guns.

Three, you have to get tools to harvest those crops.

Four, try repeating.

No one will sell a darn thing to you because you're stealing from their clients. This applies to buying ammunition, medical supplies and water. You would have private policing groups out , looking around for your band of raiders, who have the support of folk , and a much bigger base of assets.

Between having a unstable income that depends on putting yourself in a incredibly dangerous situation and having a easy way to just get by like a normal person, I think being a normal person is the logical route.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 04:00:32


Жұқтыру
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Frederick the Great


He was an awful man, way way too idolised, a dirty Austrian. Don't call him "the Great", call him "the womanhater", or the "pogromstarter", but not in any case, the Great.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 04:14:00


Genghis 
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Well then all you're doing is creating a government. People see the issues around them, agree to put aside minor differences and unify under an identity and pledge support for a greater cause and a self-governed society.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 04:41:54


Major General Smedley Butler
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No, they're just not selling to that prick and letting a private company kill him.
Texas just took a step towards legalizing weed: 5/8/2016 04:51:14


Genghis 
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Well where do they the get the money for the company? Aren't they. .. paying... taxes. ...

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