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Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 10/27/2015 06:41:50


Pushover 
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GROUP B
his balls. (4-2)
Falker (4-2)
Orange (3-2)
Mirror (3-2)
Tenshi (2-3)
Metatron (1-3)
Frankdeslimste • apex (0-3)

Mirror loses another game, this time to Falker. This means the winner of the group must have 2 losses. So here is where it gets weird... if both Orange and Mirror lose their final games, then his balls wins the group with Falker placing second. But if Mirror wins, Falker wins the group on second tiebreaker and Mirror places second on head to head. If both Mirror and Orange win, then Falker wins the group with Orange taking second. If Orange wins but Mirror loses, the group will be decided based on Tenshi's and Metatron's remaining games vs Frank. Madness I tell you!

GROUP C - FINISHED
Timinator (5-1) - WINNER
Pushover (4-2, 1-0)
Master Turtle (4-2, 0-1)
Beren Erchamion (3-3)
[WM] Old Surehand (2-4, 1-0)
Master Atom ◆Elite◆ (2-4, 0-1)
Bigchps147 (1-5)

Timinator manages to avoid giving Frank a headache by beating both Turtle and Beren, the latter in 30 turns!! Congrats to Timinator for winning group C.

GROUP E - FINISHED
Master of the Dead (5-1, 1-0) - WINNER
Verzehrer (5-1, 0-1)
Darkpie (3-3, 1-0)
Ollie (3-3, 0-1)
Dr. Walter Ego (2-4, 1-0)
ps (2-4, 0-1)
Wenyun (1-5)

Darkpie has defeated Wenyun! This dooms both Wenyun and ps to relegation.

GROUP F
ChrisCMU (7-0) - WINNER
Don [ Ω ] (5-1)
Polakillo (4-2)
[NL] ARand0mPlayer (2-3)
BlacKnight (2-4)
[REGL] bobbob000 (1-5)
ChristophU (1-5)
NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex (0-2)

Noobschool finally finishes his first two games, and they both end in losses! ChrisCMU goes undefeated to win group F! Don will take the second guaranteed promotion spot if NoobSchool loses one more game (including a matchup with Don)

Edited 10/27/2015 06:42:24
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 10/27/2015 13:06:53


Beren Erchamion 
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My game vs. Timinator was quite interesting I think. I panicked a bit when I realized that he had expanded in West Russia, and that probably was the turning point, but it was a fun game.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 10/27/2015 13:19:20

Dr. Walter Ego
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Darkpie is my Hero!
He is not only a simple black food like the Black licorice or Coffee, no. He rather is similar the Ambrosia!

But do not sit back my sweet dark cake but even please convince Frank to change the move order from random to cyclic in the next season, because without it I won't be invited and everybody will be very sad that won't be a doctor in the league :(

I know you can convince him because you are a Hero!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 10/27/2015 14:29:10


Jefferspin 
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Yea I liked the Timi v Beren game.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/3/2015 05:45:21


Deadman 
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Time for an update Push!
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/3/2015 06:53:32


Pushover 
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Psh just for you MoTD. Like 3 games have completed since last update

GROUP B
his balls. (4-2)
Falker (4-2)
Orange (3-3)
Mirror (3-2)
Tenshi (2-3)
Metatron (1-3)
Frankdeslimste • apex (1-3)

Frank beats Orange, which dooms Orange's hopes for promotion and keeps Frank's hopes to avoid relegation alive. Frank needs to win both his final games to avoid relegation. Same goes for Metatron and Tenshi. Meanwhile, if Mirror loses against Metatron, then his balls wins the group on head to head. However, if Mirror wins, Falker wins the second tiebreaker of the 3 way tie, and his balls will fail to promote due to having lost to Mirror.

GROUP F
ChrisCMU (7-0) - WINNER
Don [ Ω ] (5-1)
Polakillo (5-2)
BlacKnight (2-4)
[NL] ARand0mPlayer (2-4)
NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex (1-2)
[REGL] bobbob000 (1-5)
ChristophU (1-6)

Noobschool has won a game against ChristophU, and Polakillo finishes the season with a win. There is a possibility for a 3 way tie for 2nd place if Noobschool wins all his remaining games.

Edited 11/3/2015 07:09:16
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/13/2015 08:35:36


Pushover 
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wanted to update while i was still thinking about it so thread replies don't get locked

GROUP B
his balls. (4-2)
Falker (4-2)
Orange (3-3)
Mirror (3-2)
Frankdeslimste • apex (2-3)
Metatron (1-3)
Tenshi (2-4)

Frank beats Tenshi! One more win against Metatron and Frank avoids relegation. Tenshi's only hope of avoiding relegation rests in Metatron beating Frank and losing to Mirror, which enables a tiebreak scenario that Tenshi comes out on top of (by virtue of beating Falker). This mean Metatron must win both his final games to avoid relegation, and Frank must win to avoid relegating himself.

GROUP F
ChrisCMU (7-0) - WINNER
Don [ Ω ] (5-1)
Polakillo (5-2)
NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex (2-2)
BlacKnight (2-4)
[NL] ARand0mPlayer (2-5)
[REGL] bobbob000 (1-5)
ChristophU (1-6)

Noobschool wins another game, this time against ARand0mPlayer.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/19/2015 06:54:18


Pushover 
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GROUP F
ChrisCMU (7-0) - WINNER
Don [ Ω ] (5-1)
Polakillo (5-2)
NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex (2-3)
BlacKnight (2-4)
[NL] ARand0mPlayer (2-5)
[REGL] bobbob000 (2-5)
ChristophU (1-6)

Noob lost a 3rd game to bob... he booted but noob was loosing when he did boot. The hell is this guy doing picking a wasteland?? The loss means Don finishes second, and Noob can't finish better than 4th.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/19/2015 17:02:59


ThePop(P)e_(o)(o)
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i want to join next season
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 07:21:32


Pushover 
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GROUP B
Falker (4-2) - WINNER
Mirror (4-2) - 2nd
his balls. (4-2)
Orange (3-3)
Frankdeslimste • apex (2-3)
Tenshi (2-4)
Metatron (1-4)

Mirror has beaten Metatron, which results in a three way tie for first place, broken by the final tiebreaker; basically, the player who has beaten the highest ranked players outside of the tie wins the tiebreaker. his balls and Mirror have each beaten Frank, Tenshi, and Metatron, while Falker has beaten Orange, Frank, and Metatron. So to resolve the tie, we compare Tenshi against Orange - and because Orange finishes ahead of Tenshi, Falker wins the final tiebreaker! Meanwhile Mirror snags the remaining promotion spot by beating his balls, and his balls remains stuck in B next season.

So the final game of the group is between Metatron and Frank. If Frank wins then Tenshi and Metatron will relegate, obviously. If Frank loses, there is a 3 way tie for last place, and again it comes down to the final tiebreaker. The wins outside the tie would be, Frank: Orange, Tenshi: Falker, Metatron: Orange. Therefore if Metatron, wins, Tenshi is the one who avoids relegation! Unfortunately Metatron's latest loss dooms him to relegation.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 10:32:23


Onoma94
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May I join for the next season?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 13:03:30


Dutch Desire 
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I was booted at the first 2 games at turn 1 :S
I step out the league for next season.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 15:50:52


ChrisCMU 
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So right now games remaining:

B - Frank vs Metatron
F - BlacKnight vs Noobschool


Is it possible to post promotions and relegation's now? We know that if Metatron wins, Frank is relegated and if not Tenshi is relegated. Neither Noobschool or BlacKnight will finish in the bottom or top 2 in F.

That means groups next season should be (THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL WORD, JUST IMO)...

Group A
Krzychu
Jefferspin
FlyingBender
Timon
grona
Falker
Mirror

Group B
Ineffable (drop and replace with Master Turtle?)
Master Miyagi
his balls
Orange
Frank/Tenshi
Timinator
Pushover

Group C
Frank/Tenshi
Metatron
Master Turtle (replace with Marachel?)
Beren
Old Surehand
Master Bjarke
rocky1

Group D
Master Atom
Bigchps147
Marechal Lannes (replace with Ollie?)
JV
Ferede/smilyleg/Andersault (demote and replace with Darkpie?)
Master of the Dead
Verzehrer

Group E
Ferede/smilyleg/Andersault
Ferede/smilyleg/Andersault
Ollie (replace with demoted Ferede/smilyleg/Andersault?)
Darkpie (replace with Polakillo?)
Dr Walter Ego
ChrisCMU
Don [ Ω ]

Group F (8 players currently)
ps
Wenyun
Polakillo (promote with Ineffable drop from B and dominoes after?)
ARand0mPlayer
BlacKnight
Noobschool
Master of desaster
linberson

Group G (6 players currently)
bobbob000
ChristophU
almosttricky
Oh Noes
Taisho
Pexito
Stormers

Group H
Auroch
Great Expanse
J0twe
Glorious Koala
butterfly94
USA Biches *super promotion from J
Buns157 *super promotion from J

Group I
MightySpeck
indibob
Benjamin628
awsomeusername
Hades
The Cruelest
Indiana Jones

Group J
ColonelCardwell
Gimli
Hostile
Kain
Arkanton
SAM
Fleecmaster

Group K (8 people)
Platinum
Des
ipg
Ryzys
Cat Juggernaut
Chewie
Jack
Bayern Munchen

Group L1+ (new players)
AWESOMEGUY
mslasm
kirdol
huddyj
Angry Koala
Masterpierround
zanbato
tojam2
PhucilliJerry
jz
ThePop(P)e_(o)(o)
Onoma94

Not sure how you are sorting out the 3 way tie at the bottom of D.

My recommendation on A would be to drop Ineffable (I have not heard from him in months, he may not be coming back). If you do this, then promote 1 extra player down to group F, and you take care of the issue with 8 players in F.

Since G has 6 players, I suggest only relegating 1 as 4th and 5th were 2-3 and 6th was 0-5 (seems like a good delineation line).

Since H only has 4 players (and my suggestion is to only drop 1 from G), don't drop anyone there (already have 4 promotion slots available).

I did J as overall records across all J divisions, not sure how Frank will handle that.

Edited 11/24/2015 15:58:47
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 15:56:27


ChrisCMU 
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So if you want to demote all in the 3 way tie AND drop Ineffable, you could put the 3 way people in E and bump Ollie and Darkpie up to D. Master Turtle would take Ineffable's spot in B and Marachel would take his spot in C. Polakillo would get promoted from the 8 person group to fill the other spot vacated by Ollie and Darkpie getting promoted. I will make my edits in the post above to make it clearer.

This would make all groups 7 players except L

Edited 11/24/2015 15:59:43
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 16:01:47


Master Turtle 
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I like Chris's idea.... Unfortunately I'm with Timinator for like the 3rd or 4th straight season lol
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 17:08:13

talia_fr0st
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When will the new thread start?
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 17:43:37


Deadman 
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I thought I just shook off that group of death. Would bloody suck to have all of them in my group again :P
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/24/2015 17:50:55


ChrisCMU 
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to be fair, once you are in the top 4 divisions it will be very competitive. I mean look at frank or Tenshi getting relegated.
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/25/2015 16:24:05


Pushover 
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NoobSchool has 2 games left, not 1

Orange dropping out affects the promotions and relegations a lot, also our assessment of whether Ineffable is active or not. I agree with you Chris, we should probably remove him. I got a private mail from him on the 15th saying "sorry will be off for a while" and he is currently playing no games. But it's Frank's decision.

The rule Frank tends to use for promotions is that group N gets #1 and #2 from N-1, then #1 from N-2. But as dropouts mount, it gets more holistic... obviously we want to avoid promoting losing records and such.

Frank won't even consider promotions and relegations until he's done stalling the league lol

Edited 11/25/2015 16:26:51
Promotion/Relegation League Season 17: 11/25/2015 16:50:17


Prabster Realm
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Can i join
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