Ah I remembered incorrectly, I will fix this.

Lynx- Led by their fearless leader Blowfly, have somehow made it into League A. Aside from blowfly they are mostly comprised of noobs who can't tell their ass from a hole in the wall. 101st had once carried the lesser Lynx members to league A only to toss them aside like a red headed stepchild. Now due to luck and Darkpie's outstanding play, they have a chance to compete with the big boys.

If you're taking current activity into account, I don't see how [20] is ranked 4th. They're basically just Sze, Odin, and Psy at this point unless Fridge is actually back.

Send me a clan that can beat this - nobody plays team-games like 20. Even with lots of inactive players, they are easily the most skillful:

Guiroma: Sze, Psy
Strat ME SR: Odin, Psy
Szeurope: Sze, Odin

EU SR: Sze, Psy, Odin
EU WR: Sze, Psy, Odin

But you are right, I suppose it is hard to rank the top 5-10 clans without bias. Knyte - this is your calling.

Edited 12/27/2015 05:07:06

20 still doesn't lose games like everybody else.

THIS IS 20
--> https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9528023

Who says one edge case with a boot decides the entire skill of a clan? And they said you are smart, Norman.

Edited 12/27/2015 05:23:21

Boot decided this game? What, come on... they got booted because they forgot to commit after 2 days 23 hours.

When I write "This is 20" then please read this in the tone of "This is Sparta" please.

Good read. Hit the nail on the head with Illuminati. Though our clan will always be gaining new players and jettisoning old ones so 'Lots of Changes' will be there for awhile.

I said its a game with a boot, never implying that the result of the game was because of a boot. Apparently your bot has more logic than you...

Edited 12/31/2015 09:19:52

You are a good boy Benjamin628, looking up to your heroes. However when you look closer and actually watch the games you see lots of bullshit going on when those shiny heroes play. As I played the 2v2 ladder I took the time to look into the games of my opponents / into the games of other contenders for number 1 spot. Without following victory for example the Master guy wouldn't have achieved rank 1: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9917204

Thanks for the analyze Benjamin! i think you did a great Job. Maybe some Players would put some Clans about one rank higher or lower, but i really think you managed to make an accurate Picture of the actual Situation.

to norman: there is so much cheating/stalling on the ladders that i think you should give those Teams/Players credit who recieved their rank a fair way. there are boots. they might have lost that game, but it wasn't over and one guy got booted. end of the Story.

@Da Vici I have seen a lot come from Phaeril, Ze & Niko, but you and Wazz seem to be the best two. Yes, now I understand that I rated 20 way too high. Yin Yang and M'Hunters are probably around 3 spots better than what i rated them.

Edited 12/27/2015 05:47:43

Edited 12/31/2015 09:20:23

Yes Norman, they won a game on a boot. They MAY have not been ranked number one, but frankly who cares. It's the damn 2v2 ladder, ALMOST universally accepted as a bad template.

As for kissing up to "My Heroes", I don't understand how that is relevant in this case at all. Some warlight players who are much better than me are not my heroes.

I can be your hero, baby...

make a funny thread then

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/5248-bad-warlight-jokes

However when you look closer and actually watch the games you see lots of bullshit going on when those shiny heroes play. As I played the 2v2 ladder I took the time to look into the games of my opponents / into the games of other contenders for number 1 spot. Without following victory for example the Master guy wouldn't have achieved rank 1:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9917204

I get what you're trying to do here. You want to prove that you are the best. But you don't need to belittle everyone else that plays the ladder.

I honestly couldn't give a fuck about the rank 1 on any ladder if it's through stalling or cheating. I've been ranked 1 numerous times on both the 1v1 and RT ladders for half a day and not received that golden trophy most people seem to so desperately covet. Do I want to be the best player? Of course I do, but cheating and stalling your way to success is not my style.

I play the 2v2 ladder because I have a good time discussing strategy with my team mate and we are great friends. The banter alone makes it worth while.


The specific game you brought up was against Ottoman Emperor who has since retired from the game(at least that's what we were told on our clan chat). He also booted from many games and not just the one you linked to. Honestly, if we knew what Bjarke's income was, I'd have surrendered even after Ottoman's boot.

Here's all the games he booted, it's a pity you didn't "look closer and actually watch the games".
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10019247
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10035036
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10019246
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10025735
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9965618
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9971996

You want to prove that you are the best. But you don't need to belittle everyone else that plays the ladder.

Nope, not this time. I just wasn't happy about Benjamins "the little finger of 20 can beat everyone". When they play competively they win some games and lose some games just as everybody else. No free 20 pass giving them an auto win.

Edit:
If I wanted to belittle someone I would have to attack Ragnarok however sadly he outplayed me fair and square and I learned my lesson.

Edited 12/27/2015 06:41:19

Didn't I say to Da Vici (also the founder of 20) when he tried to be constructive that I misranked them?