I don't understand him. Really, I don't. He is in the 1v1 ladder and active yet gets booted on turn 0. Why doesn't he leave the ladder or just surrender during turn 0 since it seems he wants to lose anyways

Dear opponent,

Surrender.

From, your Victor.

Now that is just being arrogant Fleece, I do believe if you are winning then there is no need to tell your opponent to surrender, esspecially in a multi-day game.

You do however get people who stall and will be on base income and still not surrender despite there being no chance of winning. If you are playing someone like that then again, it is best to not tell them to surrender. If someone is crazy enough to stall and know they can't win then they will take offense to you asking them to surrender.

Asking your opponent to surrender is pretty much a lose-lose situation.

I did suggest to Frizzer a few years back that he should implement some sort of declare where warlight reads out your income to your opponent so that your opponent knows that you have a much larger income than them.

Glad to see I'm not alone, haha. I am a pretty stubborn person in general and I don't like to lose (who does?). Also, my FAVORITE victories, in any game, are come from behind wins. I know this game doesn't have a great come back mechanic, but it doesn't mean it can't happen.

I tend to play several turns after I think I've lost. If my opponent tells me to surrender after that point I typically do. The problem is when my opponent tells me to surrender before I've even decided I'm behind. In those cases I generally force them to play the entire match (while still trying to win, not just running around the board).

"Gg."

- 4 turns before winning-

"BJ"
-4 turns before sex-

Honestly, I don't care if you're winning or losing. (I've done it myself.) Its truly rude, and an arrogant thing to do.


Even if you just say "Surr-der" its still implying the same fracking thing @Bayern Munich Is Best!

Im in the camp of never surrendering just because its obvious im gonna lose (i lose most games). its still valuable to keep playing. Who knows? he might slip up and give you an opportunity. If anything, its another chance to learn something new.

but of course stalling just for the sake of pissing off the other guys isnt cool either. You have to play it by ear. if everyone else is yelling and screaming for you to just 'gg' yourself to oblivion or else theyll... dear god... Blacklist you (the horror of never having to play with someone thats angry at you again is too much for one man to handle), then by all means chill out, gg, and gtf-on with other games. not like youre limited to one game at a time.

I think stalling the game is a bad habbit but:
Make someone surrender to you without beeing offensive is ok to me. Even if he haven't lost yet.
This is part of off board gameplay... tricking the opponent is part of war... but I am seeing this from RP player's point of view

Edited 12/10/2015 21:17:49

it is bad sportsmanship. also i hate it when people tell me they are bored of the game and tell me to surrender because they are winning. if they are bored they should surrender

I'll usually just post my income and ask if the game needs to continue.

also i agree with bane i never surrender