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A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 13:59:00


Green 
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I've never seen the ladder this competitive, with over 200 players participating and almost 150 ranked players many players have suffered a massive ranking loss. This has lead to some of the big names we are used to seeing in the top 30 or even 20 on the second page. The top of the ladder looks to become equally competitive with Dreamer, apr and Ko all gunning for the top spot.

The intensity even seems to have scared experienced players Arun and players like Motocross off!

Your thoughts?
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 14:10:31

Dom365 
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I think the *free* points for the top 30 is an incentive for good players.

Furthermore, better players leads to a higher quality ladder, and a higher quality ladder attracts higher quality players, in turn leading to an even better ladder. Essentially, it's an upward spiral!

It's excellent though - a really good challenge.
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 14:19:36


Motocross5800 
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I just left because i want all my games to expire. and while they are expiring, i will try to get better at Strategic 1v1, then when all of my games expire, i will try to get in the top 50 or so.
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 14:40:15


Min34 
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I hoped to get into the top 30 of the ladder, but this competition is quite strong (and i ruined a game I should have won :p) so I think I`ll have to adjust it for now.
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 14:47:16


Green 
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I completely agree Dom, I'll have to get my act together and start practising.

It's only unfortunate that all of this will die down with the end of the summer...
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 15:56:17


Pink 
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looks like we found the first good thing points brought, and its member exclusive: more competition in the ladders
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 16:16:25

Dom365 
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To emphasise the competition:

The top 9 of the ladder are over 2000 rating, and 10th is 1997! That's spookily good!
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 16:23:03


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Well as more and more people buy memberships, they join the ladder. In my early ladder days I was around 100th (very near last :D) Now I have reached the top 70/60 with 200 players in there :)
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 16:23:43

Dom365 
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But equally, as time passes, people drop out of the ladder..
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 16:25:46


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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True - the time of year is an important factor. Also looking at rankings there are only 146 ranked players.
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 16:46:26


Pink 
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once i saw a ball which

Edited 9/3/2013 17:22:56
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 16:47:50

Dom365 
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Possibly. Indeed, I made that point immediately in the first reply. But whatever the reason, the quality level on the ladder has risen immeasurably recently!

Edited 9/3/2013 16:48:38
A Tough Ladder: 9/3/2013 23:19:48


Green 
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A ladder milestone: I believe this is the first time the first three pages have been completely filled? 150 ranked players.

Edited 9/6/2013 12:03:11
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 00:44:06


Z-Dog 
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Last time I tried the ladder (4 or 5 months ago) I made it to 24th place with a rating of 1775. I rejoined a couple of weeks ago and managed to get a higher rating (1789 right now) but only I'm ranked 39th. The ladder is more competitive than i've ever seen.
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 01:27:27


TheWarlightMaster 
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tell me about it.... im all the way in 18th now XD
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 02:40:43


Master Miyagi • apex 
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[WM]doggy is in 78th! Just let me into WM now! :D jk doggy was a boss on the 2v2 ladder with trillussa
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 02:52:03

Qi 
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the ladder is an obese middle-aged man. the middle is heavier bit the top is the same. ask dead foxy. he can rejoin and after 15 games he'd be back to familiar territory: #1.
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 03:13:13

Seahawks 
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motocros sno one f***ing cares about you, this is about the ladder, not some subaverage player that left the ladder
EDIT: to clarify, everyone elses storys are about their expereince of how it is harder, you seem to think it is waaaaay easier

Edited 9/4/2013 03:14:20
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 03:27:37

JSA 
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Gotta agree with Gui. The new players are mostly bottom and middle. There are only 20-25 guys I would consider very good on the ladder currently, and that's about how it usually is, ranging from 15-25 depending on the time of year.
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 03:33:15


Wenyun 
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To be honest the ladder has gotten easier for me, too, as the surge of players joining the ladder is preventing me from getting 1800/1900 rated people now.

That being said my ranking (as well as everyone else's around me basically) has gone down 10+. :/ Surely, there's a lot of competition now, but if you're outside the competitive range nothing has changed except your rank just shot up 10+.

There should be a lot more quality games with higher-skilled players being matched up against each other more often, though, so there's plenty of content to look over if you're bored :3
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 03:48:00

Jehovah 
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a rating of 2k cant get you into top 10, the ladder is getting competitive. :)
A Tough Ladder: 9/4/2013 05:29:39


[中国阳朔]Chaos 
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Top 20 are still all old-timers.
Atm, there is hardly any chance for new players to enter top 10 and stay there for a while, the experience gap is too big. Given time, this will change though.
There's a few players that can easily take back #1 if they'd care enough.
However, it's great to see a rise in popularity and this will be a lot of fun for any active player.
A Tough Ladder: 9/5/2013 15:27:53


ChrisCMU 
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The 2v2 ladder is odd. Pulsey/Gruffalo win 8 in a row and they don't get a matchup with any team in the 1800s? That seems odd to me. I guess maybe because there are so few active teams with an 1800 rating? How does the formula decide matchups?
A Tough Ladder: 9/5/2013 15:52:27

Jehovah 
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damn it, i really want to play pig and qi
A Tough Ladder: 9/5/2013 16:30:39


Green 
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I think it should improve now that there are more players getting rankings..
A Tough Ladder: 9/5/2013 20:47:50

JSA 
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What I see most of you fail to realize on this is that rating at a ceartain time does not equal skill, ranking shows much more. With more people, the ratings get exagerrated and that is why there are so many people with higher ratings than they should have.
A Tough Ladder: 9/5/2013 20:52:03


Green 
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Congrats to abr who has achieved 1st in the 1v1 ladder!

Now, where will Ko turn up?

Edited 9/6/2013 08:00:56
A Tough Ladder: 9/5/2013 22:23:22


ChrisCMU 
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How does ranking show more JSA? They are 4th on the ladder and the best team they beat was rated 1776 (I think that was the number at the time), and lost to a team ranked 13th.

I'm not saying they are not good, but they have not been tested hardly at all.
A Tough Ladder: 9/6/2013 02:46:12

JSA 
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Chris, what are you talking about? I speak of the 1v1 ladder, I could care less about the 2v2, the 2v2 for the most part is teams coming in and leaving right away. The top 10 seem to usually be the same people but with different teammates. Very few teams stick together longer than five months that I have seen.

Ranking > Rating at a high level
Everyone's rating is getting inflated right now with so many new players joining, most are 50-150 players and can't compete at the top. I see 2 that have joined in the last month or so that are around top 20 now. 7th place now is about the same as 7th 6 months ago. In fact, 6 months ago was even stronger I think, but back then, there were only about 3 guys rated above 2000, in fact, one player in the top 10 was below 1900. The competition was stronger then than it was now. So to me, rating is not very important.
A Tough Ladder: 9/6/2013 03:00:52

Jehovah 
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and... me and gruff left the ladder :)

have fun everyone.
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