And America denies that Abkhazia and South Ossetia exist, and other countries.

So? Both entities you mentioned are recognized by about four or five countries each. Most of the world denies that these two exist! This random tidbit hardly builds a case against the U.S.

But they do exist - though you are right, America is not the only guilty one here. Well, there is no recent equivalent other than this, but it's pretty much the same - America/NATO says that they don't exist when everyone well knows that they do.

Only a handful of countries recognize them, so it's pretty safe to call them illegitimate. Do you believe every group that tries breaking off should be immediately recognized? The world would become balkanized very quick if we start recognizing every break-away state.

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We need to recognise what actually is - rather than what we want it to be. Don't worry, the worry won't become too balkanised.

But the Levant, Anbar, Artsakh, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Somaliland all exist. Whether you like it or not.

By the way, if we're just going by what everyone considers is "legitimate" - then both Chinas, Mongolia and Armenia are all noncountries.

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PRC and Mongolia both have near universal recognition and UN seats. So try again.

The countries you're vouching for are about as legitimate as the CSA was.

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Legitimacy does not matter!
If they exist, they exist!
Too bad for you if you don't want them to exist!

And Arstotzka!

Back to the topic, 9-11, and the War On Terror. Go to Drudge Report on line or Infowars or the Power Hour. there are many people who have researched the facts and ongoing deception. I believe the attack on 9-11 was allowed to happen by elements or the US government and the Banking-Corporate Cartel which controls most of the wealth in the world. The 1% , the richest people in the World are pushing us towards a future where the Corporations control everything. The evidence is overwhelming. Right now the Congress is voting to approve a trade treaty which will give the Corporations Legal standing to have their own court system to oversee trade and copywrite matters. They are voting without seeing the details of the agreement.

Tsh...infowars...why worry about politics when we'll all be dead by 2018 through the apocolypse? Wake the sheep!

Legitimacy does not matter!
If they exist, they exist!
Too bad for you if you don't want them to exist!

So if I declare independence from the U.S and decide to make my house an independent country I should deserve recognition because, "Hey, it exists!"

Yes I'm aware I'm using an extreme example but merely existing is a stupidly simple criteria for recognizing something as a country.

ISIS exists, Do they deserve formal recognition?

Yes - they're a sovereign country, whether we like it or not.

If you manage to gain independence from America, I'll recognise you - but you better not be paying American taxes nor following American law.

ISIS is a country.
I don't support them but they do deserve that much, they have done much more than the Taliban ever did.

Conspiracy theriosts can go to hell 9-11 was real
if you think it is fake you are a complete idiot who has a heart of battery acid

So it pisses me off so much! I mean goddamn it to missles make plane shaped holes!

believing in this is for losers who want to feel supior to others that they have "The Truth"
you guys just make up bull shit

So... what do you think was the "real" target to Start this war? And please other arguments than oil ...

Again. It was the UNOCAL pipeline. And apart from that they knew they f***** Afghanistan and made a demon . (radicalization of the Afghan people in the late seventies(which was a response to the pro-soviet government in Afghanistan))

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Murica : Evil

Eklipse always needs to show up to defend US, and anyone that critizes US is just a US hater and hates freedom.

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