maybe we should go eat some ice cream together sometime

Gnullbegg, I belive you were the 5th member added to the clan, I don't remember you being there right at the start, maybe your name threw me off because you used to never include [WG] on your name until recently. Could be wrong though, you might have been added before Reza.

Pulsey, I was never clan leader of Gnullbegg, he was never in [P].

Clanslut's such a clanslut, he can't keep track of all his clan partners. I'm surprised he can even remember the number of clans he's been with.

So the actual question was "why do people call me clanslut" ?

People will always complain/nag/troll about whatever you do, grow some balls.

powerneg, maybe you should reread my posts. I clearly state I have no problem being called a clan slut since there is no true meaning behind it.

now that wl is a social network, clans are just one more way to meet friends... that way you meet players you can add to your friends list even if you have never played with them. AMAZING!

I was surprised all the hate I was getting from switching to one more clan.

Obviously people treat clans differently than you do, so don't be surprised that you might annoy them.

Personally, I have no problem with you leaving our clan, switching from one to the other, or being in more than one clan at the same time, if you want. No hard feelings from me (or just a little). I'm just quite surprised and upset. Hope you have fun in WM.

BUT! You really should give a notice that you are going to leave (I wasn't sure if you left until last week), and explain why you leave. To be honest, I still don't understand your reasons.
I can't recall any other players leaving a clan just like that, without any issues with clan or clan-mates.

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Back to topic:
Most benefits (aka reasons) of a clan aren't clan-exclusive, clans just make some things easier and faster.
Being in the clan also makes you more recognizable, and you look as good as your clan; it works like a brand label.

I had a long break from WL (about 6 months), and when I was back, many people that have never played nor talked with me before, assumed that I'm good (few of them still think I'm), few invited me to some games, simply because of " • apex".

Hey I was one of those people! hehe miyagi had thought you were amazing because other people said you were not cause of apex

No, gnull was one of the original 4. Obviously the three of us formed WG, but gnull joined right away. The four of us were it for a while. We played the clan league with only us four. Gnull and I tied for first place in group B. check my profile, the tournament is there

JSA, I have nothing against you, but I'm having a go at what you've been saying.

I clearly state I have no problem being called a clan slut since there is no true meaning behind it.

The online Oxford dictionary defines a clan as:
1. a large family
2. a group of people with a strong common interest

and slut as:
1. someone who has had several casual sex partners
2. dated someone with low standards of cleanliness
(switched woman out for someone for obvious reasons)

Many clans, be it WL or otherwise, put a high value on loyalty, whereas a "slut" will show less consideration for it. Put those two together and you have someone who "has several casual clans" well...you can see where I'm getting at. It has a very true meaning and many people are showing an obvious distaste for the way you clan hop. You would be more accurate in saying that you don't care if people think you're a clanslut, instead of saying it has no true meaning.

I feel very happy with each one I have been in and have gotten a lot out of each(well not [WM] yet but I am sure I will

...and that's how porn starts. You make it clear here that you use clans for your own benefit and yet you show little compassion towards your former clan mates...moving on when it suits you best.

You really should give a notice that you are going to leave (I wasn't sure if you left until last week), and explain why you leave.

While Widzisz (sorry for using you as a referrence, Widzisz) also said he has no problems with you leaving, he said he was upset that you left without warning, not even bothering to explain yourself or give a farewell address (you always need a farewell address man).

I don't want to quote your whole post where you shared your opinions on what clans are for so I'll just mention this: clans will inherently turn to loyalty after an elapsed period of time (this time varies from group to group), because it's human nature. Those who show they don't care for or are otherwise incapable of it attract distrust. My argument so far being: Loyalty -> Trust, Disloyalty -> distrust. Disloyalty -> Negative attention (i.e. Clanslut)

I was surprised all the hate I was getting from switching to one more clan.

Really?...but that's just commonsense. People put up with it for awhile, but you pushed your luck :P

Again, nothing against your personally JSA, but I wanted to get that out there.

That's pretty much it. It was bad enough the first time, where you abandoned the clan you created to make another elite one. I didn't see why you couldn't create an elite division. Then you just carried on, and on, and on. If I ever chose to join another clan (which I wouldn't - as a clan leader I feel I should be loyal, perhaps with the exception of RP), I would make sure I stayed in that clan forever (unless a large issue arose which I couldn't stand for). You don't seem to grasp the concept of a clan - It is like making friends. You don't make friends then leave them because they aren't good enough for you.

JSA, I have nothing against you, but I'm having a go at what you've been saying.


I clearly state I have no problem being called a clan slut since there is no true meaning behind it.


The online Oxford dictionary defines a clan as:
1. a large family
2. a group of people with a strong common interest

and slut as:
1. someone who has had several casual sex partners
2. dated someone with low standards of cleanliness
(switched woman out for someone for obvious reasons)

Many clans, be it WL or otherwise, put a high value on loyalty, whereas a "slut" will show less consideration for it. Put those two together and you have someone who "has several casual clans" well...you can see where I'm getting at. It has a very true meaning and many people are showing an obvious distaste for the way you clan hop. You would be more accurate in saying that you don't care if people think you're a clanslut, instead of saying it has no true meaning.


I feel very happy with each one I have been in and have gotten a lot out of each(well not [WM] yet but I am sure I will


...and that's how porn starts. You make it clear here that you use clans for your own benefit and yet you show little compassion towards your former clan mates...moving on when it suits you best.


You really should give a notice that you are going to leave (I wasn't sure if you left until last week), and explain why you leave.


While Widzisz (sorry for using you as a referrence, Widzisz) also said he has no problems with you leaving, he said he was upset that you left without warning, not even bothering to explain yourself or give a farewell address (you always need a farewell address man).

I don't want to quote your whole post where you shared your opinions on what clans are for so I'll just mention this: clans will inherently turn to loyalty after an elapsed period of time (this time varies from group to group), because it's human nature. Those who show they don't care for or are otherwise incapable of it attract distrust. My argument so far being: Loyalty -> Trust, Disloyalty -> distrust. Disloyalty -> Negative attention (i.e. Clanslut)


I was surprised all the hate I was getting from switching to one more clan.


Really?...but that's just commonsense. People put up with it for awhile, but you pushed your luck :P

Again, nothing against your personally JSA, but I wanted to get that out there.

tl;dr: CLANSLUT

also

...and that's how porn starts.

is now my go-to argument in political discussions.

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That will make you seem like a Republican

Never go full Republican :P

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Who cares.

Gui, you're such a frigid clanbitch.

Arun - We couldn't just make an elite division of [P] because most of the clan was already inactive. Frankly, I only played with a few of them myself (mostly Falcoun, JSA and Lolowut), so I had no attachment to [P] because I did not know them. JSA asked me to lead them and I felt uncomfortable with that since I had barely even been in [P]. So we decided to make a new clan.

All I can explain is that movement by JSA, which I think was totally justified. As far as him leaving [WG] for [WM], I don't care. If his heart is not in [WG] then I would rather him go where his heart is. We value loyalty and always have. We allow multi-clan players (we only have a couple), but we still require that those players are committed to us in clan wars/leagues/etc. He has always competed for us in these, but I assume his desire was to compete for [WM] in the future.

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Gui^ +1

Yes, I apologize to the apex and [WG] guys about no warning about leaving. I don't think I have lost any friends from leaving (except maybe X). I still am willing to play with anybody in [WG] or Apex, I just felt that [WM] could help me achieve being a better 3v3 europe player easier than any other clans, I have already learned on 3v3 Europe from 1-2 games I've played with Gnuffone and hope to keep learning and become a top 3v3 Europe player. I feel that there are maybe 1-2 people in [WG] and Apex that would be considered top 3v3 Europe players, while [WM] has 2-3 at least in just their clan. Like I said, I don't look at loyalty for clans, I look at which clan can offer me the most. My opinion, hate on it if you want, as many of you are. If you are all about loyalty in your clan, don't let me join, simple as that. I value meeting new players and getting to know them over loyalty to a small group of people. I prefer to have 30 teammates I can play with and know will do a good job over 10 players I play all the time with.

Gnull, my apologies, was thinking Reza joined before you, I was wrong :)

Like I said, I don't look at loyalty for clans, I look at which clan can offer me the most.

so basically you are a clanleech. you dont care about your friends, as long as you get what you want, you'd gladly ditch one clan for another, just because it would help you become a 'top player'

clanleech.