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What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 20:41:02

JSA 
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I'd like to hear some opinions from other people. I'll give you my definition when I hear some others, I'd especially like to hear the opinions of clan leaders.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 20:50:40


Z-Dog 
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For me, a clan is just a group of players with a similar level of skill to play with/against. Maybe I should look into joining another one...
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 20:55:04


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Without clans, there could be no clansluts.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 21:01:30


NecessaryEagle 
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From my perspective (kinda skewed/biased) I see clans as a way to network with other players, associate with a group of players that you like and are of a similar mind to, have a group that you can rely on (more or less) in games, give more options for creating and joining new/fun games, etc.

On the other hand, some benefits are clan-specific, rather than being universal. For example; REGL has our own website, which includes features like live-chat and forums. These things aren't for everyone, but can be pretty useful for those who wish to participate.

In conclusion, I think the biggest meaning taken from being in a clan is just having a group of people you like and play with, and having a way of identifying with each other, both among yoru group and within the WL community as a whole.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 21:09:01

Jehovah 
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What happened to goodbye forums
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 21:30:27


Mudderducker 
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Well there are quite a lot of reasons:
1. It enables players to be able to team up with others more easily, as you can trust them, you will know them and it makes it more fun.

2. It's a way of getting more involved on warlight. You get invited to more Leagues, Tournments, games and you get more involved with the community.

3. Gives players a chance to learn from others while playing with and against. As some people say you learn the most in a clan.

4. It makes you want to play the game for longer (bad thing) as you have a team your part of.

5. Overall you get a lot of fun out of it, that's the biggest reason why there's clans, in my opinion.

Some reasons why I set up my clan: 1. I couldn't get into others
2. I wanted to be able to team up with people more easily. 3. I wanted to get more involved on warlight and get invited to more things. 4. Have more fun playing. 5. Cause i like leading ;)
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 21:48:38


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drama
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 21:49:22


Master Miyagi • apex 
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Hello forums,

Miyagi think clans are a group of players(usually friends) who play well together and have fun together! Miyagi says clans are about having fun with people you like while improving your game!

On a side note Z-Dog masters would be interested in having you aboard!
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 21:59:01

JSA 
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Thanks for your opinions :) They are similar to mine.

My perspective on clans is this. I can play with players of a similar skill level and can team up with them and know they will play good and won't get booted. I like getting to know players better and enjoy playing with many different players.

So this brings me to my point, why is it bad to be in multiple clans according to some? I think it is based on perspective. I personally switch clans often because I like to play with players I don't know very well and like to get to know them better. Being in a clan with them is an easy way to get to know them. That's my opinion of why I join clans: getting to know other good players.

Some clans don't agree with my view of clans, which I understand. They value loyalty to the clan and want you to only be a part of their clan. Some clans don't care how many clans you are in because they are more about playing with good players than loyalty (WG used to be a great example of this, I think they have started to become a clan where loyalty is the most important factor, which is not a bad thing, just not ideal for players who share my opinion.)

I was surprised all the hate I was getting from switching to one more clan. I have truly been a part in 4 clans now: [P], [WG], Apex, and [WM]. I feel very happy with each one I have been in and have gotten a lot out of each(well not [WM] yet but I am sure I will :)) Going back to the hating on me, why did it just start once I joined the 4th clan, why not the 3rd? I have heard at least 6-7 people call me a clan slut or make obvious they disapproved of me switching clans. But did you know that before I joined [WM], I heard only one player make a comment about the clan hopping, and he trolls me nonstop. So what I see is that many people in the forum jump on the bandwagon and don't think for themselves. I hope this can change in the future, I'm fine with the clan slut comments, I don't feel like there is any problem with it. I just hope that you all can learn to think for yourselves and try to stay off of the bandwagon. Just because everyone else is saying something, doesn't mean you should too.

Thanks for the time, JSA
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What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 22:08:46


The Magician
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you think to much. Obviously they just hate you cause you make all the clans that they can't get into.

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What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 22:22:57


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I was surprised all the hate I was getting from switching to one more clan. I have truly been a part in 4 clans now: [P], [WG], Apex, and [WM]. I feel very happy with each one I have been in and have gotten a lot out of each(well not [WM] yet but I am sure I will :)) Going back to the hating on me, why did it just start once I joined the 4th clan, why not the 3rd? I have heard at least 6-7 people call me a clan slut or make obvious they disapproved of me switching clans. But did you know that before I joined [WM], I heard only one player make a comment about the clan hopping, and he trolls me nonstop. So what I see is that many people in the forum jump on the bandwagon and don't think for themselves. I hope this can change in the future, I'm fine with the clan slut comments, I don't feel like there is any problem with it. I just hope that you all can learn to think for yourselves and try to stay off of the bandwagon. Just because everyone else is saying something, doesn't mean you should too.


I can't hear what you're saying with all that clanmeat in your mouth, clanslut.


CLANSLUT!!!!
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 23:27:48


Wenyun 
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Going back to the hating on me, why did it just start once I joined the 4th clan, why not the 3rd? I have heard at least 6-7 people call me a clan slut or make obvious they disapproved of me switching clans.


By leaving apex, you incurred the wrath of X. And that is a very bad thing.

Besides, [P] to [WG] was essentially a reboot of the same clan, just with a more "pro" feel to it. [WG] to Apex: "Some clans don't care how many clans you are in because they are more about playing with good players than loyalty (WG used to be a great example of this...)". Apex to [WM] is complete and utter betrayal, clanslut.

Aside from that Miyagi's post and EagleBlast's first/last paragraph said basically what I would have said.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/1/2013 23:50:02

Seahawks 
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P to WG, same thing, WG to APEX, still a part of WG, and they are fine with that, LEAVING BOTH TO WM, utter betrayal, makes no sense, just trying to say was once a part of apex wg and wm, CLANSLUT
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 00:06:34


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I really don't understand leaving a clan unles you are not happy with your current one. All clans are similar in their ability to communicate (I should hope so) and the only reason I think you should switch clans is if you are not satisfied with the one you have currently.

Elitist clans will always be a STAIN in my mind....thank you Elite for making that possible. Therefore arguments involving switching elite clans are utterly worthless and have become invalid. (Hint, Hint)


And btw are you still clan leader of WG?

I think you might have mentioned that, but that was the time I quit the forums...too much ____ in the forums at that time.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 02:00:14

Qi 
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Clan threads = Sunday mass for the initiated.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 02:01:13

Jehovah 
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srsly, i thought the clan slut was leaving...
told you guys his vow would last 2 seconds

Edited 9/2/2013 02:02:02
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 03:01:19

JSA 
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2 seconds? I'm pretty happy I lasted about a week. I can't go without using the forums, especially with the new update. I just won't bother with threads that I don't care about.

I was never clan leader of [WG], ChrisCMU has always been leader, I originally helped form it, but I didn't want to start a new clan to abandon [WG], and figured it'd be more of a betrayal to [P] if I led [WG]. Chris did a good job as leader, he has made [WG] one of the strongest clans in the game. If you remember, it started with me, Lolowut, Chris, and Reza, so it has improved quite a lot. And I look at [WG] as a democracy, everyone in the clan votes on new members, but Chris has the most power, but it is not unlimited if that makes sense :)
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 03:34:32


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I don't know or care about the purpose of clans. BR is just a long-living group of funny brazillian players. Basically, we exist to connect players inside our own community. We have games everyday, based from strategic to crazy FFAs, and a lot of respect and friendship, with guys ranging from 12yo to 40yo.

But a clan system/ladder would be awesome. I see it like another type of tournament. So clans would be "elite" groups focused on competitions.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 10:00:03


Gnullbegg 
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Some clans don't care how many clans you are in because they are more about playing with good players than loyalty (WG used to be a great example of this, I think they have started to become a clan where loyalty is the most important factor, which is not a bad thing, just not ideal for players who share my opinion.)


Now where do you get that from?

If you remember, it started with me, Lolowut, Chris, and Reza, so it has improved quite a lot.


It seems [WM] is bad for memory.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 10:15:05

Jehovah 
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Gnullberg, whats with this sudden hostility towards your old clan leader?

I'm suddenly am a fan of you. <3
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 10:20:48


GGGnullberg
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maybe we should go eat some ice cream together sometime
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 12:35:37

JSA 
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Gnullbegg, I belive you were the 5th member added to the clan, I don't remember you being there right at the start, maybe your name threw me off because you used to never include [WG] on your name until recently. Could be wrong though, you might have been added before Reza.

Pulsey, I was never clan leader of Gnullbegg, he was never in [P].
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 12:38:50


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Clanslut's such a clanslut, he can't keep track of all his clan partners. I'm surprised he can even remember the number of clans he's been with.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 12:40:04


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So the actual question was "why do people call me clanslut" ?

People will always complain/nag/troll about whatever you do, grow some balls.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 12:41:16

JSA 
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powerneg, maybe you should reread my posts. I clearly state I have no problem being called a clan slut since there is no true meaning behind it.
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 14:30:10


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now that wl is a social network, clans are just one more way to meet friends... that way you meet players you can add to your friends list even if you have never played with them. AMAZING!
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 17:23:53

Widzisz • apex 
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I was surprised all the hate I was getting from switching to one more clan.

Obviously people treat clans differently than you do, so don't be surprised that you might annoy them.

Personally, I have no problem with you leaving our clan, switching from one to the other, or being in more than one clan at the same time, if you want. No hard feelings from me (or just a little). I'm just quite surprised and upset. Hope you have fun in WM.

BUT! You really should give a notice that you are going to leave (I wasn't sure if you left until last week), and explain why you leave. To be honest, I still don't understand your reasons.
I can't recall any other players leaving a clan just like that, without any issues with clan or clan-mates.



Back to topic:
Most benefits (aka reasons) of a clan aren't clan-exclusive, clans just make some things easier and faster.
Being in the clan also makes you more recognizable, and you look as good as your clan; it works like a brand label.

I had a long break from WL (about 6 months), and when I was back, many people that have never played nor talked with me before, assumed that I'm good (few of them still think I'm), few invited me to some games, simply because of " • apex".
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/2/2013 17:57:48


Master Miyagi • apex 
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Hey I was one of those people! hehe miyagi had thought you were amazing because other people said you were not cause of apex
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/3/2013 03:51:34


ChrisCMU 
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No, gnull was one of the original 4. Obviously the three of us formed WG, but gnull joined right away. The four of us were it for a while. We played the clan league with only us four. Gnull and I tied for first place in group B. check my profile, the tournament is there
What is the purpose of a clan?: 9/3/2013 09:02:30


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JSA, I have nothing against you, but I'm having a go at what you've been saying.

I clearly state I have no problem being called a clan slut since there is no true meaning behind it.


The online Oxford dictionary defines a clan as:
1. a large family
2. a group of people with a strong common interest

and slut as:
1. someone who has had several casual sex partners
2. dated someone with low standards of cleanliness
(switched woman out for someone for obvious reasons)

Many clans, be it WL or otherwise, put a high value on loyalty, whereas a "slut" will show less consideration for it. Put those two together and you have someone who "has several casual clans" well...you can see where I'm getting at. It has a very true meaning and many people are showing an obvious distaste for the way you clan hop. You would be more accurate in saying that you don't care if people think you're a clanslut, instead of saying it has no true meaning.

I feel very happy with each one I have been in and have gotten a lot out of each(well not [WM] yet but I am sure I will


...and that's how porn starts. You make it clear here that you use clans for your own benefit and yet you show little compassion towards your former clan mates...moving on when it suits you best.

You really should give a notice that you are going to leave (I wasn't sure if you left until last week), and explain why you leave.


While Widzisz (sorry for using you as a referrence, Widzisz) also said he has no problems with you leaving, he said he was upset that you left without warning, not even bothering to explain yourself or give a farewell address (you always need a farewell address man).

I don't want to quote your whole post where you shared your opinions on what clans are for so I'll just mention this: clans will inherently turn to loyalty after an elapsed period of time (this time varies from group to group), because it's human nature. Those who show they don't care for or are otherwise incapable of it attract distrust. My argument so far being: Loyalty -> Trust, Disloyalty -> distrust. Disloyalty -> Negative attention (i.e. Clanslut)

I was surprised all the hate I was getting from switching to one more clan.


Really?...but that's just commonsense. People put up with it for awhile, but you pushed your luck :P

Again, nothing against your personally JSA, but I wanted to get that out there.
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