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Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 01:18:13


Sitzkrieg
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I decided to make a map of the Battle of Stalingrad in WWII. The biggest challenge was balancing historical and geographical accuracy with good game play. I have only tested it once and still have a long way to go. Surprisingly, there aren't a lot of easy-to-access records of individual blocks or buildings for most of the city. I've included the big ones that I could find, but I would really appreciate it if you could help me out with building names etc. Also, please tell me what you think of the isometric view and the distribution (some of the bonuses definitely need to be fixed).

https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=40981
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 02:49:30


Piss Flaps the Sly
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Love the idea. I also like the isometric view.

I've got a few books on the Battle of Stalingrad and will have a look through them and see what I can find for you.
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 03:00:10


Sitzkrieg
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Thanks, that would be great.
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 06:37:20


Thomas 633
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you need a snowy background

but interesting map
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 08:27:06


[NL] Willem van Oranje
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make sure you connect the sewersterritories and the buildings with eachoter
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 15:26:21


MrOobling
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Looks cool. I would say that there is an unecesarry amount of Space at the top of the map and perhaps the red lines look a bit electrical- right now it looks more like a computer circuit than an actual city. Although, if you edit that, I think it will make an excellant map.
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 18:54:55


Sitzkrieg
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I'm working on filling in the top of the map. There will be additional bonuses to enhance game play and I am working on designing a snowy terrain for the entire map. I've made some bonuses look like infantry, armor, and artillery so it looks and feels like WWII. I still have a long ways to go but here is what I have so far: https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=41009
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 19:35:52


OnlyThePie
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I'll be honest, I don't like this map. The Concept is good, but the layout hurts my eyes, and its honestly too confusing. If it was a more traditional top-down, every-territory-is-a-polygon map, it would be great, but I've never liked maps where every territory only connects via lines.
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 21:12:34


Sitzkrieg
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What if the territories weren't connected by lines but the view was still isometric, would it still be too confusing?
By the way, thank you for your input. I'm completely open to constructive criticism. It's really important for me to have a very good finished product. This is my first map and I want to enter the map-making scene with a bang.

Edited 3/5/2015 21:16:39
Stalingrad: 3/5/2015 22:17:38


OnlyThePie
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It might work if they all directly bordered, but still in this view. Its mostly the lines I think, you veer away from "Map" and move towards "Confusing subway layout"
Stalingrad: 3/6/2015 00:16:38


Sitzkrieg
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Alright, I see your point. I'm working on a prototype now that I hope will be far less confusing and enhance game play. I'll post the link on this thread when it's done.
Stalingrad: 3/6/2015 00:22:36


Piss Flaps the Sly
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Found a couple of things for you mate, though not sure on the overall use.

A lot of what you have so far is correct, such as Pavlovs house, rodimstev's HQ (I do have the name NKVD HQ in one of the books, though I think it is the same place) the bank, beer factory etc all seem to be correct. Even the books I have mention street names, but nothing about the buildings, which when you consider the battle was fought from building to building there would be more.

Sadly you seem to be correct. as much as the battle is well written about, very little pays any actual attention to the buildings, their names and the layout.

I did find the following maps. thouh you may already have them yourself.

http://www.stalingrad.net/maps/stalingrad_map_5a.htm

http://redarmysoldier.info/attachments/Image/best.jpg

https://chindits.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/stalingrad-bev.jpg

https://chindits.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/stalingrad/

The last is a series of maps.

Edited 3/6/2015 00:23:35
Stalingrad: 3/6/2015 01:08:42


Sitzkrieg
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Hey thanks for the research. Yeah I've seen those maps you posted links to. There are more aerial photographs I've been using as well. I found one tactical map that simply assigned numbers to the buildings so I'll either make something up or assign numbers, but I'm going to post on some other forums dedicated entirely to the battle to see if I can get more info first. Thanks!
Stalingrad: 3/6/2015 01:14:10


Piss Flaps the Sly
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No worries, glad to (be of no) help :)

If there is anything you would like to ask me to look into then just PM and I'll get back when I can.

I'll also continue to look into this anyway as it has peaked my historical interest and let you know if I find anything.
Stalingrad: 3/10/2015 09:12:03


Sitzkrieg
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Alright, I decided to re-design this map. I'm going for three things (in this order):
1) Game play
2) Historical/geographical accuracy
3) Visual appeal

I'm eliminating the lines to make connections less confusing. I am connecting all of the bonuses via roads that can be taken just like any other territory. I'm also adding in extra military units and will be basing them on actual units that fought in the battle. The background is currently black, but it will be snowy and all of the shadows will look better once the background is complete. I hope you're look forward to playing on it as much as I am. Please feel free to tell me what you think (good and bad).
Thanks
https://www.warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=41173
Stalingrad: 3/10/2015 20:29:01


OnlyThePie
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Much better, now I can see myself playing this map. Looks excellent, keep up the good work!
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