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Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/2/2015 13:41:04


INSIDE 
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Time to update the spreadsheet? The Strat ME tournament is finished.
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/3/2015 22:55:37


Benjamin628 
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Two times I've tried to post this and it deletes...


------Win Rates------
1. VS         | 79%
2. Yin Yang   | 74%
3. AWF        | 69%
4. Juggernauts| 53%
5. Olympus    | 45%
6. Poon Squad | 42%
7. Darklords  | 4%


Edited 11/4/2015 20:30:09
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/3/2015 23:21:28


ChrisCMU 
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^win rates aren't really who is leading though (it is just a good indicator of performance). Max Points should be used to rank everyone.
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/4/2015 02:08:41


Inactivia
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Woah, Olympus fell like a rock.
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/4/2015 02:51:51


Great Expanse 
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@ChrisCMU Max points are helpful though misguided in my view. I am happy to see Illuminati with the highest max points and be 1st for our division though we are running fourth and 30 points behind the leader in points.

Edited 11/4/2015 02:53:43
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/5/2015 03:50:30


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ranking by max points would mean a team who played 20 games and lost 2 would be ranked lower than a team who played 1 game and lost it. Win percentage is probably the simplest reasonable way to rank teams. Although this doesn't take the heavier weighting of team games into account, so maybe the percentage of points won so far out of the points that could potentially have been earned (i.e. points the team would be on had they won every game they have so far played) Would give the best way to rank teams during the tournament. For example, a team who have won 3 1v1's, but lost a 2v2 and a 3v3, would be ranked (3*3/3*3+4+5)=9/18=50%
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/5/2015 21:46:35


DarrenDieHard 
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I agree with Hades. Best ranking system until tourney is completed is percentage of points won vs max points possibly won.

Max points is not even the second best option. Second best option would be straight win percentage (which is what they use for ranking leading team in NBA, MLB, etc). Max points might be good the third best option.

But in any case...loving the spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_ZjU7Au3iliShLR3aXLHthEIWWbpsEZ1rU5ctbCecCQ/edit?pli=1#gid=709777770

DK

Edited 11/5/2015 21:48:16
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 02:33:57


Benjamin628 
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Okay there is essentially a three way tie for first place.

Rank by Max Points - VS are first.
Rank by Points - AWF are first.
Rank by Win % - VS are first.

Yin Yang is second in every ranking I think.

Since I am bias, lets rank by points:

1. Appalachian Warlight Federation - 109 Points
2. Yin Yang - 105 Points
3. VS - 102 Points
4. Olympus - 60 Points
5. Juggernauts - 57 Points
5. Poon Squad - 57 Points
7. DARKLORDS - 7 Points

Updates for each clan:
- AWF, with a Guiroma tournament win, a guaranteed podium spot on Battle Islands, tied for 1st in Turkey, likely 1st or 2nd in Strat ME 0%SR, have pulled ahead of VS and Yin Yang on points. If their Europe teams can get 1 tournament win and a second or third place, we may have the win.
- Yin Yang are maintaining a steady second place in every ranking, and if Nagato can beat jz, they will likely add a second tournament win under their belt.
- VS, the favorites to win this league, have fallen from guaranteed win, to "pick up the pace". Maybe winning Strat ME 0%SR would help them reclaim their spot as undisputed victors.
- Olympus, suffering from activity, only have winning records with Chronos or Hades.
- Juggernauts play slow, and are in fourth on max points.
- The Poon Squad has made an interesting comeback, but still only have 4 winning records.
- This clan, whom I will not name, has more unique alts of Chris and I playing for them (That will get booted), then actual players. Shame on you.

Edited 11/7/2015 02:53:58
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 04:22:34


BanaNa
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DARKLORDS in clan league 7 be like:
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/7/2015 12:46:30


Ζεύς
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Good luck Hades and the team hopefully Phobos will have some time to play, good luck would all other teams :).
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/10/2015 01:32:24

Ninja:)
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Damn I lost the 1v1 lol
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/20/2015 18:49:52


DarrenDieHard 
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Anything happening here? Any updates on results?
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/24/2015 16:44:31


Benjamin628 
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Home Sick -> Update Time!


Clan League Division D2 is 81.17% Completed

Possible Finish |  Clan Name  | Points | Max Points | Win Rate | Games Left |
     1st-4th    |     VS      |  150   |     206    |  81.13%  |     13
     1st-5th    |  Yin Yang   |  137   |     182    |  69.64%  |     10
     1st-5th    |     AWF     |  135   |     173    |  67.24%  |     8
     1st-6th    | Juggernauts |  65    |     158    |  45.45%  |     22
     2nd-6th    |   Olympus   |  71    |     152    |  44.68%  |     19
     4th-6th    |  Poon Squad |  74    |     126    |  38.89%  |     12
       7th      |  DARKLORDS  |  11    |      25    |  04.76%  |     3


1st - VS have maintained a strong lead, and AWF and Yin Yang will have to win around 85% of their remaining games to win the season.
2nd/3rd - Yin Yang and AWF are fighting for that second place spot, which means absolutely nothing.
4th/5th - Juggernauts and Olympus are playing slow, but require VS losing all of their remaining games to get first place, which would mean Yin Yang winning some more, and thus Olympus cannot get 1st place.
6th - Poon Squad's Max Points are too low for them to get a podium spot.
7th - DARKLORDS have not completed any games with full teams, their only wins are from the other teams getting boots, or autowins.

Edited 11/24/2015 16:47:33
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/28/2015 02:16:18


Benjamin628 
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Clan League 7 Division D2 is 84.85% Completed

Well this is very nearing the end. VS is guaranteed a podium spot, even if they lose the rest of their games (not many). AWF & Yin Yang continue to brawl for second, with Yin Yang taking the lead. Second place is possible for AWF if we win the rest of our EU games (very possible).

Olympus, Juggernauts are playing pretty slow, but are almost for sure 4th/5th.

The Poons, slightly behind the two above clans, can still edge out 4th or 5th, but very unlikely (Would need to beat AWF + YY in EU twice).

Edited 11/28/2015 02:21:10
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/28/2015 02:24:51


Legacy 
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In the meantime, the glorious DANKLORDS will be fighting to achieve a 5% winning percentage!
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/28/2015 13:33:24


Φιλώτας 
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But your contribution to this was vital! 24 defeats! You managed to ridicule four tournaments.
embarassing
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/28/2015 13:40:21


Benjamin628 
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^ All boots I think.
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/28/2015 15:21:56


Φιλώτας 
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And all made on purpose, obviously! I even doubt that the darklords ever informed about the clan league, not that I care about how they organize their clan - that is their problem - but announcing participation only to make fun of a specific group is disrespectful to other participants. I wouldn't accept kaparovs participation in any upcoming event if I was in charge
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/28/2015 15:48:42


shyb
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i thought the same thing for a minute, but i don't think kasparov is to blame. im only assuming his motives (showing that darklords are a joke) and i don't agree with them, but even if my assumption is right his role in this didn't really create problems.

he actually joined all his tourneys, so he didn't make chris' or ben's job harder. if darklordio cared at all about cl he had every opportunity to field a competent team. no one really participated except mr hymen, so it's not like kasp is responsible for them losing. yeah, if i was in kasparov's position i would at the very least play my games out of principle, but i can understand why it wouldn't really be worth it anyway.

there's really only one person to blame for shenanigans and that's darklordio. if he didn't want anything to do cl he should have said something and not let others represent his clan. im pretty sure he could have told chris "darklords will not be participating" and no one would have been able to field a darklords team. it's obvious darklordio didn't care what happened, just look at his results in the minor league tourneys. i didn't check cause im too lazy, but im guessing all those losses were boots.
Clan League 7 - Division D2: Official Thread: 11/28/2015 22:52:57


Legacy 
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And all made on purpose, obviously! I even doubt that the darklords ever informed about the clan league, not that I care about how they organize their clan - that is their problem - but announcing participation only to make fun of a specific group is disrespectful to other participants. I wouldn't accept kaparovs participation in any upcoming event if I was in charge


Here, I'll go ahead and disprove that.


https://www.warlight.net/Discussion/?ID=108830 named "Clan League & Dev League Lineups", in which I included every player who was invited to the lineup except Darklordio, who at the time was corresponding with me in a DARKLORDS chat game.




Obviously you can't see the mail thread, but ChrisCMU can confirm its existence if needed.

Let it never be said that the DARKLORDS were not informed that they were participating. I made it as clear as I could.


[edit] I'd also like to say that I deliberately chose the most active clan members, at the time, that I could find.

My apologies to the DARKLORDS clan for not playing my games for them. At the time, I had to go completely inactive to deal with some issues in real life.

Edited 11/28/2015 22:59:04
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