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RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 03:10:20


Des {TJC}
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Or you could all just I dunno...grow up?


I understand where Eklipse is coming from, but Eklipse genuinely doesn't post things that are absolute trash and are meaningless. Where as I can count all but maybe three people on this forum that aren't garbage posters.

In the end grow up. Its a game, if you're going to be on the forum, follow the forums rules. I digress, stop whining and get over the fact that someone who consistently bashed other people got banned. And now, I'm just waiting for the blatant sex clan to get banned.

But until that happens, I don't see anything else that he can do besides I dunno, hire on more staff.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 03:15:23


Eklipse
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@Des: It's not just the fact that Salty was banned which is making people angry. It's the fact that the rules seem to be getting enforced really unevenly. If the rules were being enforced equally across the board, I don't think we'd be seeing as much outrage over this.

And now, I'm just waiting for the blatant sex clan to get banned.

Never going to happen and we both know it. :P
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 03:28:57


Des {TJC}
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@Eklipse If you and I were to get banned for being blunt, I'd be more upset. But again, its not like its actual preferential treatment. Its probably more based on the amount of times they get reported. Salty probably got a lot of crap for doing what he did, and guess what, if his name was on the top of the hit list, so be it.

And secondly, yeah I know. If people really wanna talk about unfairness and inequality, lets look at the fact that we still have someone called Cumburper playing Warlight.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 03:30:54


Жұқтыру
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If people really wanna talk about unfairness and inequality, lets look at the fact that we still have someone called Cumburper playing Warlight.


I don't think the folk here are whining about the rules being enforced - just the temporal and punishment inconsistency.

Also, taking an elitist tone helps nothing - you criticise them for whining by whining.

Edited 3/4/2016 03:31:38
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 03:37:26


Des {TJC}
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Honestly, I'm not whining, its more of a "female dog in heat" sort of way. I literally can't go anywhere on the forums without seeing someone post something completely and utterly and infinitely dumb. And honestly, I've done all that I can. There isn't much more to do when you have a clan thats literally slang off the body's anatomy.

The biggest part of the inconsistency should've been when Cumburper was forced to change their name and went to another sexual term before changing it back to Cumburper.

Unfair? I doubt it. Its more or less just the person being banned.

And yeah, its gonna sound elitist, how often do you really see a post by me Xapy? And in all honesty, I was hoping more anger and being absolutely annoyed would've came out. But whatever. Not much more I can do.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 03:44:49


Жұқтыру
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Honestly, I'm not whining, its more of a "female dog in heat" sort of way. I literally can't go anywhere on the forums without seeing someone post something completely and utterly and infinitely dumb. And honestly, I've done all that I can. There isn't much more to do when you have a clan thats literally slang off the body's anatomy.


To be frank, I like the wacko trolling, it's a funny parody of gamers. As for dumb folks, well, they're not going away, but that's not what this thread is about - it's about the same thing you are talking about here - "inconsistency".
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 03:48:08


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The Wackos are the next attackers. They will get banned one by one slowly the way they are going :p they already have one down. But frankly, I'm with juq here, it's actually pretty funny. Maybe I'm just attracted to general shtposting.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 04:02:11


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....we are like Edo japan....
(well, i am hell tired, i haven't any idea )

Btw, SirSalty, in my opinion, even if it was annoying sometimes , he was a very good friend (at least in diplos, in the last one we were in a strong alliance , and the only one i had...)
Kammeraden, you will be missed, maybe not. But...that's the life..
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 13:18:16


Riveath
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Back in my days, people were banned for actual troublemaking, y'know. Like Ion posting his nudes and stuff.


+1
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 14:56:56


ChrisCMU 
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A few things i see in this thread...

1) zeph said he woulf be fine with a game ban if he could still banter on forums. Do you realize that is the issue? So many see the forums as primary and the game secondary (like something to kill time between OT posts). That is a big issue IMO. The boads supplement the game, not the other way around.

2) someone said it is two way street (that with no traffic, no revanue). True, but the vast majority of people would still play without the forums at all. You guys may think everyone prioritizes the boards, but most avoid them because they are mostly OT or clan banter now.

3) the bar may be lower for a ban, not sure. But back in the day you had VERY few pushing boundaries. With so many now, perhaps he has to tighten standards

Edited 3/4/2016 14:58:38
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 15:03:11


Prabster Realm
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+1 to chris
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 15:07:12


Klarik
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Chris why u hatin on a real gangsta?
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 15:13:16


Zephyrum
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1) zeph said he woulf be fine with a game ban if he could still banter on forums. Do you realize that is the issue? So many see the forums as primary and the game secondary (like something to kill time between OT posts)


You know, when the game has no variation whatsoever (the ones that exist are hardly used - competitive playing in general sticks to very few particular maps, such as ME/MME, with not many settings fluctuation) and the forums always has fresh new interesting things to discuss, laugh or hate about, it's pretty clear why some people value it more than the game itself.

That's not the "big issue", MANY players tend to stick to a game for ages and ages despite being quite fed of it just due to community presence. WarLight is no exception. If you don't, well, congratulations, you like Risk and you're better at it than most people. But the players aren't hive-minded. Some like Multi-attack, some like local deployments, some like playing diplomacies, some like to sit back and mess around with custom scenarios and others just really like the forums. Nothing wrong with that. That variety is what keeps a game alife, be it WarLight or not, and literally the last interesting part of all - I repeat, ALL - browser games in the current state of the internet.

You guys may think everyone prioritizes the boards, but most avoid them because they are mostly OT or clan banter now.


I don't think anybody ever said that removing the OT would just kill WarLight (hell, a couple people would probably throw a party for that). But removing the OT would lower traffic, thus lowering revenue. Effectively the same thing as removing underused settings (LD, MA, WR) - players who liked it just leave. Remember Dead Piggy dropping out when the ladder changes showed up?

As said earlier, though, the OT is just another part of WarLight Fizzer really doesn't care about. Much like many others. Fizzer's focus seem to be entirely on new players now, which is sort of correct; making sure new people come is always great, but if he can't keep them here he'll have trouble in several more years. This is why literally everytime some update or ban happens, I give the same rant - Fizzer is pushing the game in a direction that has been taken by other developers before, and the events are all turning out the same way. Uservoice updates - generally aimed at longer-standing players - are ignored, while AI/Single-Player changes are favored - generally aimed at newcomers.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 15:19:41


Klarik
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zeph why you bein a playa hateuh?
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 15:46:43


ChrisCMU 
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I have not played MME in months, and play very few on ME.

You need to branch out and join more leagues and tournaments if you are bored.

I just think when you see the forums as the best part, that is a bad road to take because this is not a chat site and not set up with tools and such to run as one. If you turn this into forums first, game 2nd...it means less time he develops the game and more time trying to be a chat site.

Edited 3/4/2016 15:49:30
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 16:06:49


Zephyrum
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You need to branch out and join more leagues and tournaments if you are bored.


I'm not quite "bored", just growing fond of it due to repetition, slowly. If I was bored, probably I wouldn't do such insanity:



The problem is not the game, the problem is that the forums are just so much more fun.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 16:58:48


ChrisCMU 
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I'm not saying OT should go away. Have your fun. Just don't do stuff that pushes boundaries (not you specifically, but people in general).
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 17:00:02


P@üĝrz
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Boundaries are made to be broken :p
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 17:05:34


Zephyrum
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I'm not saying OT should go away. Have your fun. Just don't do stuff that pushes boundaries (not you specifically, but people in general).


The problem is question is what exactly are the boundaries, why they seem different from people to people and why are they suddenly applied and more strict so quickly.
RIP SirSalty. Forever.: 3/4/2016 17:07:31


Klarik
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Because Fizzer is a human being. He has certain triggers and certain people who upset him. Salty must be one of them or he must have said or done something that especially disturbed fizzer. Or he got more complaints about him than anyone else.
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