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Weird Ratings on RA's Stolen Europe Map: 7/23/2015 08:40:33


Genghis 
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Timmy : Hey Jimmy, those are cool transformers toys.

Jimmy : Thanks timmy. I know you like being Optimus prime, but i do as well. Since these are by toys, i think I'll be Optimus prime. But, you can be Unicron!

Timmy : Awww... okay.

*later*

Jimmy : Hi timmy. ..

Timmy : What's the matter?

Jimmy : I don't have my Optimus prime anymore!

Timmy : Oh, well wanna play transformers? I just got a new optimus prime. But i get to be optimus prime.

Jimmy : Fair's fair.

Jimmy : Wait, this is my optimus prime!

Timmy : ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Jimmy :

I've dumbed it down for all the toddlers.
Weird Ratings on RA's Stolen Europe Map: 7/23/2015 08:41:11


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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Mr'Trαnqέx - please forgive me the phrase but if you knew anything about game mapmaking, you'd know it's much more than just drawing borders from a real world map. If you're after a good map, you need an idea of how the gameplay on the map should look like, whether you want the map to be balanced or not. And for the map to really work you eed hours of testing with different settings, and changing the map itself after each and every game.

"Classic" Troll's original europe 1.0 map is very imbalanced. The emphasis is in a few regions that top players always want to control or at least set a foot in to prevent the enemy of controlling. Other regions are less important and only create sort of a "distance" between the "fertile grounds". My map was intended to be imbalanced as well but in different way. The fact that both maps are in most parts based on real world administrative divisions has no meaning because they are clearly different in gameplay in every way, not to mention even though my map and Troll's are both real world europe maps, the teritorry divisions are very different.

What Ra did is a clear Rip-Off. He did not have my SVG, he redraw the whole thing but it's just a blatant copy and everybody can see it. He did not do any testing, It was already done by me, he changed a few details here and there and expects being given credit for it while saying mine was only "idea".
It would be true if I went to him and said - hey Ra, why don't you make a new Euro map with different balance to the classic one - let's say - divide the big countries into small bonusses, but create a chain of 1/1 bonusses and fast sea connections which will dramatically improve mobility on the map. And by the way - I really like Iceland, but it makes a fortress of Northwestern islands, so maybe don't include it in this map, so that you diminish the significance of that corner a bit.

My map from the first drawings was intended to strategically speaking bring completely different europe map to what we had before. It introduces sea connections and bonusses you did not see in previous maps. All of those were well thought of and proven to work as planned (changing both balance and dynamics on the board).

I will try to publish it soon, despite I am very busy last few months. I don't care about Ra's army of alts reducing it's rating. I don't actually understand why is he so mad at me that he plans doing such things. All I asked him for was to include my nickname as the creator on the map itself, and changing map description so that my credits are clear. He refused, and did it in imho an unacceptable manner.. You can all be judges here.
Weird Ratings on RA's Stolen Europe Map: 7/23/2015 10:58:11


ℳℛᐤƬrαńɋℰ✕
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Its okey Fridge/AlterEgo. I have drawn, tested, played. Maybe one day will publish - if it is perfect and worth it. And I know the effort it takes to make and test and constantly think over setting/map features so It wont be random and pointless. And that is exactly my point in Maps and settings which create game-play. Different maps need different approach - there is no universal way to do it. No Rome, Europe or Earth map is perfect in full measure. They just suite with particual settings.
I would definitely prefer your map to Standard Europe and to RA-s copy of it! I am waiting it! I looked now closer and they are exactly the same. Thanks for explaining as well.
But back to main topic, I still feel and think spamming RA-s Europe copy with bad ratings and reviews would not solve the problem. Rather than encourge him to do same on his map and other players ones. And again the option is to Report RA by community. I highly doubt that Fizzer would consider the issue in review section. Second - yes it ought to be made known to other players and one review is enough for others to upvote (find particular review useful).

I personally have not played, will not play nor review map that - as it is not made by him, so he/she does not deserve the feedback at all. Simple as that. Starting map review Flame war is petty thing to do. If this map does not deserve to be here, let it die amongst his alts.
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