Why would pick based on join order be desired in clan league

Counter starts, when you view the board for the first time

No, I mean why would you want to allow the order to be determined by join time in a league that honors vacations? That does not seem fair to me.

my bad, not join order but pick order. It's completely fair even with vacations. You can time your vacation to be before or after the pick stage. You can decide whether you want 1st pick or last pick depending on your thoughts on the board once it's out. Sometimes 2nd pick will allow you an advantage, but 1st pick can give you just as much of an advantage depending on the order both people choose.

But still, lets say you go on vacation after joining. everyone else makes picks, so you get last pick basically. Like I said, if everyone wants it I am cool with that in solo...not sure I like the idea in team games like gnuff said. don't want to rush coordination of picks. But it would require a vote of A managers to make that change. it might be best to get that into league 7, where we can propose that for many more templates if you want.

Templates have already been voted on. No luck is not a must have setting. I agree with seriously considering it for next season but to change it would require a revote (plenty of players would not want no luck) and at this point, it's not worth the extra delay in my opinion.

The only thing that could be changed on templates without a vote would be changing strategic 1v1 to 0% weighted rather than 16% weighted. This may already be done and if it isn't, I suggest it to be changed. I have yet to meet a player who would prefer 16% weighted. 0% weighted still adds a bit of luck and doesn't depend as much on calculations like 0% straight round does, but it takes out the weird attacks. I haven't checked the settings lately; this may already be changed.

Just my opinions; Chris is in charge and he has the power to do as he sees fit to make the clan league as fun and competitive as possible.

I would like for The Royal Falcons to take part.

JSA, we are playing Strat 1v1 with %0 WR and %0 SR both

you may don't know how no luck cyle moves work in picking stage: assuming all 3 player of team A pick BEFORE of all player of team B, team will get 1st 4th and 5th picks, team B 2nd 4rd and 6th. (exactly, a team cannot take 1st AND 2nd pick for example)
And to be honest, looking about the template are used for manager League, i would rather let pick other team 1st in purpose, as you cannot take anyway a FTB with one pick only. Better have 2/3/6 than 1/4/5 IMO.

@Gnuffone, if that's true, then that seems to be another reason not to have it in a competitive multi-day event, especially if it allows vacations. We don't want to create a situation where slowing down the tournaments can give you a competitive advantage.

it's only for picking stage.

If it mattered, I would also vote no for it

In no-luck cyclic the teams can decide where to start before clicking "Begin" button,after which the timer starts.Yes,your timer does not start when the last player joins,but when you click Begin.

You can decide your picks in chat box before clicking "Begin",the limitation is that you don't get to see the map and highlight your picks,but we can use alternate solutions for that if we're prepared already in FULL DISTRIBUTION maps,although it'll be tougher in games with random warlord distribution

The player who commits fastest AFTER CLICKING BEGIN will get his/her 1st pick,doesn't matter how late he/she clicked begin after the game started.

I'm against it in team games,cause cyclic order is the very same game,except for the fact that no one has to hurry to pick 1st,also its better to find out the move orders ourselves,cause it can be deceiving and fun

The current templates labled "Strategic ME" and "S1v1 0% luck" appear to be identical, 0% WR. Is this a mistake? Chris, can you confirm for me what specifically the templates are?

T4R's player line-up

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1v1:
Strategic ME-----Facetroll
Poland-----------B-COOL (the widowmaker)
Greece-----------B-COOL (the widowmaker)
Guiroma----------Facetroll
Battle Islands-----Facetroll
S1v1 0% luck-----Facetroll

2v2:
China-----Hououin Kyouma||melly!!!
Guiroma---Hououin Kyouma||melly!!!
Szeuropa--Hououin Kyouma||Wuvly

3v3:
EU 0% SR 4x4--Stewie||SoludSnak||Wuvly
EU 0% WR 4x5--Stewie||SoludSnak||Wuvly

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Player links
Hououin Kyouma------------(https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4326800196)
B-COOL (the widowmaker)--(https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3811333145)
Facetroll-------------------(https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=689830983)
Wulvy---------------------(https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3712574642)
melly!!!--------------------(https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6533513309)
SoludSnak-----------------(https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=5121732254)
Stewie--------------------(https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=387038214)

Hey
What about us?-German Warlords?-We should also take part.

Duke, if you can mail me a lineup by Saturday I can probably get you guys in D.

Push, you are correct. I just fixed the template to SR...good catch. I will double check them all to make sure, I just used the ones other managers nominated.

For the SR game, is it cycle move order or random move order?

1v1 earth - julian
1v1 poland - freire
1v1 greece - cat
1v1 giuroma - sofa
1v1 battle islands - crab
1v1 no luck - boston

2v2 china -boston, crab
2v2 guiroma -sofa, freire
2v2 szeurpa - cat , boston

3v3 eu 4x4 - cat, boston, crab
3v3 eu 4x5 - freire , sofa,

we are saving our last 3v3 spot for a surprise visit. hoping for bishes, sherriff, or vaporx to return

freire https://www.warlight.net/profile?p=2027580034
!Sofa#King#What! https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=5021698727
grumpy cat https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=584788553
bostonphoenix https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=2114769920
Julian Speroni https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3617945849
crabicus https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9119254028

1v1 earth - Kasparov
1v1 poland - Kempo95
1v1 greece - Kempo95
1v1 giuroma - linberson
1v1 battle islands - JT
1v1 no luck - Kasparov

2v2 china - Synlar, begin_2000
2v2 guiroma - NinjaNic, Captain Trips
2v2 szeuropa - JT, Greivous_II

3v3 eu 4x4 - JT, Grievous_II, NostanceTD
3v3 eu 4x5 - begin_2000, Gilesy, lh70



Kasparov - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4922545519
Kempo95 - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9730303740
linberson - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9020236167
JT - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6611562592
Synlar - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=9027480371
begin_2000 - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3027655493
NinjaNic - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=6726479770
Captain Trips - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=5423467324
Grievous_II - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=722901337
NostanceTD - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=3929162167
Gilesy - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=4127844987
lh70 - https://www.warlight.net/Profile?p=5326469352

Edited 2/11/2015 03:29:58