I think that every player should have a right to decide on his own if he want to start from 0 or not, so he could write somewhere that point from certain time/date do count. If somebody want to pretend to be weak, he can always make a new account, or set a newer date. But if somebody want their all games count, he should have a right for it. Not everybody will think as You and not everyboud would agree for starting from level 1.

hmm i agree it would be great if the system analyzed all the history and included the games that have been already played.. It shouldn't be that hard to program either considering that all the previous finished games are still stored and accessible..

I guess it was counterproductive as probably to many non-members would unlock to many member-only features...

It's like someone come to You Fizzer and said: sorry we have to take Your primary and secondary schools education, so Your studies are not valid anymore as well, cause the program thaught in primary and secondary did changed. Sorry, we didn't tell You before that it might happen, but we change the rules.

The same when You put some unfair ranking which count point only from last 30 days.
I think it's evil and wrong.

on the other hand - is it disappointing? yes. Is the WL2.0 disappointing? so far - yes - especially for those who've paid for the game. it's definitely less than anyone expected. But.. It's Fizzers site, and this whole mess of levels and achievements does not change the fact of how much work and effort HE put in this game so we all can play it.. And It's a very good game as it is, and as it was before 2.0.

Fizzer actually took all trophies from your previous game and added those to your trophies(and gave points for them)
The points you get for playing games start now(which also kinda makes sense, since you get points based on player-level which wasn't there yet) but are *not* erased as you seem to be understanding seroslav.pl, the points-overview is just a detailed summary of your last 30 days, while your total points and level(which is what counts i believe) are there to stay or go up.

And i agree about the journey-over-destination-thingy, i rather seek out that low-skilled high-level player for extra points then getting a message "you are now level 100+, congrats" after introduction of the system.

Powerneg but that You thing that way and that Fizzer think that way doesn't mean that everyone think that way and that everyone would agree that few years of them playing won't count it's ok. Maybe for some of them it's not ok and it's not fair, and I am among them. That's why I think that a person should have a right to decide on their own, instead of being forced to agree with Your or Fizzers point of view.

Own decision, not being forced.

It's like someone come to You Fizzer and said: sorry we have to take Your primary and secondary schools education, so Your studies are not valid anymore as well, cause the program thaught in primary and secondary did changed. Sorry, we didn't tell You before that it might happen, but we change the rules.

The same when You put some unfair ranking which count point only from last 30 days.
I think it's evil and wrong.

no it's not the same. in your example you lose a lot of things, but in warlight 2.0 nobody loses anything.

I feel I did lose. Noobs more active last days are a way ahead in those levels and if Fizzer won't change it some of them will be ahead forever, even if I did achieve more, played more, experienced more, spend more time, won more and are better then them. Is that fair? I don't think so it's fair comparison of players.

Seroslav why do you care about levels? What exactly do you want to acheieve from them? Also do you actually think anyone cares what level you are? It doesn't count for anything at all, even I know that :/ Since you are a non-member all you can gain from now on is new things, bigger games or tournaments for example.

And I am not a noob because I made it to level 10.

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=4635440

Those levels suppose to show experience or level of a player and they don't do that. They show just recent experience.

how did he make level ten anywyas? he is total shit player, 9/99 or something, i dont think nine wins gets you to lvel ten

My biggest problem is members have no idea what the journey even is. Why doesn't it show the achievements you are not unlocking because you already have the feature as a member? It makes members miss out on the entire system basically by not even knowing what happens at each level. It also makes members more tempted to just farm like crazy in hopes that they eventually see something besides the canned (you already have this feature statement).

Seroslav

here is your e-peen on Warlight:

Ranked Games
Completed 2319 ranked games (1255 / 2319)

1v1: 487 / 741 (66%)
3 player FFA: 14 / 36 (39%)
4 player FFA: 61 / 142 (43%)
5 player FFA: 47 / 129 (36%)
6 player FFA: 111 / 283 (39%)
7 player FFA: 1 / 6 (17%)
8 player FFA: 2 / 3 (67%)
9 player FFA: 1 / 3 (33%)
10 player FFA: 0 / 3 (0%)
11 player FFA: 1 / 5 (20%)
12 player FFA: 0 / 2 (0%)
14 player FFA: 0 / 3 (0%)
15 player FFA: 0 / 3 (0%)
16 player FFA: 0 / 1 (0%)
17 player FFA: 2 / 3 (67%)
18 player FFA: 0 / 1 (0%)
20 player FFA: 2 / 2 (100%)
21 player FFA: 0 / 1 (0%)
22 player FFA: 0 / 1 (0%)
23 player FFA: 3 / 3 (100%)
24 player FFA: 9 / 39 (23%)
2v2: 143 / 245 (58%)
2v2v2: 22 / 59 (37%)
2v2v2v2: 4 / 12 (33%)
2v2v2v2v2: 2 / 3 (67%)
2v2v2v2v2v2: 3 / 3 (100%)
2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2: 1 / 2 (50%)
2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2: 0 / 1 (0%)
2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2v2: 1 / 2 (50%)
3v3: 272 / 448 (61%)
3v3v3: 6 / 13 (46%)
3v3v3v3: 0 / 3 (0%)
3v3v3v3v3: 1 / 2 (50%)
3v3v3v3v3v3v3v3: 0 / 2 (0%)
4v4: 14 / 26 (54%)
4v4v4: 0 / 1 (0%)
4v4v4v4: 1 / 2 (50%)
4v4v4v4v4: 0 / 1 (0%)
5v5: 17 / 34 (50%)
5v5v5: 0 / 1 (0%)
5v5v5v5: 1 / 4 (25%)
6v6: 4 / 4 (100%)
6v6v6: 0 / 1 (0%)
6v6v6v6: 2 / 5 (40%)
7v7: 0 / 2 (0%)
7v7v7: 3 / 3 (100%)
8v8: 3 / 4 (75%)
8v8v8: 0 / 1 (0%)
9v9: 0 / 1 (0%)
10v10: 5 / 10 (50%)
11v11: 0 / 1 (0%)
12v12: 9 / 13 (69%)

It's still there! Everyone can have a look at it. Trust me. I just checked.
All is well.

It would be absolutely AWESOME if EACH level gave something PLUS something more if you are a member.

..just food for thought

Firdge there aren't that many things to give members which we don't already have, especially not 200 things...

and members ahve ladder games which give many more points than regular games

^ Points aren't useful because there is nothing to unlock, therefore the added points from ladder games are in no way a bonus to members. Just the fact that we can use the ladders.

members will probably start gettign enw features at around lvl 100

Yeah, anyone get that 25th player yet?