OK, at this point we have 7 for F. All guaranteed spots are taken up, but please continue to sign up in case another clan drops out (we may boot Darklords who barely participated).

Will there be a development league?

I propose to include the current 2v2 ladder settings in the clan league.

Reasons:
- It's an "official" template Also maybe there can be some side effects on more ladder participation when this template is included in the clan league.
- I heard some strange arguments about this template being "unstrategic". "Unstrategic" means that worse teams have great chances to win against better teams however this is contradicted by the fact that ladder records were broken on this template.

Edited 2/10/2016 18:23:02

i propose to eliminate that template and use a good one for 2v2 ladder instead

Edited 2/10/2016 18:25:03

@Norman: That template will be in the vote, but it's all voted.

So, how does this work now? do I get a pm from chris or something?

Be patient. CL7 is not over yet.

Edited 2/10/2016 19:03:33

"- I heard some strange arguments about this template being "unstrategic". "Unstrategic" means that worse teams have great chances to win against better teams however this is contradicted by the fact that ladder records were broken on this template. "

Not arguing which template is more strategic, but that's a misnomer. Someone gaming the system on the new template to beat an un-gamed record on the old template is not apples to apples.

How did someone "game the system" to get the record?

Believe it or not, but joining the ladder at specific times to get specific opponents and more importantly, to avoid matchups you feel you won't win is quite different than just joining and playing whoever you get matched against.

But when you're first place, undefeated and you beat everyone below you, why would you feel you'd lose against someone?
And getting paired up with better teams, shouldn't it be the opposite of gaming? You're more likely to lose against a team who's #2 than any other.

Edited 2/10/2016 19:34:48

Not going to debate that ladder, but the template will be voted on by Div A regardless. Still, you can't make me vote for it :)

"i propose to eliminate that template and use a good one for 2v2 ladder instead "

+1.

Wouldn't it be a good idea if a Clan League Template thread was made where clans and the general community can voice their opinions and let people voice their ideas and pick the best ideas and have them on discussion? I don't like the idea that a very selective, A basic philosophy would be to have a thread let the community or clans voice their opinions about the templates, Move the best ideas into selection for vote.

Basically, Let the other clans have a voice and submit ideas and have the clan league council decide what is best.

I think that's what they have now.

If I'm not mistaken, any clan can nominate a template, and the A League-rs vote on them.

@Chris, I don't know who will be running things. Most likely moOoOo, I asked on the group about what the story is. Should have an answer shortly

@Platinum - no, it is not a good idea to have the general community vote on the templates. We'd end up with some bad templates I suspect.

However, anyone can nominate a template, and it will be voted on by the leaders in A. If you want to argue that it should be less exclusive (like A and B vote), that could be an option. But I like the idea of the people who have played CL a while (which it takes to get into A and/or B) deciding what is good for the league.

I do agree with sentiments that we need more variety. BUT, to replace a 3v3 on EU, you need a viable alternative. We won't opt for variety at the expense of quality.

What will happen in the trim down item I mentioned is we'll take all the 3v3 RoR templates (an example) and find the best one. Otherwise if there are 6 RoR templates fairly similar, they'd all split votes and have no chance at winning a spot.

Well I was trying to mention that the community could put the ideas forward and let the Council decide from that which I think is what is happening in this thread?

I personally word prefer it to be exclusive to A and B for the clan league council I think A and B are clans who have been here since it first began so it would be nice :)

Chris, did you see me enter EIC into clan league?