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Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 11:26:57


master of desaster 
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There is an option to create free open tournaments when there is no other open tournament available on the tournaments page.

That solution is bad. There were already before 1vs1 tournaments with strange settings that took weeks to fill with 32 players only.

I don't want to say the actual tournament has bad settings, but how could it fill when not even the creator of the tournament is willing to play on it. Many players won't join it also because there was a drama about Ra, who stole fridges map (or something like that).

My question is, if open tournaments could be deleted by someone except the creator, if they don't fill within a certain time or even when they got not an x-amount of players joining in every week to speed up that process.

The actual tournament is up for hours and still has not one single player who wants to play in it. What's your opinion?
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 11:32:41


Krzysztof 
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agree. Also, i think creator should be forced to play in tourney he created
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 11:42:55


Ƨillynamenace
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In the case of this particular tournament, I think why people are reluctant to join is because it is multi-attack tournament.

I don't think that most people are aware about the "drama about Ra".

I don't disagree with the other things you and Krzychu say, though.
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 11:44:22

huddyj
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I think it would be good for free tournaments to only be allowed on regulation coin templates (earth 1v1, small earth 1v1, etc.) with coin settings. This will mean more people want to play, and less problems over map/settings.

Edit: Strategic ladder settings should be allowed, too.

Edited 10/28/2015 11:50:48
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 11:55:19


Ƨillynamenace
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Sorry, maybe I haven't observed the things as good as you do, but is there a real problem with Free OT's?

Maybe what is happening now with Ra's tournament is an exceptional thing? No? How long does it take for a Free OT to start? Too long? Is this often the case?
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 12:49:51


master of desaster 
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It depends what you consider as real problem. The open tournaments are just clearly missing their purpose at the moment. There are hardly ever more than 1 open tournament up at a point. Only those who are free to create.

it would be better for fizzer if there were more of it, but since the last few of them had weak settings, they filled very slowly too, causing even less income of coins trough tournaments.

The actual tournament isn't the reason i make this post. It's just a good example for a tournament nobody wants to play. The reason for Ra creating that tournament is to promote a map. But tournaments that will never fill up in an acceptable time due to special or weak settings should be deleted again and allow other players the possibility to create a new open tournament for free
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 13:40:18


Ƨillynamenace
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But tournaments that will never fill up in an acceptable time due to special or weak settings should be deleted again and allow other players the possibility to create a new open tournament for free


Yup yep, I agree.

There's a separate problem with the coin tournament system that needs to be addressed. It concerns the non-free tournaments, so it's not directly related with MoD's points. But I'll take this chance to voice them here, because I think it still has some relevance to the topic (indirectly).

Fizzer wanted to do two things while implementing the new tournament system: He wanted to earn money, and he wanted to tidy up the "open tournaments" feature of WL by discouraging players from creating T's. About the first, I don't have much to say - let him earn money, cool. About the second: The way he discourages the players is to make the hosts put a lot of coins at stake, while creating a tournament. Do the math and you'll see easily: If a host wants to create a non-free tournament, the only way for him/her to make profit (WL coins-wise) is creating a 1v1 T and become the champion. In team tournaments, the best the host can get in the end (on the condition that his/her team is the winner) is an amount of coins that does not compensate for the creation costs (because the revenue is divided among the members of the winning team). This is so, because the other contestants do not pay an amount that is comparable to that of the host.

The alternative would be to make all contestants pay a larger entry fee, and removing some of the creation cost from the host. I'm sure Fizzer has already considered this and I'm pretty sure he didn't prefer to go for this alternative: because it would encourage players to create more coin tournaments, not discourage them from doing so - and it would make the open T's page a mess again, probably (which we know nobody wants).

The problem (for Fizzer): This really tidies up the open T's feature, but it clashes with Fizzer's intenion to make money. Because less coin tournaments means WL earns less money, at the end of the day.

The problem (for the WL community): Players are encouraged to host free OT's, with settings that may not interest enough number of players in a given amount of time. (This is the point that is indirectly relevant to this very topic.)
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 15:10:19


RA 
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@MoD: vllt könntest du mir zuerst eine mail schicken und wir hätten das schnell und ruhig geregelt...aber nein, statdessen führst du dich wie eine ungezogene hure und laberst ohne ende. Und die settings sind nicht seltsam oder schwach oder noch irgendwas, da waren ein paar dutzend test spiele und ich hörte nur positive feedbacks.
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 16:14:48


Min34 
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vllt könntest du mir zuerst eine mail schicken und wir hätten das schnell und ruhig geregelt...aber nein, statdessen führst du dich wie eine ungezogene hure und laberst ohne ende.

His problem is that he wants to prevent this in the future. Only mailing you wouldn`t prevent shit in the future would it now ;)

Also MoD said the following about this already: "The actual tournament isn't the reason i make this post. It's just a good example for a tournament nobody wants to play. The reason for Ra creating that tournament is to promote a map. But tournaments that will never fill up in an acceptable time due to special or weak settings should be deleted again and allow other players the possibility to create a new open tournament for free"

Und die settings sind nicht seltsam oder schwach oder noch irgendwas, da waren ein paar dutzend test spiele und ich hörte nur positive feedbacks


MoD said this: "I don't want to say the actual tournament has bad settings"

Did you even read the thread before posting here, RA?
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 16:54:59


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@Min34: Ja ich habs gelesen. Und hier ist was ich sehe: That solution is bad, strange settings, tournament has bad settings, not even the creator of the tournament is willing to play on it, Ra stole fridges map, Many players won't join it.

Zu viele negative aussagen. und für was?
Und es wird genau das gegenteil passieren. fünf leute sind schon drin und es werden mehr kommen.
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 16:59:01


muddleszoom
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the mane problem is it is harder to join torneys on mobile
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 17:06:44


Ƨillynamenace
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the mane problem is it is harder to join torneys on mobile


I rarely use the mobile app but as far as I know, it's not just "harder" to join them - it's impossible. There's no access to tournament pages on that app.

And yes, it's also a big problem - you're right.
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 17:21:48


master of desaster 
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You got access on almost everything on warlight if you use the app and a browser.

I never wanted to imply that Ras map or the template were bad.
As i said before you're not the reason why i made this thread. No matter when i would write it, someone would always feel butthurt.

Don't you believe honestly that it's not ok to just create a coin tournament for free and not even joining it yourself (i know, now you did)? There could be made many improvements on that aspect of the game. Don't take it personally, i won't take your insults personally too. Just read what i said from some difference and think about it.
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 17:32:51


Jefferspin 
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We all need to insult MoD more.
Free open tournaments: 10/28/2015 18:04:46


Fleecemaster 
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MoD is bae.
Free open tournaments: 10/29/2015 08:03:03


master of desaster 
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Yes bring it! I can handle all of you!
Free open tournaments: 10/29/2015 12:45:21


Beren • apex 
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MoD, you're as bad as Jefferspin! oooh burn!
Free open tournaments: 10/29/2015 15:36:16

Ollie 
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i am not sure if thats more of an insult for MoD or Jefferspin...
Free open tournaments: 10/29/2015 15:38:40

Ollie 
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agree. Also, i think creator should be forced to play in tourney he created

That is a pretty bad idea. That would make it impossible for people like Chris to set up clan league or Frank to do the promo/relegation league
Free open tournaments: 10/29/2015 15:45:51


master of desaster 
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Only talking about those specific free-to-create open tournaments. All leagues and stuff are invite only anyways.

Edited 10/29/2015 16:02:23
Free open tournaments: 10/29/2015 15:53:16

Ollie 
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can you say that in english pls? :)
Free open tournaments: 10/29/2015 16:03:00


master of desaster 
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I corrected the 2 typos. Hope you can read it now.
Free open tournaments: 11/1/2015 11:41:52


Ƨillynamenace
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The same free OT is still there, waiting for players.

I gave a second thought on MoD's suggestion of the cancellation of the tournament, unless it starts in a certain time. Well maybe we don't need such T's to be deleted, but they can turn to non-open T's: private coin T's, so to say.
Free open tournaments: 11/1/2015 12:06:38


Jefferspin 
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I'm too drunk to feel insulted.
Free open tournaments: 11/1/2015 14:35:06


master of desaster 
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so there have joined 7 Players in more than 4 days. only like 17 more days till a fully advertised and small 32 Player tournament starts when Players Keep joining at this speed. i'm sure it will go even longer. When the interests on a tournament is so low, it should be deleted to make space for another tournament that will start sooner.
Free open tournaments: 11/4/2015 00:25:00


Fleecemaster 
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If you want an open tournament up just let me know (PM) and I'll host one for you :)
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