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World Powers: 3/30/2015 09:31:48

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Spain was clearly out after the 1600s, soon after the Spanish Armada was defeated and the Habsburg dominion dismantled, facing a crisis and slowly losing ground in America (Caribbean, North America etc.)
World Powers: 3/30/2015 10:19:57


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@[ESP] Pablo García

In my opinion.

1500s: Ottoman Empire, Spain, Portugal
1600s: Spain, France, Ottoman Empire,
1700s: France, United Kingdom, Qing Empire
1800s: United Kingdom, Russia, France
1900-1950: United Kingdom, Germany, United States, Russia
1950-2000: United States, Russia, China, United Kingdom
Nowadays: United States, China, Russia

I know I probably left some out

Edited 3/31/2015 06:48:26
World Powers: 3/30/2015 12:36:09


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India; errr why are they powerful again?
World Powers: 3/30/2015 12:37:12


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And in
1900 - 1950 Japan was reasonably powerful
World Powers: 3/30/2015 12:42:58


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yeah, japan in 1945 was veeeery powerful :P
World Powers: 3/30/2015 13:11:05


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It's not focusing on 1945 it's focusing on half of a century
World Powers: 3/30/2015 13:18:48

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1600s-Spain and HRE.
1700s-France,England,Austria.
1800s-France,England,Russia.
1900s-USA,England,Germany,USSR
2000s-USA,China.
World Powers: 3/30/2015 14:04:01


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1900s-USA,England,Germany,USSR


Germany was powerful at the beginning...but then the Versailles Treaty (1919)...very poorness 1919-1936, then great victories, then back to very poorness (1945-1980s around).
World Powers: 3/30/2015 14:07:38


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The best list:

1500s: Spain, Portugal, Ottoman Empire
1600s: Spain, Portugal, Ottoman Empire
1700s: Spain, Portugal, Russia
1800s: Russia, Britain, France
1900-1950: Britain, France, Russia
1950-2000: Russia, America, Japan
Nowadays: China, America (EU also if they are taken into account together)
World Powers: 3/30/2015 15:09:14

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Juq Spain in the 1700s was no longer a powerful nation nor Russia still barely in the middle age during that period. And again China was number one at least until 1600-1700.

Edited 3/30/2015 15:09:48
World Powers: 3/30/2015 15:26:27


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Spain had a massive colonial empire, military, population and everyone in their population was pretty rich and literate (for the times). Pyotr I-on Russia started to conquer many countries.

China was weak compared to the European countries - China entered the dark ages in the 1400s and didn't really come from them until the 1900s.
World Powers: 3/30/2015 15:54:13

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I am less familiar with the history of Russia but I at least know that Russia started to change with Peter the Great who did extensive reforms but still most of Russia was under developped (only St Petersburg could really compete with other european cities), and there was a cultural and economic gap between Russia and other European nations.

Spain had a massive colonial empire, military, population


El siglo de oro (the golden age) lasted 150 years, 1492 to 1650, Spain despite having still a big colonial empire was actually a kind of vassal state during the 18th century, first of the Autrichian dynasty of Habsburg and then the French dynasty of Bourbon. The War for the Spanish Succession ended with the relegation of Spain, now under Bourbon rule, to the status of a second-rate power with a reduced influence in European affairs. The age of enlightment did not reached Spain until mid-18th century. The economic decline started as early as 1557 and they declared bankruptcy at least 4 times from 1550 to 1600.
Any battle fought by Spain against other European nations were lost (Pyrenean treaty defining the modern French-Spanish border, many territories lost such as Roussillon, Florida, Netherlands, etc)

their population was pretty rich and literate (for the times).


The Spanish society was actually really inegalitarian (even for that period's standards) with a strong clergy owning everything, so you are here again totally wrong.
That's sad that Spain did not learn that much from their Muslim predecessors in culture, tolerance and science advances...

China was weak compared to the European countries - China entered the dark ages in the 1400s and didn't really come from them until the 1900s.


Again wrong, China wasnt lucky to find America which could have boosted the Chinese economy (certainly because of Pacific Ocean distances. As even their navy was more advanced compared to Europeans, if you ever heard of the admiral Zheng He who already almost one century before big European explorations started great expeditionary voyages with a massive fleet).
But even when the Ming dynasty collapsed, the next Qing dynasty for a time saved China and started great conquests, it is during the Qing dynasty (from 1600 to 1900) that China had its biggest territorial extent, and almost every Asian states were vassals of the Chinese Emperor.
So China faced a decline only when the Opium wars began (19th century), and that Europe benefited technical and military advances from the first industrial revolution, as most of the techonology acquired during the REnaissance was actually imported from China (paper/printing, artillery, military tactics, philosophy/culture)

Edited 3/30/2015 16:13:59
World Powers: 3/30/2015 15:56:19


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Did somebody forget the economic miracle of the 1950s in West Germany? The German economy was weak between 1919-1923 and 1945-1954, but other than that it was always in the top ten, so it's worth mentioning.

Regardless, the EU isn't going anywhere and why is Russia not being mentioned in the world powers of today? Just because their currency is weak and the economy is in ruins, doesn't mean the country doesn't have potential. All we need is for Putin to finally invade Ukraine and Russia will become a Superpower again.

21st Century:

Superpowers: China, US, Russia

Runner-ups:

EU - made up of some of the most powerful countries. Ageing population, declining birth rates, brain-drain, apathy, high unemployment, immigration problems, etc.

Japan/South Korea - Ageing population, declining birth rates, debt problems, border China.

India - big population and a growing economy, but there are so many problems plaguing the country and they can barely deal with their neighbors, Bangladesh and Pakistan, let alone take on the world stage.

Middle East/North Africa - oil is going to have its last big run sometime over the next 50 years and after that, the financial resources will dry up like all the water did thousands of years ago.

Brazil - Actually, there's a lot of potential here, but considering the rest of Latin/South America doesn't get along with their Portuguese-Native American-African powerhouse, this will hamper them greatly. That and the fact that they don't have the institutions to overhaul the economy when the natural resources start running out.

ASEAN - not a chance. They hate each other too much, the organization exists solely to keep them from going to war with each other.

Sub-Sahara - it has all the raw materials it needs to become a Superpower, but lacks everything else.
World Powers: 4/1/2015 13:50:01

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I think the Dutch Rebuplic should be added in 1700, they dominated the world economic most of the seventeenth century by controlling Indonesia and other parts of Asia + they had one of the best navies in the world to reach it

Edited 4/1/2015 13:51:28
World Powers: 4/2/2015 22:36:47

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actually that was the 1600s...
World Powers: 4/3/2015 01:16:36


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Roman Empire 117AD
World Powers: 4/3/2015 01:17:37


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Am I the only person who has realized Master Chief's number is 117 and the largest amount of land Rome ever had was 117AD?
World Powers: 4/6/2015 20:27:23


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@[NL] Sander

Ja Nederland had de beste scheppen en was een van de rijkste landen maar ik denk dat ze een wereldkracht waren zoals Frankrijk en Britian.
World Powers: 4/6/2015 20:58:43

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Ja ja ja ja ja!
World Powers: 4/7/2015 16:33:00


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Ouais ouais ouais ouais ouais!
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