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Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 06:24:29


Ryuuji 
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http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/264978pusher.jpg

Read the boxed text.

This should be banned asap.


Edit : The problem here is not the insults, it's the fact a player uses 2 (or more ?) accounts to give himself unfair advantages by playing in both teams such as : troop positioning, team tactic, bonus players are going after, income, etc...

Link to the game : https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=9626446

Link to user john22 (purple in the game) : https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4154291663
Link to user RecMart (blue in the game) : https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9252543257

Edited 10/13/2015 08:51:13
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 09:46:33


Latnox 
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Ryuuji - Although WL staff do not encourage unfriendly behavior, it is not something, that result in baning player. If you don't like his way of addressing you or others, just blacklist the guy, and move on.
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 16:56:36


Ryuuji 
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I did blacklist them, but this shouldn't be allowed.
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 17:34:40


muddleszoom
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its not in the rules so you can't ban him
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 18:52:20

Hennns
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open game, click on him->report. There's no reason to put this on the forums.

Edited 10/12/2015 22:08:44
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 21:15:09


Chafram
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I know it's just a game, but I can't believe you just don't care about this. It's obviously a cheater who will ruin the fun for fair players.
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 21:33:57

MrHymen
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Why shouldn't it be allowed? I see no mass negative connotation here.

@Chafram Ok, how are they a cheater?

Edited 10/12/2015 21:34:29
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 21:51:30


ps 
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reading the chat it seems like you provoked it aswell, not all fault on him. i don't see it as paticularly offensive either, just heated discussion. you should blacklist and move on, avoid playing with people you don't like speaking with.

edit - oh wait, the pm is not from the team mate talking on chat, so you're actually saying it's same guy playing on both teams? that is a more lawful reason to get banned.

Edited 10/12/2015 21:54:37
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 21:56:09


Riveath
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That's what I understood. The guy is multi-accounting, with each account on the other team. That's a reason to report him.
Pusher detected: 10/12/2015 22:06:37

wct
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Same guy playing on opposite teams under an alt is allowed? Sounds like cheating to me. Was it a ranked game?
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 00:42:38


Chafram
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Yes, it was a ranked game! Same guy playing on both teams. Like a noob (blue) on one team and normally (purple) on the other team. Ryuuji and I don't care about the insults and the language. We only care about the fact he knew exactly where his only 2 real enemies were at all time and he wasn't even trying to win with us, but rather to win with his other account.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 01:00:13


Piet
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Obnoxious, but not wrong. I don't get why this forum is here.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 03:49:09

wct
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I think people reading this should take a second look at the screenshot. It's nothing to do with language, it's to do with what the players (plural) say about 'attacking yellow', and who is saying it. They are the same person, using an alt to try to rig the outcome of the game by playing on both teams.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 05:15:49


Ryuuji 
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Maybe I should have pointed with other colored boxes that they were two different names (accounts) played by one person.

Playing a ranked game with accounts on both teams offers completely unfair advantages as knowing troop positioning, team tactics, what bonus people are heading for, income, etc...

As stated, I was not asking a ban for insulting purposes, as 50% of the players here find the need to do so either by ego or just to be a jerk, but more because this is clearly a push tactic and that it ruins the game.

I "provoked" him... indeed i said he was an ass on his starting spots, so he was.
We told him not to take those and explained why but he didn't give a fuck and lost in a matter of 3 turns to his opponent. In addition he told me what to do when he clearly couldn't do anything himself. (Except cheating)

Edited 10/13/2015 05:16:16
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 05:44:53


Chafram
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You should edit your first message since some people read it and comment and ignore all the other messages.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 06:54:22


Dublin Warrior 
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Yes, using alts to win games is definitely illegal.
Nice catch!

Can you link us to their profiles, and to the game so that they don't change their names?

Edited 10/13/2015 07:00:05
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 07:01:29


Chafram
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Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 08:51:27


Ryuuji 
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Main post edited.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 09:11:01

inquisitor
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http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/264978pusher.jpg

Read the boxed text.

This should be banned asap.


You should have included the game link.
It is hard to understand what you complained since you just pasted the image without much explanation.
And the title is "pusher detected", rather than "alt detected", so it looks like you complained about the players being rude and pushy.

Purple and yellow are in the same team. But purple betrayed his team and asked the enemy to attack yellow. Even if we exclude the alt issue, he is playing against his team. It is punishable for this reason alone.

Two breaches of rules:
Playing with an alt in the same game (cheating)
Purple playing against his team

Have you reported them yet? You should explain clearly in your report.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 09:44:28


Ryuuji 
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I didn't know pushy existed, to me a pusher is someone who push (boost) one of his accounts (usually main one) with other accounts he don't care about.
It's used for over a decade, so I assumed it was a known word and expression.

I should have put more information, I recon that, wich I did btw.
I have reported them, but on demand I put it on forums aswell.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 09:59:53


Footsoldier
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There is really nothing to explain about something obvious!

A simple view on the screenshot allows to see exactly what this player did. I hope he is going to be banned soon...
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 10:24:08


Vormulak
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YOU LEAVE RECMART ALONE. I LIKE RECMART, lol I have had him blacklisted for a long time because he did the same shit in my matches a month ago.

Edited 10/13/2015 10:26:03
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 11:42:02

inquisitor
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I didn't know pushy existed, to me a pusher is someone who push (boost) one of his accounts (usually main one) with other accounts he don't care about.
It's used for over a decade, so I assumed it was a known word and expression.


I'm not a native English speaker. My Oxford dictionary says a pusher means someone who sells illegal drugs, but it does not fit the context.

Generically speaking, it could simply mean someone who pushes. Push can mean someone tries hard to persuade someone to do something that they may not want to do. They pushed you to attack yellow, so I think it was what you meant when you referred them as pushers. I don't know there are other meanings.

It would be great if a native English speaker says a few words on this.

I have reported them, but on demand I put it on forums aswell.


Good. I hope the developer would investigate and take the necessary action against cheaters, but it looks like the developer is not keen on taking them down.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 11:46:20

inquisitor
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There is really nothing to explain about something obvious!


It may be obvious to you, but you could see clearly some people did not get it when the poster initially posted an image without much explanation.

People usually skim the post. It does not hurt to give more explanation. It reduces the chance of confusion and misunderstanding.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 14:35:23

E Masterpierround
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As a native English speaker, I have never heard the term "pusher" or "pushing" in this context. However, I haven't ever come across a term for this exact scenario, mostly because there are very few games I play in which you can gain an advantage by multi-accounting. I have heard of the term "boosting", however this is usually used to describe someone who is either playing with a hacker (but not hacking themselves) or playing with a much better player on a low ranked account. Either way, they are using someone else to carry them through games. In this case, I would use the terms "multi-accounting", which doesn't fully describe the situation, or "self-boosting", to imply that they have been using themselves (on a different account) to gain an unfair advantage in their games. The only problem with this is that it doesn't immediately make it clear that this is illegal, but in the context of Warlight, it should be clear that it isn't allowed.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 14:46:02


Bayern München is the best!
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How can he write,sign out,sign in get into the game and write again for 50 seconds?
And too,his next comment was :11:03
Thats done by you and your friends.

Edited 10/13/2015 14:47:54
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 14:55:59


Richard Sharpe 
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How can he write,sign out,sign in get into the game and write again for 50 seconds?


Seriously? This can be accomplished easily by a number of methods. One can easily be signed into both accounts simultaneously either through PC and mobile client, multiple browsers or incognito mode. Trivial matter.
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 15:00:11


Bayern München is the best!
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It can't be. I tried now.
Maybe you realized I'm right and shutted up?

Edited 10/13/2015 15:19:48
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 18:44:56


TBest 
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Challenge accepted!
Pusher detected: 10/13/2015 18:44:58


TBestLittleHelper
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Challenge won!
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