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Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 04:00:53

{101st} Forgotten Knight
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As most people familiar with the League of Erroneous Aspirations (LEA) know, our focus is on 5v5 games. For our season 3 tournament, we have decided to allow other clans to submit teams to the tournament if they wish. We don't consider this a clan vs. clan event, but rather a team vs. team event.

Pertinent Details:
Tournament start date: January 1st, 2015
Template: https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=548980

If you would like to participate in this tournament, please post your 5 person roster (with links to the player's profiles) below.

A couple other minor rules that I feel should be mentioned:
1. The games all have a 2-day autoboot, so make sure your players are active!
2. Player substitutions are not allowed mid-tournament.
3. Only complete teams from one clan will be accepted. No mixed-clan teams or non-clan affiliated players will be allowed.
*However, if you are non-clan affiliated and want to participate, post below and we might be able to issue you an invite really quick and get you onto a last-minute ad hoc team.

Thanks for your attention (and I hope this doesn't clog up the clan forum page too much!)
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 04:01:05

{101st} Forgotten Knight
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Invited Teams:

LEA Teams:
The Wild Beasties...........................................-Confirmed
The Comrades................................................-Confirmed
The Pretty Princesses.......................................-Confirmed
LOL All Stars.............................................. -Confirmed
The Five Guys.............................................. -Confirmed
The FTA ....................................................-Confirmed
Les Borreaux............................................... -Confirmed
The Dangerous Dafodils..................................... -Confirmed
The StraitAtEm............................................. -Confirmed
The Globetrotters.......................................... -Confirmed
The Washington Generals.................................... -Confirmed
Saving Face................................................ -Confirmed
Angels of Death............................................ -Confirmed
The Gunslingers............................................ -Confirmed
Dr. Stupid's Alts.......................................... -Confirmed
The Odd Evens.............................................. -Confirmed
The Wazzu Babies........................................... -Confirmed
CataClysm Killers.......................................... -Confirmed

Non-LEA teams:
Appalachian Warlight Federation Team A......................-Confirmed
Appalachian Warlight Federation Team B......................-Confirmed
Appalachian Warlight Federation Team C......................-Confirmed
After_Dark................................................. -Confirmed
The Royal Falcons.......................................... -Confirmed
LN......................................................... -Confirmed
The Warlighters............................................ -Confirmed
The "G" Spot............................................... -Confirmed

Edited 1/1/2015 05:24:14
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 05:20:09

{101st} Forgotten Knight
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Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 18:25:19


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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Why are lost wolves not considered "Invited Teams"?
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 18:45:21


[₩Ů£F] £Ų€ÏĐ ĎŔĒÅMĘŘ
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or the other few clans in that matter
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 20:03:56


Lawlz
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It says Invited teams, with 2 sub categories of Lea and Non-LEA
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 20:42:50


Dr. Stupid 
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Lucid, it is what Mr. Fall said. Also, the "invited teams" are just clans that have done events with us in the past or are clans that maintain good relations with us. Really, we welcome ANY clan that wishes to participate in this tournament to do so.
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 20:43:48


[GRID] {A} Yūma Kuga
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Can Gridlock join
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 20:48:01


Dr. Stupid 
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Not until you recruit two more clan members. You have to have 5 from one clan to participate. (But yes, if Gridlock can come up with 5, we will happily have them in the tourney).
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/18/2014 20:53:28


[GRID] {A} Yūma Kuga
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We know
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 01:23:04


Dr. Stupid 
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What would be "mean as crap" for me to do would be to discuss this in a public forum. I have no problem with you personally and don't want to get into a public discussion of your merits or shortcomings. If you want to discuss any LEA decisions with me in private, I will be more than happy to give you any clarity you feel you need.
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 02:02:13


RICK
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Hi I would like to know that if I assemble a team if I may be allowed to enter this tournament?

Edited 12/19/2014 02:03:55
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 05:59:56

{101st} Forgotten Knight
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Rick,

Please go through your clan leader for that sort of thing. Any wolf clan team is welcome!
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 17:33:59


RICK
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thankyou
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 18:16:10


ChrisCMU 
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These settings are bad IMO:

-2 day boot - you will have a lot decided by boot as normal is 3 days. Is making all turns 1 day faster really worth deciding games on boots?

-No attack by % - why exclude this option?

-map - I have never played it, but why is it ALL blue and purple? Some colors would go a long way to make bonuses easier to see.

-Full distribution 5 picks - picking 50 spots is pretty damn tedious. Anything over 25 is really. Why not do 3 picks per player with random warlords?
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 19:51:58


Dr. Stupid 
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We thank you for your input, Chris!

Why the 2 day autoboot?
The 2 day autoboot has been the standard in LEA since the very beginning, so if any games are decided by it, it will probably be a non-LEA team that gets socked by it. (Which is why we specifically called it out as a warning).

Why this map?
Because one of my best friends in Warlight, NinjaNic made it. He is also the clan's Cartographer of Catastrophes (chief mapmaker). I have a tremendous amount of fun playing on his maps and would be happy to share that fun with any other players that also enjoy those sort of things!

As far as attack by percentage and distribution mode, you would have to consult our tournament director, Kasparov. He designs all our official tournament templates. I will be happy to bring this thread to his attention so he can come explain himself.

For better or for worse, the LEA focuses more on fun team play than on strategic purity. (Probably that's one reason why you rarely see an LEA tag high on a ladder. lol). Either way, I guarantee you all that I will have a blast playing these bad settings with my friends. If anyone feels they would not have fun playing these settings, I would personally recommend not participating in this particular event.
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 20:19:14


ChrisCMU 
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Yeah, I get that it isn't intended to be that strategic, but I am guessing %75 of players will end up not picking 50 spots and just leave it up to luck. Especially with no wastelands.

But if they do, 50 spots is very painful to have to pick. Especially when coordinating with 4 other players and the shorter boot time. If you compare it to a standard 3v3 Europe game, you have over twice the picks to make and 2/3 of the time to do them in.
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 21:29:09


ScarlettTD 
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There are an awful lot of strategic template tournaments floating around.

Anyone who has taken part in an LEA event has an opportunity to influence future events, and this Season's template is testament to that input.

You can't please all of the people all of the time, and the template for the season's matches is only one part of the enjoyment to be garnered from playing the game. We tend to focus more on team interaction.
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 21:36:48


Blortis 
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Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 21:49:15


Dr. Stupid 
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I see your point, but I'm not sure the math adds up...
If the template says 50 picks/player, that is certainly not correct. It's only 5 picks a player. I've played this exact template 3 times completely through, and all three times, I've only made 10-13 total picks and I've never seen more than 4 total lost picks by any one player. I'm assuming that I won't lose all my picks because the other team certainly won't be picking on top of themselves just like my team won't be.
Lol. Now you've got me thinking maybe I screwed up and posted the wrong template, but I'm on mobile, so I can't check. Lol. The suspense is killing me!
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 21:52:04


Dr. Stupid 
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I really, really, really hope that I get the chance to meet the AWF team on the field of battle!

(If the brackets don't help that happen, I might just set up an "outside of tournament" game to make sure it happens! Yeah, I want it that bad. Lol)
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 22:50:00


Blortis 
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Listen here, you pencil neck geek! You don't want to tangle with this group of oiled up hard bodys! We snack on danger & dine on death!

Edited 12/19/2014 22:50:49
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/19/2014 23:11:27


ScarlettTD 
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Chris is mostly right about picks per player. If there are 10 players in total with five picks each, then 50 territories will be selected, so each player should pick the best 50 territories. That doesn't always bear out: where the number of selectable territories is greater than 5 times the number of end result territories, or with a no-luck cycle, or in full distribution. In general though - it is a good rule of thumb, and we will look at it. Thanks Chris.
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/20/2014 11:43:20


Thomas 633
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this sounds fun.
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/20/2014 16:57:35


lmmtennis
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Confirm Saving Face
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/22/2014 03:51:49

{101st} Forgotten Knight
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Still accepting any teams!
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/22/2014 05:07:11

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Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/22/2014 15:48:07


ChrisCMU 
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Yeah, 50 picks is not required unless all 10 players pick the same 50 spots (in whatever order). Usually it is much less than than because you don't mirror your teammates %100.

Take a strat 2v2 game for example. You might pick different 1-2s, then the same the rest of the way. In that case you need 6 picks, not 8 because you did not overlap the first 2 picks.

But, in general you are going to be picking dozens of spots with your template (10 players x 5 picks each), or you are risking letting the AI pick for you. I've gotten to picks in the 20s on europe 3v3 (24 total picks) before. If I just picked a dozen I would have gotten auto picks after that.

It is your tournament, I am just trying to help out. I am betting most of these players would just pick a dozen spots and end up with auto picks. Hopefully my posts will help them understand why that is a bad idea and they will get better.
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/22/2014 19:02:43


Dr. Stupid 
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ChrisCMU,
If you were interested in putting a 5v5 strategic template together, I would love to play you on it! You could bring your own team or if you wanted, I could supply 9 + yourself and we could go random teams? I'm ALWAYS up for a team game with friends.
Thanks!
Open Invitation to the Season 3 LEA 5v5 Tournament: 12/23/2014 14:33:21


ChrisCMU 
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I'd play random teams with 9 of your guys, it does not have to be a clan challenge.

Hmm, I have not played many 5v5 templates. We used one in the Nations Cup that was fine (on the expanded europe map). I would think Rise of Rome would be OK for a 5v5 too.

Let me make a game with you and me, and you can let me know who else wants to play.
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