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#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 10:06:45


Belgian Gentleman 
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Thread number 7

Previous threads:
1st thread: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/36972-good-news-diplomacy-lovers
2nd thread: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/56701-discontinue-continue
3rd thread: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/58622-place-22k-map
4th thread: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/46940-new-name
5th thread: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/92426-m-back-penguins
6th thread: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/110609-penguins-nao

17 months harsh work. A project that spans more than a year. I even almost had given up.


"Your map got rejected"


I'm dead.

" bonusses are too small to fit numbers "


Well that was the only way to make it ! I've tried anything , from holes to colour coding. This was the only decent methode I could do to let it work. That was the only working option.

I suggest this is the end for https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=48289

Some people have said to me that it is the most beautifulest map ever. Well sadly enough for them...



But I'm not giving up now either! Well at least some people saw this coming so I prepared me!
I'm doing a petition on user.voice.net ! vote here: https://warlight.uservoice.com/forums/77051-warlight-features/suggestions/10559214-allow-diplomacy-world-huge-to-get-published

Please let this be an exceptional map, because exceptional quality maps deserve exceptions.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 10:39:06


Dublin Warrior 
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I'm sorry, but you should cut it up and make several maps.
It's just too busy and overwhelming. :-/
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 10:43:50


Lolicon love
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also i don't like how Ulster is called northern Ireland even though it has counties belonging to the ROI in it.

Edited 11/5/2015 10:44:21
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 10:49:41


Belgian Gentleman 
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Which counties?
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 10:50:21

wct
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Normally I root for the underdog, but this map is crazy hard to read. I hope you find another solution, since the concept looks good, though.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 11:17:34


Nogals 
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wow, thats huge. I like it though
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 15:10:23


MightySpeck (a Koala) 
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... really? just make circles. do you not think that the numbers on top of those numbers won't look weird. and also just because they say what the bonus is doesn't meant someone will change the bonus amount.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 15:39:58


knyte 
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The yellow numbers aren't helpful and often confusing (11 = N?).
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 15:46:07


Riveath
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I feel terribly about this... I mean, you've surely put hours of work into this map.

That's really bad for you. And for all of us to not be able to play this great map.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 16:15:37


Zephyrum 
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OH, COME ON, FIZZER.

Let it slide once in a lifetime ffs.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 16:29:27


knyte 
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It clearly took a lot of work, but I don't agree that it's a good map. You can't even properly play it on mobile due to memory + the need to change colors if just one player has yellow.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 16:57:28


Belgian Gentleman 
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I'm sorry, but you should cut it up and make several maps.
It's just too busy and overwhelming. :-/


I've mailed Fizzer if he would reconsider. If he denies than I'm going to make seperate maps.



... really? just make circles. do you not think that the numbers on top of those numbers won't look weird. and also just because they say what the bonus is doesn't meant someone will change the bonus amount.


- Numbers are less confusing than a colour code (I did a colour code once, it was not that good)
- Average bonus squares or circles can't be placed due their large size which makes them rather unplayable:


It clearly took a lot of work, but I don't agree that it's a good map. You can't even properly play it on mobile due to memory + the need to change colors if just one player has yellow.


-Its capacity is 1.8k which is considerably low for a huge map (comparable to Pennsylvania which is 2.4k) but it's just the quantity of bonusses that makes it harder to load
-Very bad idea to play huge maps with more than 2300 territories on a mobile device + most people who do roleplay or diplomacy games usually play on a computer.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 17:07:38


knyte 
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Have you tested it? Do you have any game links?
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 17:24:30


Belgian Gentleman 
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I've deleted the test games so no I can't retrieve the links anymore.

But I had a couple of test games. Several ones where I played against the AI and one with the guys who volunteered themselves on this thread: https://www.warlight.net/Forum/110609-penguins-nao

Edited 11/5/2015 17:26:12
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 20:02:32

wct
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Perhaps I'm missing something, but isn't this all supposed to be vector graphics anyway? Why can't everything just be scaled up or down so that bonuses fit? What's the point of vector graphics if you can't scale them?
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 21:12:30


OnlyThePie
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While I was a big fan of this map, I can see why it was rejected. It has no bonus-alteration abilities, making it rather difficult.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 21:37:08


Zephyrum 
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What pie said actually makes sense, just thought about that.

How sad, though. Hopefully flemish gentleman will split it. New europe diplo map would be great :D
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/5/2015 22:18:14


Belgian Gentleman 
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You can spot an altered bonus by colour.

If a bonus has a yellow border it's unedited
If a bonus has a white border it's edited.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/6/2015 11:39:57


xXOmegaXx
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Maybe so, but you still have to hover over it to find out the edited amount.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/11/2015 01:32:52


NinjaNic 
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What if you renamed each TERRITORY to show army amount. For example:
Houston
becomes
Houston = 13 Armies
(or something like that.)


Eh... I guess that would take forever.

Edited 11/11/2015 01:34:17
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/11/2015 03:02:21


Lord of Turnips
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I really hope that it gets published.


IN Australia I recommend the name changes of the following regions:

Dubbo - Burke
Singleton - Inverell
Coober Pedy - Simpson Desert
Roxby Downs - Coober Pedy
Finally, Sunshine Coast - Noosa
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/11/2015 03:02:21


Жұқтыру
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It's also hell if you want to change boni.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/11/2015 03:03:20


Lord of Turnips
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I don't see the point of changing all the bonuses and if you want to just change some of them you could use control f and search for the name.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/12/2015 16:52:19


Lukku
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Yeah it sad if it does not get published. It must be over 20-50 hours work in there possibly more.
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/12/2015 22:11:13

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So your map was rejected but this one wasn't? https://www.warlight.net/Play?PreviewMap=9175
#LetDiplomacyHugeGetPublished !: 11/12/2015 22:26:36


OxTheAutist 
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That map is amazing. Don't judge it >:(
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