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NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 18:36:38


{rp} General Mac 
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i thought it was about you being dropped 10 levels because of the ninja games.

so whats the question? should it be ok to create these type of games?

my opinion is... yes it should be ok to create them but you should get no points for the cheap win
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 19:14:08


Weisblut
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by the way if u got dropped 10 lvls u would cry 2
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 19:15:26


Weisblut
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im ok if they decrese the points in those games but as i said i think its not ok to punish someone who is not in cinflict with the rules thats like living in nazi germany
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 19:15:42


myhandisonfire 
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You shouldnt make leveling your religion.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 19:28:28

Fizzer 
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Whether it's against the rules or not depends on the game. If it's automatic distribution (i.e. people who don't read the settings have the same odds of winning as those who do) and if it's named something appropriate, like "Lottery game" (so the people who don't want that kind of game can avoid it), then it's okay.

However, if the game is specifically crafted just to try to exploit players who don't know how to read settings, then that's a problem. Weisblut's games were clearly this: they used maps without bonus links to hide which territory was overridden, they used manual distribution, and they contained text telling players to pick a specific territory (when really the winning territory was a different one).

Weisblut was also given a warning asking him to stop doing it. He only lost levels because he disregarded the warning and continued doing it anyway.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 19:34:10


myhandisonfire 
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Still feels like nazi germany.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 19:40:41


Taishō 
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Weisblut, if this was Nazi Germany, you'd be in Auschwitz and not getting docked 10 levels. If you were in Communist East Germany you would get a letter and be arrested upon opening the letter with the excuse that you had been warned, but failed to comply.

From what Fizzer just posted you deliberately disregarded the warnings and deserve more than 10 levels and yes that is entirely unethical and unfair.

For shame sir, for shame.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 20:06:11


AWESOMEGUY 
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it wasn't just the pirate/ninja games...you made a lot more games with overridden bonuses to gain cheap levels.

They weren't even on the same map as you are trying to explain.


Honestly, Illuminati dropped more levels than you for less than that. Consider yourself lucky.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 22:13:19


Weisblut
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OK WELL NOW ITS AGAINST THE RULES IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO BEEN TOLD THE EXPLENATION BEFORE THE LVL DROPPING AND STILL AS IT IS STATED IN WIKI WARLIGHT THERE IS NO CHEATING THAT MEANS THERE IS NO RULE BREAKING IN WARLIGHT .... I THINK THE LVL DROPPING PUNISHMENT IS NOT OK IF U GONNA HAVE RULES THAT FORBID SUCH GAMES U GOTTA STATE THEM CLEARLY SOMEWHERE FOR ALL PLAYERS TO SEE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT IS NII GERMANY ALL OVER .....

@ AWESOMEGUY WHAT DID ILLUMINATI DO??
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 22:18:31


Weisblut
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PS ILL ONLY DO LOTTORY GAMES NOW TILL IM BACK UP TO MY LVL THAT WAS UNRIGHTFULLY STOLEN FROM ME.... =(=(=(=(=(=(
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 22:33:51


ps 
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and your caps key is locked.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 22:38:32


Weisblut
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yea sry bout that
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 22:45:08


Techpriest
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OK WELL NOW ITS AGAINST THE RULES IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO BEEN TOLD THE EXPLENATION BEFORE THE LVL DROPPING AND STILL AS IT IS STATED IN WIKI WARLIGHT THERE IS NO CHEATING THAT MEANS THERE IS NO RULE BREAKING IN WARLIGHT .... I THINK THE LVL DROPPING PUNISHMENT IS NOT OK IF U GONNA HAVE RULES THAT FORBID SUCH GAMES U GOTTA STATE THEM CLEARLY SOMEWHERE FOR ALL PLAYERS TO SEE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT IS NII GERMANY ALL OVER .....

@ AWESOMEGUY WHAT DID ILLUMINATI DO??


From Warlight Wiki...

...These rules aren't displayed as prominently since they're common sense...


Taking advantage over people... I wonder.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 22:45:12


Ska2D2 
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Fizzer didn't make the wiki. Do you even know what a wiki is?
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 22:51:33


Genghis 
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When you first go to the WarLight forums, the first things you are likely to see are :
    WGL Thread * Ninja/Pirate Game Discussion * Incorrect Grammar/Spelling( Even with edit tool and english dictionaries at everyone's disposal via internet )

I'm sure this list is longer, but I'm ending it there. Hey, maybe with the full list we can have a little WarLight Forums Scavenger Hunt?

Anyways, I must agree that if you're given a warning you should stop. Like they say in one of the Military Branches ( or the Army ?? ), shape up or ship out.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 23:30:51


wjackson 
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It is just like other games just more luck and more immediate result. I have won without the bonus because of others mistakes. So their lack of common sense came into play. I don't really play for the points it is mainly to kill the time until another game comes up or to see if i am the lucky ninja. It is also a lot clearer than the games of large maps and one hidden bonus that no one will notice.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 9/30/2013 23:41:31


Techpriest
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Ska2D2 must be new to the Wiki. Guess who owns the Wiki? Fizzer. Guess who made the Rules page? Fizzer. Proof is already in the History of the Rules page.




In defining a wiki:

a website that allows collaborative editing of its content and structure by its users.


Fizzer is a user and an administrator of the Wiki. He has the right to control what goes in and out or that Wiki.
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 10/1/2013 00:05:13


Ska2D2 
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Yes he's a user. You must not have been around when General Arun made the wiki. As I said Fizzer did not make the wiki.

Also your very definition reveals the problem ... you got it yet? Yes, any user can edit a wiki. Sigh.

Edited 10/1/2013 00:06:59
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 10/1/2013 00:11:35


Techpriest
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I apologize for that.

However, Fizzer created the page and implied that common sense applied to the rules, and some of the common sense includes not taking advantage over people.

Back to me hidey hole.

Edited 10/1/2013 00:13:11
NINJA GAMES Right or Wrong ????: 10/1/2013 00:32:58

{rp} Kvich 
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Yes they are wrong.
Misdirection and lying is wrong.
Creating a game, and calling it "Ninja win in 1 turn" but it's actually the Pirate that wins is lying. (Not saying that's exactly what you did, just stating an example)
Not sure what's worse, you taking advantage of people that didn't read the settings, or trying to trick people in the first place.

Personally I'm fine with games that are 100% luck (those lottery games), but taking my example as before, trying to trick people to go for the Ninja, is not even games about luck anymore, which is the wrong part.
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