Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/12/2016 16:07:03 |
Riveath
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Oh, the likes of yourself, you mean?
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/12/2016 21:02:04 |
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Gods, what. First of all:
First, There were no "attacks" in Köln. There were "attacks" in Lahor a fortnight ago, where 75+ were killed. In Köln, many women were fondled (happens every day in Japan and other "civilised" countries) and many raped, but none died. This is a small happening.
Second, don't say Cologne, sounds like you're gagging. It's Köln, or alternatively Kölle, not *gag*.
Third, immigrants more often than not have lower crime rates than the native population. The German Justice Minister Heiko Maas and Köln ruler Henriette Reker specifically warned against linking this to the new influx of Muslim refugees. Also, immigrants, more often than not, give more money to the government then they get from it for the first 5 years they stay.
Fourth, you complain about sympathy. You're literally complaining about sympathy and forgiveness. What you should be complaining about, what's at best, national selfishness, and at worst, racism, nationalism and selfish anti-humanitarianism.
Also, Donald Trump has far too many problems, even if banning all Muslims from going into America was somehow something you agreed with, I can go into detail if you want.
Edited 4/12/2016 21:05:42
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/12/2016 21:29:23 |
Ξ Nanaimo
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Also, immigrants, more often than not, give more money to the government then they get from it for the first 5 years they stay. Do you have any sources for that? ^ It seems like the exact opposite in a lot of cases in the United States at least. If a Mexican citizen (or any other person) tries to climb over the fence into the United States, but falls off of the fence, injuring themselves, they are taken to an American hospital and given free medical coverage for their injuries. Apparently, even if they fall backwards back into Mexico and injure themselves, the border patrol will open a door in the fence, get the person, and take them to an American hospital. Sorry I don't have any online source, this was from a friend of mine who works in a hospital that receives these patients. (I live in San Diego, CA btw)
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/12/2016 21:48:13 |
Жұқтыру
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http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/edb17.pdf (looking at the graphes and diagrammes should be enough) Also, it's only humanitarian to help another human if he has fell down.
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 00:51:31 |
GeneralPE
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The German Justice Minister Heiko Maas and Köln ruler Henriette Reker specifically warned against linking this to the new influx of Muslim refugees. It seems cut and dry to me. Look at Scandinavia. One uniform white culture, best place on Earth to live. New World Order multicultural globalism happens, rape and crime shoot up. Also, it's only humanitarian to help another human if he has fell down. You consitently support open borders. Please watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlEYou are not helping the world by letting these people in. You hurt the receiving end because of instability and cultural conflict, and you hurt the countries of origin by encouraging them to not solve any of their own problems. Mass, unbridled migration is not a good thing. To each their own; multiculturalism is never better than uniformity.
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 03:45:50 |
Жұқтыру
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It seems cut and dry to me. Look at Scandinavia. One uniform white culture, best place on Earth to live. New World Order multicultural globalism happens, rape and crime shoot up. First of all, it is kind of cut-and-dry, even more so than you think. There's been studies done, and all them show that immigrants, more often than not, have lower crime rates. This probably will answer most your frains on immigration. http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/special-reports/addressing-common-questions-on-immigrationhttp://www.dst.dk/Site/Dst/Udgivelser/GetPubFile.aspx?id=20703&sid=indv2015In direct answer to your frain http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/10/15/crime-rises-among-second-generation-immigrants-as-they-assimilate/https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.p20151041Second, what's so great about "white culture"? I'm pretty sure most Swedes would either identify culturally as Swedish or Scandinavian, maybe, not whiteskins - this is just an American thing to do, "culturally white". Sweden took in a few immigrants, to get a net population growth, actually, to get a young working force (Sweden's median age is 41 years old). As for Sweden in particular, http://www.thelocal.se/20051214/2683 http://www.bra.se/download/18.cba82f7130f475a2f180001269/2005_17_brottslighet_bland_personer_fodda_sverige_och_utlandet.pdf (in Swedish). A like thing in America - immigrants are more prosecuted for crime, despite having lower crime rates.
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 04:00:26 |
Жұқтыру
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I watched your video, it's kind of rubbish. I couldn't even tell if it was for or against immigration, for example, "The most radic propositions in Washington will grow the population from 1 million to 2 million." That's embarassaing, that's shameful.
America needs no cap on immigration, the more the better. There's no proof of this "social, infrastructure crashing down", even in countries like Jordan, in which poor-as-boot immigrants make up 4/5 the population. He's also for nationalism (they should stay back and help their own countries) and curbing folk's rights for the country's prosperity.
Just your typic conserve.
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 04:44:04 |
Ξ Nanaimo
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If immigrants are so good for a country, why couldn't they do anything good to help the situation in their home country?
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 04:56:19 |
Major General Smedley Butler
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Because most "immigrants" are coming from active warzones.
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 09:15:54 |
Pulsey
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In Köln, many women were fondled (happens every day in Japan and other "civilised" countries) and many raped, but none died. This is a small happening. A small happening indeed! A small happening that they were only fondled and raped! None died, this proves the refugees are peaceful! Also, it's only humanitarian to help another human if he has fell down. Ah and how humanitarian were the attacks in Paris, carried out by some of these 'refugees'? You can sit on your moral high ground, whine about 'humanitarianism' and feel good about yourself, but what have you actually done to help these refugees yourself? Have you offered your own house or food for refugees? You seem to think countries can draw up imaginary resources out of nowhere to help and shelter the influx of thousands of people!
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 15:06:35 |
GeneralPE
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@Xpapy How does the part where we could take 18 million each year and still do nothing not mean anything to you? We need to solve root issues, not symptoms.
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 18:54:14 |
chuck norris
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@pulsey most of the terrorists in the paris and brussels attacks had a european passport and some of them were born in europe, they werent immigrants
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 18:58:58 |
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Gods, what. First of all: This isn't the first time you have said "Gods". I am very interested what polytheistic religion you adhere to.
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 22:06:09 |
Melisandre (the Red Woman)
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This isn't the first time you have said "Gods". I am very interested what polytheistic religion you adhere to. +1 Ox. Xpapy needs to reveal what polytheistic religion he's in. It's very, very curious.
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Honestly, we need to end this.: 4/13/2016 22:10:01 |
Жұқтыру
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If immigrants are so good for a country, why couldn't they do anything good to help the situation in their home country? They usually do, but they want to move for whatever grounds. Job calls for it, wanting a site with less crime, something like that. Fine with me, let them help your country. A small happening indeed! A small happening that they were only fondled and raped! None died, this proves the refugees are peaceful! Noone died, this is a small happening in my opinion. Many were greatly annoyed, to say the least, but the count of folk who were physically injured was 3, the rest, it was just an illegal doing, but noone got hurt, noone's lives are in peril. It's important to put things to scale. In Lahor, 75+ folk lost their lives, 300+ injured, and here you are talking about Köln where not even 5 folk were injured. Ah and how humanitarian were the attacks in Paris, carried out by some of these 'refugees'? As I said earlier, immigrants more often than not have lower crime rates than nativities. How about the 800 others murdered in France that year, almost wholly by native French? You can sit on your moral high ground, whine about 'humanitarianism' and feel good about yourself, but what have you actually done to help these refugees yourself? Have you offered your own house or food for refugees? You seem to think countries can draw up imaginary resources out of nowhere to help and shelter the influx of thousands of people! I greatly value human life, yes. So if that's moral high ground, the world truly has become quite a disgusting site. Also, what I do is irrelevant to the argument, but I don't think - I know. The great majority of studies on the top show that immigration brings economic growth, along with other good things. But let's assume that even they don't, and take a few countries along with average GHP, and see how much they can take in while keeping the average tenfold above the World Bank poverty line of 694 $/year, and assuming each immigrant takes net 694 $ each year (even though that's, again, hardly is shown to happen). America alone would be able to take in 22 thousand million leeches alone, more than Earth's population. How does the part where we could take 18 million each year and still do nothing not mean anything to you? We need to solve root issues, not symptoms. Why stop at 18 million? That bloke had nothing to back up his claim that somehow taking away immigrants makes more, or that America would, oh boy, collapse, if they did something as radic as taking in as much as 2 million immigrants each year. Just take in all 800 million.
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