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So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 02:40:26


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So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 02:50:21


Tyrion Lannister
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but... no one wants that to happen. so it won't.

no one wants the cards to fall. not japan, not china, not US, not Germany, not russia.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:02:23


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But it will happen... A global economic collapse.. (Which is a night-mare scenario) but if America goes default on it's debts which are (14 trillion) Then everything collapses... When resources go so scarce as people don't have the money to spend on.. Could we look at the possibility of a WW3..???

Please someone tell me this is wrong :(
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:04:01


Tyrion Lannister
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No one will let america default.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:05:49


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-yawn-
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:06:40


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What do you mean by no-one? Who is this no-one? Please explain.. :(

I'm not an expert in this as I'm 15 so...
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:09:32


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Scary facts:

Americas Income is 2.2 trillion dollars..

Expenses 4+ trillion...

Americas dollar value is decreasing as America is using the federal reserve to pay off the loans.. The decreasing value makes the feseral reserve almost useless.. Which means America can't pay off the loans..

Why can't they cut or increase taxes?

People will complain and riots will happen..
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:13:33


Tyrion Lannister
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I think you need to leave this to the older people, who realize that world leaders are too smart to let their nations collapse into chaos.

Also, America doesn't have to default- for a long time. The status quo probably won't change in your lifetime, or your children's.

also: your Irish. Go leave the American economy to us Americans?

Edited 7/16/2015 03:15:08
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:23:03


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world leaders are too smart

HAHAHAHAHA THAT IS HILARIOUS

Also, America doesn't have to default- for a long time

I think it's illegal for the US to default, based off of the constitution.

Edited 7/16/2015 03:23:53
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:23:49


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lol.. "Leave this to the older people".. I would almost say I have more knowledge of this crisis than few people in your country.. Which is sad.. My age doesn't have a factor on my opinion of this topic.

You are not explaining none of your points.. Your just saying your points but I don't see any evidence or Explanation.

I may be Irish and it's your economy... But if America goes.. The world takes a hit. Also many of my people have travelled to your nation from our famine in 1845... Which were welcomed. So maybe it is somewhat a little percentage our economy... As US buisnesses like Intel are located here in Ireland for the EU incentives which employes many people in this country..

And as I'm editing my post someone from your country is questioning your points..

Edited 7/16/2015 03:25:36
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:34:50


Major General Smedley Butler
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America is going to fall and that's good. Maybe one day America will also become a republic again.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:37:24


Tyrion Lannister
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To an extent, I agree with you. But with all gain comes pain.

Also, Benjamin, I'm not talking about American leaders. I'm talking about Chinese/Indian leaders.

Edited 7/16/2015 03:38:16
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:38:54


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Well not really.. This collapse can be very extreme.. This can lead to shortages of food welfare medical suplies etc. Most americans can't afford a 500 dollar reparir bill if had to... So if a collapse happen they can't even buy groceries.. So if you consider that to be worth of a republic? Then I guess it is good..
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:41:01


Major General Smedley Butler
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I'd put my life on the line to restore the republic.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:41:37


Tyrion Lannister
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Most Americans could afford a 500 repair bill. It's difficult, but my parents are way below (American) poverty level and we still get by fine. We even own r own home - while living in welfare.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:43:55


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But would your family survive? If the Welfare is gone? Which will be the case if an economic collapse happens? Thats how familys will be wiped out.. Familys depend on welfare for support and if this supprt is gone the family will be gone.. Half of America could be gone!! This is extreme.. But it could happen.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:47:28


Tyrion Lannister
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Dude.

If the welfare is gone, than the government is gone.

If the government is gone, than taxes and most regulations are gone.

If those things go, than the economy will heal itself over time.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:52:49


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How about if the welfare is restricted? Would your family survive? With Growing inflation as the US dollar value decreases due to the federal reserve? Would your family be able to survive>
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 03:58:44


Major General Smedley Butler
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I'd rather have not a dollar to my name and be able to have a choice in my government than have a million and be a complacent servant.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 04:01:16


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I applaud you for your commitment Smedley.. To die for something you believe in would be like being a saint dying for your religion :) fair play ^^
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 04:40:27


Rogue Nikolai Krogius
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America has already defaulted on its debt before. It was our revolutionary war debt to france. Other than that we have a pretty good credit score compared to other countries.

Also, don't assume that just because this kid is young that his ideas are meaningless. Thats the problem in our schools. We need to let our children think up these fears so that we can have a decent debate.

Eventually we will default. It is only a matter of time.

""Dude.

If the welfare is gone, than the government is gone.

If the government is gone, than taxes and most regulations are gone.

If those things go, than the economy will heal itself over time.""

This is actually pretty accurate. ^^^^^^^^

Edited 7/16/2015 04:41:27
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 13:04:11


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"This kid"

In my mind 13 years or under is a child.

13-18 is classified as a young adult or teenager.

tbh, It's not about how old you are.. It's about how wise and mature you are.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 13:24:01


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anyway, the interesting part about this si that the us total public debt is around 6 times its income, while it still has a AAA rating from the rating agencies.
Whiel european countries in trouble usually have a debt between 2 and 3 times their income and have crapy ratings, you know why? because evryone knows that if they amke it clear that western economies are bankrupt they will become so, while no one udnerstands it its fine
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 14:06:44


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Tyrion the reason your arguments fall flat their face is because you generalise all the time. Generalisations are the weakest evidence you can give.

"Chinese and Indian leaders are too smart to let their nations collapse into chaos."

"Irish people can't comment on America."

"You're too young to know this."

You generalise on nationality, and age a lot, and this is why your arguments are weak and they usually don't get past three more posts before getting destroyed be someone else.

Edited 7/16/2015 14:06:52
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 14:46:20


Tyrion Lannister
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Because I can't take someone who says that half of America would "be gone" if welfare disappeared seriously. It's an idiotic statement.

Also, frankly,you saying that doesn't in any way make my argument less valuable. And this IS NOT a debate. No one has actually put forth any reliable evidence for either side, just pure speculation.
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 19:08:35


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Well maybe not half of the American people may be gone but possibly land :)

If I remember correctly, Correct me if I'm wrong, China proposed of America giving China land to pay off foreign debts?
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 19:40:46


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Something you might like:

http://smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3794
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 19:44:37


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world leaders are too smart


Oh really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7UcQcD9INI
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 19:55:37


Major General Smedley Butler
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I don't think there's a single nation that could successfully invade America through it's coasts. So China biting land off the US is in doubt. Although I doubt a US invasion of China could happen either. So they'll just chuck nukes at each other.

Edited 7/16/2015 20:04:01
So this is how America will end? :( or world! D:: 7/16/2015 19:56:55


OxTheAutist 
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Nobody ever believes me, but I'm all telling you. Kyrgyzstan has the capabilities to end the world at the push of a button, and could destroy America in 38 minutes, if they tried. Stop underestimating them as just "that weird 'stan' country in the middle of Asia that nobody really cares about".
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