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Tell me who is the main hypocrite here?

Again you are spreading your political views in a thread that was created to show our support and sympathy to the victims and to the people of Brussels, and talk about a dramatic event, and you derail this thread and you are attacking us for what? Our profile pics? "Je suis" or people with Belgian flags or gathering in public to pray for the victims, all of these have nothing to do with politics.

The topic of this thread is Brussels Attacks. How to deal with Brussels attacks is at least as important as sanctimonious declarations of sympathy and respect. Nobody benefits from your sympathy or respect. People need radical Islamic terrorism to stop, once and for all. But you are among the first to call people racists who offer solutions to the problem, like Donald Trump. That is what makes you a hypocrite. If you don't want to end radical Islamic terrorism, then at least be honest about it and don't tell people they have your sympathy and respect.

Trump is a greedy bastard. If he takes the oil and ISIS gets destroyed, then there is no way he will give any of that oil back to Iraq / Syria (who it belongs to)

Tbh I'd rather Trump make it his personal property than it be given to ISIS, Al-Qaida or Boko Haram. The absolute priority is to defeat ISIS.

And if the EU was smart, they wouldn't try to give them back, either. Syria and Iraq would love a population, though, that frankly would not be much poorer than the median man there.

Yeah, the EU definitely needs millions of unskilled workers that are going to depend on European social security for the foreseeable future.

By that thinking, if a dogma is "defined" by its adherents, then Trump's ideas must be bisexual yet heterosexual at the same time, 45 years or older, and whiteskins.

Haha, no. The movement that Trump is leading is defined by the thoughts and actions of Trump and his supporters. The movement stands for getting rid of lobbyists in the White House, political correctness, radical Islamic terrorism, etc. Trump supporters don't show up at Bernie rallies to hit and terrorize Bernie supporters. They defend themselves against attacks at Trump rallies, and they have every right to do so even though the media tries very hard to take it out of context and paint a picture of unprovoked violence against "protesters".

The topic of this thread is Brussels Attacks. How to deal with Brussels attacks is at least as important as sanctimonious declarations of sympathy and respect. Nobody benefits from your sympathy or respect. People need radical Islamic terrorism to stop, once and for all. But you are among the first to call people racists who offer solutions to the problem, like Donald Trump. That is what makes you a hypocrite. If you don't want to end radical Islamic terrorism, then at least be honest about it and don't tell people they have your sympathy and respect.

What I do not get is why do you have to attack us for a profile pic? You say people with 'Je suis' pics are hypocrite? How do you know them all? People of any beliefs and opinions are represented and there is no need to insult them The Lord. This won't help at all.

And you say I am a hypocrite, I know at least one person (my former English teacher) that lost a friend during the Paris attacks, and the father of a guy I know who is currently in Brussels with no news of him at all since yesterday. This tragedy is touching me personally so the least you can do is show respect and stop with your propaganda and derailing thread with your shit. As Math Wolf said for such horrible events some of you are immediately used to defend and attack politicians, this again has nothing to do here.

And do not put words in my mouth I never stated at all I never said Trump was racist, I clearly stated I did not personally believe he was racist but he is nonetheless defending xenophobic and backwards theories just to attract a special electorate, he is lying to himself, like Nicolas Sarkozy also used to have the same strategy, renouncing his personal ideals to attract some electors, and this at the end will fail.

You say people with 'Je suis' pics are hypocrite?

No. I say people with 'Je suis' pics who also attack critics of Islam as racists or panderers to racism are hypocrites. I don't see anything hypocritical in posting a Belgian flag and also criticizing the current Islamic mainstream.

I know at least one person (my former English teacher) that lost a friend during the Paris attacks, and the father of a guy I know who is currently in Brussels with no news of him at all since yesterday. This tragedy is touching me personally

A politician that I support has been dishonestly branded as a racist or at least a panderer to racism by politically correct hypocrites who claim to 'respect' and 'sympathise with' the victims of this attack and others. They are effectively blocking solutions to the problem by making it impossible to criticize the source of the problem without earning a questionable reputation. It touches me personally that I cannot say what I think without many of those very same people calling me a racist. Just because I don't personally know anyone who died in Brussels doesn't mean I don't have a say. Saying that you cannot criticize politicians in the wake of a terrorist attack is nothing else than using that tragedy to silence people.

he is lying to himself, like Nicolas Sarkozy also used to have the same strategy, renouncing his personal ideals to attract some electors, and this at the end will fail.

Talking about French politics, do you think everyone, or even most, or Front National voters are racists? And if not, why do the other two major parties offer no workable solutions to mass immigration? Is it a big surprise that Front National gains support when Hollande, after the latest Paris attack, only offers his sympathies to the victims and says that the attack shouldn't be used to criticize Islam? By his inaction, he is inviting more terrorist attacks.

Lord, stop bringing racism into everything. You do this every thread when anyone does anything.

It's not me calling Trump a racist or a panderer to racism. The moment others stop calling him one, I will stop talking about it.

It's funny. Islam isn't a race, but somehow critics of Islam or radical Islamic terrorism are still called racists.

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The first person to mention race at all was you. You brought up both race and Trump and you implied that only Trump could defeat ISIS when it is clear that ISIS is not going to last regardless of the elections.

Trump was called a racist way before this thread even existed - and not by me. I referred to that to point out hypocrisy, which was my actual point.

Trump has no relation to this thread or this topic directly. There is no reason to bring it up here, and accusing others of calling him racist and bringing him up is purely hypocritical.

Trump and other critics of Islam have a very direct relation to this threads's topic: they are the solution to the problem. You might be content listening to condolences from people who have no idea how to prevent such attacks in the future. Maybe even block attempts. I am not.

you implied that only Trump could defeat ISIS when it is clear that ISIS is not going to last regardless of the elections.

How do you know how long ISIS will last?

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I guess the egoistic and narrow-minded nature of some people cannot be helped. It's difficult not to get pessimistic from all of this.

The only grounds this is actual news is from narrow-mindedness. Far more folk die everyday, just not often in West Europe. Where is the "Je suis Ankara"? Or "Je suis Baga", or any major stir about them? More killed, less attention paid. Won't you just get sad reading the major wars and conflicts of the last 10 years? Well, as Stalin's famous advertising saying is, "One death is a tragedy. One million is a stat.".

Nobody forbids you to have "je suis Ankara" in your profile Juq, this has nothing to do with 'narrow-mindedness'. Don't forget Cote d'Ivoire and Mali that also faced terrorist attacks these last days.

Ankara
http://www.kedistan.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/ankara-campagne-solidarite.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQ-lsXQUYAACh_o.jpg

Edited 3/24/2016 00:30:13

Mali and Bamako

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/dnKyZrs1HhU/hqdefault.jpg

Edited 3/24/2016 00:29:06

Beirut Ankara Paris
http://cdn.static-economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/full-width/images/2015/11/articles/main/20151121_blp538_2.jpg

Edited 3/24/2016 00:29:45

Bassam, Cote d'Ivoire
http://www.winclass.ci/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/je_suis_Bassam-540x330.jpg

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Je suis sick of all that "Je suis".

Nobody forbids you to have "je suis Ankara" in your profile Juq, this has nothing to do with 'narrow-mindedness'. Don't forget Cote d'Ivoire and Mali that also faced terrorist attacks these last days.

These were only a few big or recent examples I listed, the point is, this attack is nothing special. If you want to honour the dead, fine, but honour all innocents dead, not some innocents dead. And yeah, noone forbids me, but the problem is, narrow-mindedness to the point of arbitrarily valuing some lives over others.

437,000 people were murdered worldwide in 2012...it would take an awfully long time to "honour all innocents dead".

All lives are equally valuable and I don't think anyone can say otherwise, but I don't think honoring those who died in Belgium yesterday is somehow wrong or narrow-minded. It may be naive at the most, but we should never criticize people for feeling sad about the death of innocent people.