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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 03:59:49


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What is the foreigners view of USA? Do we make big deals about nothing? Do you like us or not and why?
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 04:21:41


Thomas 633
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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 04:22:22


Thomas 633
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You war everyone.
You are fat.
You can't control guns.

Those are some of the world's gripes with you.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 04:26:05

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Most people don't have problems with the American people or the American culture, but I'd say the US government and its foreign policy is hated all across the world, mostly because of their habit of interfering in other country's affairs (Middle East, Russia, Asia) in desperate attempts to to demonstrate American Imperialism and maintain the ever decreasing American hegemony in the world.

Plus the US government is world famous for its hypocritical foreign policy, the war of aggression in Iraq, the classic strategy of interfering to deliberately set other nations apart, then benefiting from arms sales and also their colder diplomacy ties with each other (and thus better with US). Not to mention all it does in the name of 'democracy' and 'freedom', often trying to force its export version of democracy down the throat of other countries and causing chaos during and after.

American Imperialism is the single biggest threat to world peace today.

But I have no problem with Americans, good food, good clothes, good people, good movies and many more.

You're welcome.

Edited 1/12/2015 11:41:13
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 05:04:58


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Hmm, I'll modify what Pulsey said just a bit.

Most people don't have problems with the American people (unless they are too outwardly pro-US, all other countries suck) or the American culture (but some do), but I'd say the US government and its foreign policy is hated all across the world, mostly because of their habit of interfering in other country's affairs (Middle East) in desperate attempts to to demonstrate American Imperialism and try to revive the American hegemony (but only making it worse) in the world.

Plus the US government is world famous for its hypocritical foreign policy, the war of aggression in Iraq, the classic strategy of divideandconquer, which the US isn't the only user of, but it is the most aggressive user of, then benefiting from arms sales and also their colder diplomacy ties with each other (and thus better with US). Not to mention all it does in the name of 'democracy' and 'freedom', often trying to encourage and attract people in country's to force its export version of democracy, and if there has been democracy installed in a country, to remove the democracy (1953) causing chaos during and after.

American Imperialism is one of the biggest threats to world peace today.

But I have no problem with most Americans.

You're welcome.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 10:13:48

Elroi{IL}
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This is not really true about American imperialism, right Obama foreign relations worse, but remember what would happen if Americans did not intervene in what is happening to the world, I think that according to Obama it was not terrible, but Obama did not try to spread democracy, he just does not help anyone So one of the world's countries are destroyed.
What are related to what happened for example in Egypt? They supported "democracy" of the Muslim Brotherhood but did not intervene, and then there was a revolution and they intervened? No, why do you blame them Baimfrlizm?
As of Obama's foreign policy worse but should not blame the Panamanian American wars that happen in the world, they do not have to have help and this is what happens at the end like it did in the rest of the world wars, and we saw what happened then.
Entry into Iraq was because Sadat, who fought against Kuwait Iran and fired missiles into Israel, all the world attacked him then why America guilt? Was a disaster twins so they tried to destroy al Qaeda, I want to see another country as a terrorist group kills her thousands of people and it would not seek to destroy the organization.
In other words, America is not to blame the wars that happen in the world, who fights blame, the only problem that Obama does not know how to respond and restore order and now see what happens.
In other words there is no Aimfrlizm American, America is not to blame the wars in the world is just not able to calm the region, and now see that the world's in civil wars and the Russians and the Chinese and Iranian threat to countries in the world and strive to become empires.
I have no problem if the American people, President Obama problem worse ...
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 11:04:27


Poseidó̱nas
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ALL AMERICANS:

America!

America, fuck yeah!
Comin' again to save the mother fuckin' day yeah!
America, fuck yeah!
Freedom is the only way yeah!

Terrorists your game is through, 'cause now you have to answer to...
America, fuck yeah!
So lick my butt and suck on my balls!
America, fuck yeah!
Whatcha gonna do when we come for you now?

It's the dream that we all share
It's the hope for tomorrow! Fuck yeah.

Mcdonalds, fuck yeah!
Wal-mart, fuck yeah!
The Gap, fuck yeah!
Baseball, fuck yeah!
The NFL, fuck yeah!
Rock and roll, fuck yeah!
The internet, fuck yeah!
Slavery, fuck yeah!

Fuck yeah!

Starbucks, fuck yeah!
Disney world, fuck yeah!
Porno, fuck yeah!
Valium, fuck yeah!
Reeboks, fuck yeah!;

Fake tits, fuck yeah!
Sushi, fuck yeah!
Taco bell, fuck yeah!
Rodeos, fuck yeah!
Bed bath and beyond, fuck yeah? (fuck yeah?)

Liberty, fuck yeah!
Wax lips, fuck yeah!
The Alamo, fuck yeah!
Bandaids, fuck yeah!

Las Vegas, fuck yeah!
Christmas, fuck yeah!
Immigrants, fuck yeah!
Pop-eye, fuck yeah!

Democrats, fuck yeah!
Republicans, fuck yeah?
Sportsmanship, fuck yeah?
Books...
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 11:26:37


{rp} Lord Storman
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I usually try to have a reasonable approach to this problem, and though the US (and the americans) can be very annoying at times, I try not to generalize, and I know most of you guys are not inbred gun loving, fag hating, god worshiping white trash patriotic assholes.

But the mess you made on the "french shootings" thread kind of pissed me off. Even smart americans it seems can't help but always bring everything back to them. Egocentric atttitude like that is pathological, really. Not everything in the world is about you, and if someone disagrees with you he's not an "commie islamist who hates freedom".
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 11:31:51


Thomas 633
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ALL AMERICANS:

America!

America, fuck yeah!
Comin' again to save the mother fuckin' day yeah!
America, fuck yeah!
Freedom is the only way yeah!

Terrorists your game is through, 'cause now you have to answer to...
America, fuck yeah!
So lick my butt and suck on my balls!
America, fuck yeah!
Whatcha gonna do when we come for you now?

It's the dream that we all share
It's the hope for tomorrow! Fuck yeah.

Mcdonalds, fuck yeah!
Wal-mart, fuck yeah!
The Gap, fuck yeah!
Baseball, fuck yeah!
The NFL, fuck yeah!
Rock and roll, fuck yeah!
The internet, fuck yeah!
Slavery, fuck yeah!

Fuck yeah!

Starbucks, fuck yeah!
Disney world, fuck yeah!
Porno, fuck yeah!
Valium, fuck yeah!
Reeboks, fuck yeah!;

Fake tits, fuck yeah!
Sushi, fuck yeah!
Taco bell, fuck yeah!
Rodeos, fuck yeah!
Bed bath and beyond, fuck yeah? (fuck yeah?)

Liberty, fuck yeah!
Wax lips, fuck yeah!
The Alamo, fuck yeah!
Bandaids, fuck yeah!

Las Vegas, fuck yeah!
Christmas, fuck yeah!
Immigrants, fuck yeah!
Pop-eye, fuck yeah!

Democrats, fuck yeah!
Republicans, fuck yeah?
Sportsmanship, fuck yeah?
Books...



Books, FUCK NO
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 15:01:51


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A big problem is the neo-American Exceptionalism view that gets shoved down most of our throats. My whole life I've been told

America is the best country in the world,

nobody else comes close,

America is perfect,

the world only runs because we police it,

our freedoms are only freedoms and best freedoms,

every invention and scientific discovery worth a damn came from us,

if you visit any other country, you'll make love to the ground when you get back to the US because everywhere else sucks so much,

etc etc etc ad infinitum.

It's very difficult to be surrounded by that all the time and not end up retarded like most Americans. I can understand why people don't like us.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 15:08:14


Little Blue
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Almost half of all Americans reject evolution as a valid scientific theory. 'Murica!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/21814/evolution-creationism-intelligent-design.aspx

Almost half of all voters wouldn't even consider voting for their party's candidate if he were a proclaimed atheist. 'Murica!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/155285/atheists-muslims-bias-presidential-candidates.aspx

Racism divides the country more and more every year. I'm not just talking about southerners racist against blacks either. Reverse racism is an even worse problem, any criticism of a minority individual is about as taboo as criticizing someone's religion. Probably more taboo, actually.

I'm definitely not proud of my country... anybody have a nice suggestion on somewhere else I can live? :D
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 15:31:01

Elroi{IL}
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Each country with many minorities have a lot of racism, rather than the government, these people are not tolerant, not always there is racism Some people say they are discriminated against for benefits they do not try to move forward, for example demonstration in the US black boy shot, most people just looking for a reason to riot, especially lower class ...

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Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 15:41:31


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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^yep
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 16:15:30


Ranek
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Once I learned to start with the good things. This deserves some time for reflection...
I havent been in the USA, so far, but as far as I know there are beautiful countrysides. Your cultural achievements are massively influencing the whole world, which isnt always a good thing but this might depend on opinion. You scientific progress is admirable. The few americans I know are very friendly and polite, they mostly intend to be perfect gentlemen.

Unfortunately american society seems to be devided into extremes. They do and did have leading personalities on various topics, as well as dumb radicals, which refuse scientific achievements, good sense and social advance for the benefit of blind faith, racism and megalomania. In many places american society is awfully backwarded. To mention only few major issues: armed civilians, a lack of social primary care, like a civil health ensurance, creationism, legalized torture and the fear of the unknown, especially foreign religions.

I dont want to go into further detail. In my opinion, basing on my prejudices, the USA turns out to be a brutalized, ruthless hillbilly nation.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 16:23:04

Elroi{IL}
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Which great things have racists in America? 1 Tell me, what makes you think that it is common? It is a country of 300 million, it is impossible to enforce and to know everything.

This is the most tolerant country in the world, all in an immigrant, she a dark country?

Edited 1/12/2015 16:23:58
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 16:56:52


Жұқтыру
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Elroi, US is surely not the most tolerant country in the world. Again, racism and xenophobia. View Dairiy as an example. Patriotism/Nationalism, as Little Blue demonstrated, is amok. I'd say even more tolerant is Israel, if you are not Arab.

The top 3 most tolerant countries, though:

Singapore
Switzerland
Palau
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:26:28


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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Wow, foreigners don't like the fact that we own guns. Explain to me why.

Look at history. When peopled try to rebel with out weapons they end up dead. What would happen if The colonies didn't have guns? Or the French revolution? Look at Ukraine they walk around with shields and hard hats and get massacred.

Think of it, if everybody owned guns the government would fear the people.( To me this is good that way government doesn't walk all over the people)

Now you may say, "But what happens when a guy decides to go homicide?" well my answer would be that you would be stupid to go homicide because everybody has a gun.

Another question is, " Our forefathers didn't have our technology back then so they only thought of muskets and other old weaponry." My reply is this, our forefathers let us have guns that way we can defy a corrupt government if the time comes we may have a chance to fight back.

Tactically when many citizens own guns who would want to invade the heartland? Even if you destroy the military you will still have a militia to deal with.

I think the pros out way the cons on this subject.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:30:03

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America isnt America anymore folks, It used to be a great nation but in actuality they lost the cold war due to a secret treaty with Gorbachev and now the ex stasi staff control the entire western world circa 1991.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:35:27


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I really doubt that Switzerland can be considered tolerant. As far as I know they were quite racist :S

This was used in a political campaign some years ago


I suppose the party using this didn't win, but if i remember correctly they had a good number of votes.

P.D. I am saying what I can remember, maybe it went completely different to what I am saying
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:41:40


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And sorry for the double post... but about the guns...

I can understand that people feel safer having a gun, but if no one has a gun, then everybody is safer. If a guy is nuts and has a pistol, he can go to a school, or a cinema and kill others. If it is not possible for him to have a gun, there is no problem.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:50:37


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"Where there is a will

Thers a way"

Thats what they say.

If a man desires to kill

Theres no point to sway.

He'll make death

Don't waste your breath

you cant prevent.


Moral: If somebody wants to kill they will kill

Edited 1/12/2015 18:01:01
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 17:56:42


Little Blue
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You can't get rid of guns in the US.

The problem with gun control, is it only affects law-abiding citizens. Most crimes committed with guns are done with guns that were procured illegally already. More laws won't stop criminals from breaking the law. Just like anything else the US has tried to ban, people who want to get it will still get it.

So if you outright banned all guns, you'd just end up with even more defenseless victims. Also, it would open up a larger black market, which increases crime. Look at prohibition. Look at the war on drugs. All it served to do is empower the mafia, empower drug cartels, and empower gangs.

People who don't live in America need to realize that it's a different culture, and a different geopolitical situation. If you really want to learn something interesting, take a look at the crime rates in each state when they passed either new gun control or gun rights legislation.

Lastly, when the 2A was written, Congress had already ordered automatic rifles, so don't think they were only thinking of muskets. There was a rifle being developed that could fire 8 rounds in 5 seconds, roman-candle style. The 2A was written with the idea that any weapon the government could own, citizens could own. Many of the ships and cannons used in the revolutionary war were privately owned.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 18:42:46

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I've never debated gun control before, but i think a big reason for supporting gun control is that guns simply gives people a quick and easy method to kill. Murders are often performed under acts of anger and rage rather than coldly calculated and planned long beforehand. Murderers are not necessarily psychopaths and violent lunatics, perfectly normal people can let their emotions get the better out of them, and its understandable, though its still murder anyway.

Say someone finds his wife has been cheating on him, its easy to just kill her there and then when he has a gun lying just on the table. Banning guns, however, would mean the person would first have to illegally purchase a gun through a black market, which can take the motivation away from people and perhaps give them the time to reflect and forgive. Not to mention pulling a trigger requires less physical and psychological effort and probably less bravery than going up to someone and full on stabbing him with a knife.

Yes, people kill people, not guns. But I think the simple possession of a gun gives some people a feeling of power and a quick and easy means to vent their anger and frustrations on others. Its not good.

Edited 1/12/2015 18:47:57
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 18:47:20


{rp} eisenheim
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My only issue with America is their foreign policy. Interventionist, hypocritical, biased and ineffectual. All they seek is an American empire, thinly veiled by blatant disregard for the very rights they preach.

Each country has their own culture, positives and negatives. The US culture is in the limelight due to globalization and the high demand for it. The same applies to internal politics. Racism, xenophobia and the problem of forming an ideal welfare state are all debated worldwide due to their position. Not to mention it is ammunition to criticize America a bit more. Real hard to criticize constructively unless you are a resident or extremely well versed in American domestic affairs.

If America fought only when threatened, did not intervene in Big Brother style and went about correcting its internal affairs I am sure many here would praise their gallantry and wisdom. Shame that a country with such power is doing the complete opposite of that.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 18:54:06


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Was it good that we left Syria?( i think not cause now Isis is loose)
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 18:55:00


Ranek
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Look at history. When peopled try to rebel with out weapons they end up dead. What would happen if The colonies didn't have guns? Or the French revolution? Look at Ukraine they walk around with shields and hard hats and get massacred.

Think of it, if everybody owned guns the government would fear the people.( To me this is good that way government doesn't walk all over the people)


damn, this is so dumb, it will be waste of time to provide an answer. anyway, times have changed mate. We live in the 21st century not in the 19th! You claim america to be the best country in the world and say, that you need guns to fear the government. this is pretty sad and shizophrene. The government doesnt care for a single second about the armed citizens. They already walk all over the people. They locked the water supply to the poorest and no one did anything to deal with this. You are nothing else, than products of fear and consumption! by the way are you christian?

In ancient times, where a single sherrif used to protect a vaste area with his gun and horse, armed civilians and the castle doctrine might have made sense. In fact that people already had a gun for hunt. And too many must have sent to prison without this specific law. But nowadays it's outdated. It is the duty of the police to protect the people. If everyone judges a crime by hisself you will obviously end up in anarchy!

Now you may say, "But what happens when a guy decides to go homicide?" well my answer would be that you would be stupid to go homicide because everybody has a gun.


why do you think that guns are appropriate to defend yourselfes? Do you really think it might help you to prevent an assassination, committed with another gun? This is ridiculous!

EDIT: totally agree with Pulsey.

Edited 1/12/2015 18:57:09
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 19:01:29


Little Blue
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Pulsey, those types of murders are quite rare, while guns are used for self-defense quite a lot. A study by the department of justice found over 1 million cases per year of self-defense with a firearm.

Of course, if you banned guns, you would prevent *some* homicides. Just looking at that and not considering the other side of the coin though, is extremely short-sighted.

Homicides are committed by a certain demographic at a rate far higher than other demographics, and as I said, studies have found that the guns they use weren't acquired legally.

Edit: Ranek, 15 minute response time is going to do what for you when a meth-head breaks into your house at night? Look at the facts before deciding what the best course of action is.

Edited 1/12/2015 19:02:33
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 19:05:36


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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I don't praise america.
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 19:07:50


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And i never said having a gun prevents death. it just kills the killer
Foreigner's view of USA: 1/12/2015 19:11:25


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Pola, about your comment about Switzerland: 30% of it's citizens are foreign born. I think the example you showed is more an example of bad advertising rather than xenophobia. Switzerland also has high tourism rates. It would not have all this if it was xenophobic.
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