It is a good map and a fine template.

The games were a bit all-or-nothing, but a couple were interesting. Good commentary/humour guys, was fun to listen to: ps bitching about the template and stuff in general :-) , motd "never!", and mod is a great supporter of newb players.

I really enjoy your shows guys. They are a really great thing for the community. I rarely watch TV, and even less so sports/competition shows, but I find myself looking forward to tuning in each week, or at least watching the recorded stream afterwards. Thanks for organizing them and putting them on.

I have some ideas about ways our Optimum clan can help streamline things like perhaps automatically re-creating tournaments with larger or smaller sizes. It will take a bit of work but I don't think it will be that difficult really, and based on what seems to happen a lot each week, I think it might save you guys a ton of hassle. No promises for when, tho... :-( We'll let you know when we get something working.

PS: ps (ha, a pun), and motd (and mod too, if you want!), if you haven't already, we would love to have you join our clan (with an alt if you like) so that you could at least see what we're working on and provide feedback if you have any. And of course you could also help out if you have time, but it's not a requirement! If you're interested, let knyte (https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3022124041) know.

Optimum is for losers!

Thanks for the nice feedback and offer. I will consider it :)

^ That means no ;)

No, it means i will consider it. When i mean no i can say it too

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Cool, mod, thanks. I think Fleecemaster is just teasing. :-) I'm hoping to start working on this little tool starting tomorrow, and with any luck we might have something working by the next WGL; but no solid promises yet! :-) It will be very simple to start with, and if you guys find it useful we can add more features to it and streamline the whole thing. I'll post here or on the next thread with more info as things develop.

Don't worry mod, we'll do all the work and make sure you get all the credit ^_^

you can invite my "Don't hurt me" alt / bye account to Optimum if you want.

i mentioned on the clan creation thread that i wouldn't mind being added to the github group to check what you're cooking and give some feedback but got no response. i assume what you're doing is opensource on github.

i don't want to join a clan with my main account, it's a personal stand thing.

also i still think it's silly to create a clan for mod development.

ps is too good for clans.

yep

Thanks for the feedback! If only ps could do some Russian to go along with his French :P

As for your offer, I don't like to manage alt accounts(only use them for team games). If you have some chat game which you guys use to communicate you can add my main account and I'll definitely provide any feedback I can. If you use skype, that works too.

who says i can't do russian!?!

just no one asked yet!

in soviet russia accents do you.

you can invite my "Don't hurt me" alt / bye account to Optimum if you want.

i mentioned on the clan creation thread that i wouldn't mind being added to the github group to check what you're cooking and give some feedback but got no response. i assume what you're doing is opensource on github.

i don't want to join a clan with my main account, it's a personal stand thing.

also i still think it's silly to create a clan for mod development.

Sorry ps, I guess we missed that somehow. I sent a PM to knyte as a reminder about your earlier comments and asked him to invite you (as your alt).

knyte is using github, yes. I've never signed up on github yet, but I presume I will quite soon. Everything will either be open source or at the very least of some liberal 'community' type of license. Not entirely decided yet, but the intention is certainly to be very open, so I'm guessing we'll end up with some open source license. Just need to iron it out.

Re: having a clan for it. Well, technically, the clan is not *only* for development. knyte originally had in mind a more complete clan including players and mentorship for game play. But currently we're focusing on dev to try to get some sorely-needed tools up and running. We've already added one or two non-devs, so it's not an exclusive thing.

As for how it's working out, I think it's kinda nice to have this clan space where we can discuss dev openly without cluttering the main forums. And because we're mostly a bunch of devs, the brainstorming and discussion has been very productive in generating and sharing lots of potentially good ideas. Still too early to say yet, but I'm getting more and more enthused as we go. :-)

At some point soon, we will probably set up a more public space, such as a separate web page or forum where anyone can join/view discussions and see what we're working on more visibly. But for now the clan thing is just convenient and 'good enough' for our little projects and brainstorming. We're still roughing out the basics for now. :-)

BTW: I'm not a native French speaker, but from what I can tell, your accent was really really good. I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference between a native French and your accent. Also, you're in Portugal, right? But your normal accent doesn't spark any memories of other Portuguese accents I've heard in the past (not that I've heard that many, honestly, so maybe I just don't know them that well), so I'm curious if you're native Portuguese, or perhaps an immigrant there? Sorry if this is offensive to ask, no offense intended; honestly, when I first heard your accent when speaking English, it most reminded me of a few friends I had from Bulgaria -- one friend in particular, you sound almost exactly like him from what I remember, though your voice is slightly deeper. If I'm wrong, then it is still quite interesting that his accent and yours would sound so similar; I wonder why that might be. Maybe some sort of similarity between the languages, though that seems like it would be a pretty weird coincidence. Anyway, just thought I'd mention it after your French accent performance, which was very well done and funny too.

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Thanks for the feedback! If only ps could do some Russian to go along with his French :P

As for your offer, I don't like to manage alt accounts(only use them for team games).

Understandable. I'm glad I didn't need to set up an alt myself, I would find it bothersome too.

If you have some chat game which you guys use to communicate you can add my main account and I'll definitely provide any feedback I can. If you use skype, that works too.

I think it was JSA (alt JSA2) who suggested to set up a chat game soon, so we may do that soon. Thanks.

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you're missing out on insight from other devs that lurk on forums (and possibly even fizzer himself) on your discussions, having it public would be much more beneficial imho. some people still go through the old CLOT threads to get some info for example.

as for my accents and nationality, i am native portuguese, i'm just good with accents so i don't have the portuguese on my english, i enjoy adding accents other nationalities now and again, for comic relief, just learned from movies and foreign friends.

i just want to add my hatred for chat games. keep popping up on my games list even after i declined, takes forever to load the backlog chat and simply games were not meant to be used as message boards. i understand the limitations of the mail system not being able to add and remove people dynamically, but ffs, mailing list on mailchimp or group chat on skype please.

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for reference, this is my alt account that can be invited to optimum.

it's currently suffering an evolution of name changes to list "haddaway - what is love" lyrics on the historic to annoy the living crap out of everyone who checks the profile all the way down, not being able to get the track out of their heads for a few hours. call it an art project if you will.

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I f'ing love that song! Whooah ooh whoah ooh whoah ooh ah whoah ooh, oh whoah ooh ah whoah ooh, whooah oohhhh!

you're missing out on insight from other devs that lurk on forums (and possibly even fizzer himself) on your discussions, having it public would be much more beneficial imho. some people still go through the old CLOT threads to get some info for example.

I basically agree with this, but again, at this point we're still just roughing it out. We don't have much to show right now, and when brainstorming something more or less from scratch, it's kinda reassuring that one's dumber ideas don't get thrown into the spotlight and ridiculed to death; it allows room for more 'free' brainstorming and experimentation, for example.

We will definitely make stuff more public when we have something to show for it.

i just want to add my hatred for chat games. keep popping up on my games list even after i declined, takes forever to load the backlog chat and simply games were not meant to be used as message boards. i understand the limitations of the mail system not being able to add and remove people dynamically, but ffs, mailing list on mailchimp or group chat on skype please.

I'll bring that up when the topic comes up again. I would probably get annoyed like that too.

I've sent an invite to No more- thanks for the notification, wct. There is an open-source project on GitHub associated with Optimum but most of the discussion/etc. is happening within the Clan Forum; I'm publishing what I'm working on onto GitHub, however, although it's currently a couple version behind what I'm testing locally. https://github.com/warlight-infinity-project

PM me on here or on GitHub if you would like to get invited to that group. I'd really love having more activity in the GitHub Group than on the Clan Forum.

hmmm... didn't receive anything O_o