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Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:18:39


Angry Koala
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Anything against Conservative view is PC or bad, we get it you know.

Btw Conservative again how could you talk about Europe all the time, since you seem to know nothing about it? Gosh try better again.
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:22:49


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I feel like the people who reside within their countries know less about their own country than foreigners. Europe, America, rest of world included.
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:23:46


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Except for Sierra Leone. Those mofo got it tough.
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:28:45

E Masterpierround
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I believe what he's saying is that he sees Trump and Sanders as the "extreme" members of their respective parties. I don't believe this is accurate. If you're looking for an extreme Republican, Ted Cruz is probably the closest thing to it. Some (being nice here, many people would say "most") of Trump's positions are so overwhelmingly stupid that nobody in politics supports them. Therefore, I wouldn't call him an extreme Republican, Trump is just extreme in his own way. Sanders, on the other hand, does have views that are mostly more extreme versions of the Democratic Party's views. The major exception for him is gun control, where he is less extreme than most Democrats.

Also, could you clarify what you meant by this:
I happen to actually the European system in everything but it's strict state rules, and it's socialism.
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:30:12


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why you are always comparing Europe to the US (you are always the first to talk about this) which is so irrelevant really.

This is a serious case of the pot calling the kettle black. Panda, you compare the U.S to Europe in nearly every debate that happens on the forum.

Btw Conservative again how could you talk about Europe all the time, since you seem to know nothing about it?

This complaint might be valid, were it not coming from someone who constantly talks about the U.S as if he's an expert while not really understanding it.


>Hitchslap
>A. Koala
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>Conservative
>Jai


Change that to Hitchslap, A. Koala, and wct vs. Conservative, Jai, Eklipse, and Darth Darth Binks and you'll summarize most of the recent political debates on this forum.

You could easily make a drinking game out of it as well.

Take a drink everytime someone compares Europe to the U.S
Take a drink everytime political correctness is mentioned
Take a drink everytime someone calls someone else a hypocrite (Two if said person actually IS being a hypocrite)
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:33:40


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What tf are you talking about Koala? Try harder to do whatever your doing, please, for my sake. Lol Really? There nothing alike?

Both Sanders and Trump are the extreme of there parties

Both say ridiculous things to get attention


Both get away with saying certain things and expressing ideas because they are the extreme


Neither is truly an outsider even though the claim to be


Both don't have a prayer of winning


Both are loud and love to scream rhetoric


Both are Mad because they claim they aren't treated fairly


Both can be extremely unsettling by way of there socialism and racism


Both Hate the other side and think they can get whatever they want done without the other side ( like Obama )
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:34:48


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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LOL HITCHSLAP WHERE DID YOU GET THAT GRAPH??!!

Looks really professional, accurate, and not biased when you have the creator using childish vocabulary and phrases: "flat-earth society", "stuck in mud", "believes in science", "dog-whistlers". Please. Who wrote this? A 13 year old with Paint? Come back when you have a real argument.

Of course you think the Democrats had a better debate. No surprise there. Its easy when you have the DNC chair protecting Hillary Clinton and marginalizing Martin O'Malley. Come back when you have 10-15 candidates competing for the Democratic nomination (Democrats have no one with name recognition to even run). Of course as the field gets larger the amount of "what you term shouting" is going to increase...its basic logic as every candidate will try to get their views across in the most simple and fastest way possible!! That doesn't however mean that the "shouting" was not actual debate on real policy differences. Check out these videos and you'll get a taste of what you're liberal bias has blinded to you in the debates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXXdOs1P3NM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKkJ-K8qPXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9exfIk8bOGw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3cPwChgMfs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZbK2lkm324

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Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:35:41


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Actually it's very logical to compare European executive to American executive, the executive of any democratic country really. Read this eye opening article about the bullshit all national executives pull.

http://www.brookings.edu/research/papers/2012/11/02-us-colombia-election-hudak
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:38:20

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I don't like her at all, but c'mon guys lets be real here...as unfortunate as it is Hillary Clinton probably has the election in the bag :(
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:39:20


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Yes Wct. European governments tend to directly or indirectly control very many aspects of A citizens life. For instance, in Austria, the government has put regulations in order to make sueing so expensive nobody does it but the rich. In America, even though the entire sueing thing is annoying and complicated it doesn't mean we shut everything down. We just suck it up and deal with it because we believe citizens have that right. From what I have read and heard, in most European countries individualism is a joke. However, I like European culture and many social values
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:41:29


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^ Nice idea for a drinking game indeed, I would join this definitely.

But seriously, read up this discussion, and read previous other ones, and you would see I am not the one starting the whole thing about US vs Europe.
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:45:51


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Conservative this is again what I meant about your ignorance of how European states work. First of all, Europe is not a country, it is composed of different nations, with different systems, Europe is diversity, so putting the whole Europe into one system is totally wrong. Secondly, most of the Western European states have no government directly controlling every aspects of a citizen's life. I dont know where did you get this, but I would like to see your own source of this.
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:46:45

E Masterpierround
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No, don't do the drinking game. You will die from alcohol poisoning.

Also, I think everyone but Hitchslap and Jai understand that the graph was most likely intended to be an exaggeration intended to be comedic. Any comedic value it has is at the expense of Republicans, so you decide for yourself how funny it is, but I'm pretty sure it was intended to be a joke.

Edited 1/13/2016 00:40:38
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:48:44


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LOL HITCHSLAP WHERE DID YOU GET THAT GRAPH??!!

Looks really professional, accurate, and not biased when you have the creator using childish vocabulary and phrases: "flat-earth society", "stuck in mud", "believes in science", "dog-whistlers". Please. Who wrote this? A 13 year old with Paint? Come back when you have a real argument.


It Wasn't meant to be professional nor accurate nor unbiased. It's just a way for me to avoid going over all the differents views of the republican candidate vs the democrats regarding climate change. That would be too tedious to do, and it is a well know fact anyway that almost every candidate in the republican primary reject the scientific evidences backing climate change. This graph sums it up accurately enough for the purpose of my point, and with humour. I could do the same for the theory of evolution, wich is even more embarassing for some of the republican candidate.These idiotic views some of the republican have lead to some idiodic policies.
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/12/2016 23:49:01


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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I can't drink. I'm a teetotaler.

First of all, Europe is not a country, it is composed of different nations, with different systems

Don't worry Koala. The United States of Europe is coming. Soon enough you will be relieved of your nationality and ethnicity, and you can pray to Merkel and Hollande at the Notre Dame cathedral!!

This graph sums it up accurately enough for the purpose of my point, and with humour. I could do the same for the theory of evolution, wich is even more embarassing for some of the republican candidate.These idiotic views some of the republican have lead to some idiodic policies.

LOL YOU ARE HIGH! WHEN DID EVOLUTION COME UP DURING ANY OF THE REPUBLICAN DEBATES??? Also it wasn't really funny. I thought my chafee meme was better xD.

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Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/13/2016 00:03:04


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You cannot "believe in science".

Bernie is idiot who says the things that every twenty something can get behind. People are good, Sweden is cool, banks are bad vote for me! He's fucking Andrew Jackson reincarnated.

Edited 1/13/2016 00:03:53
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/13/2016 00:07:00


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Oh another thing :

While China is an authoritarian nation, they do have a degree of democracy in their government in the form of Meritocracy. They would never let some spineless farmer rule the country. In fact, it takes as many as 20 years of displayed administrative prowess sometimes to become the Executive - equivalent there.

I think that elections in America oft aren't like this.

If we were to follow the Chinese model, Trump would be our best option. He has handled many businesses very well. Hillary is mounted with scandals and inefficiency. Trump likely only acts the way he does because he feels he has nothing to prove : his credentials are already in place.
Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/13/2016 00:07:11


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Rand Paul Removed from Main Stage: 1/13/2016 00:07:58


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P.s. Behhrnie Sanduhhs

Lol that jersey accent is heartwarming
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