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Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 12:36:05

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i remember there used to be a clan ranking thread which gave me lots of LOLs, i think someone should revive it! :-)

Now, some people may argue that things like the clan league already does the job, however, the Clan league did not feature some clans and there were much incidents of players quitting halfway during the tournament.

I'll start something controversial and you guys can list your own opinions :-)

rankings based on average clan skill:

Apex
WM
WG
Ahol
Relite
{RSP}
[REGL] {CS}
VIW
101st/Lynx
WL ninjas
/RSP\
RP
[REGL]
MC
Dragon
Warlighters
Lighters
Juggernauts

i probably missed a few clans here and there, and clans with separate divisions like RSP, REGL and Warlighters get mentioned twice, but let the bickering begin :-)
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 13:01:33


Min34 
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Lynx is the same as the CS division of REGL, just an elite group.

I think you meant this thread: http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=5912

They had the ranking like this:

Apex
[WM]
AHOL
[WL]
CPU
[WG]
[REGL]
{warlighters}
FBG
[VIW]
[MC]
{RSP}
{101st}
[TUC]
Dragon
[KK]
Elite
[P]
[Zen-D]
{RING}

NOw, Relite didn't participate the first round (but somehow is allowed to start playing in the second round) and Elite does not really excist anymore.

My rankingw would be:
1 Apex
2 Relite
3 [WM]
4 Ahol
5 [WG]
6 [WL]
7 CPU
8 [VIW]
9 [REGL]
10 {RSP}
11 {warlighters}
12 [MC]
13 {101st}
14 FBG
15 [KK]
16 [P]
17 [TUC]
18 [Dragon]
19 [Zen-D]
20 {RING}

I didn't put RP in it, cause they aren't really a clan, but more a group of players that likes Role Play games, so they know who they can make those games with.

I think number 1, 2 and 3 are far above the rest. Then 4, 5 and 6 are also close to eachother. Same for 7,8 and 9. I also think that 10, 11, 12 and 13 are very very close together. The reason that [WM] is third is because some of their better members have become inactive.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 13:07:25


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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I'd have it like this:

1 Apex
2 WM
3 Relite
4 Ahol
5 [WG]
6 [WL]
7 CPU
8 Warlighters
9 [REGL]
10 VIW
11 101st
12 RSP
13 MC
14 Dragon
15 TUC
16 FBG
17 KK
18 P
19 [Zen-D]
20 {RING}
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 13:37:48


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Relite have some really good players, but then they have quite a few players like MG and Aranka who are only pretty good. Whereas with apex, apart from me, every single player is top-tier.

WM are kind of the same, they have a few players I've barely heard of. Like Lao Mao, who seems only to play real-time games on weird templates.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 13:55:59


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are you guys counting clan acivity as well lol?

the list says average clan skill, there are 3 members in RSP, i dont see how the combined skill of us 3. can be any worse CPU, Warlighters, REGL, VIW, which have like 50 members each. In fact, i think we would be 3rd, but our clan activity would be near bottom (we have no clan chat :P)

:)
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 14:04:00


Min34 
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That is why I put you in the middle, You guys are good players, but not very well organised :p
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 14:27:39


[WM] Gnuffone 
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I want just remember that on last clan League WM and apex ended with same points. And WM lost last 3 3v3 bc artham get inactive.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 14:31:24


Pink 
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I would say:

1- wm and apex [it is hard to say which is better]
2- relite
3 onwards- crap
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 15:58:07

Seahawks 
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MC RSP, and dragon are all dead clans
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 15:58:33

Seahawks 
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i agree with min34's list, with sliding in relite at third or fourth
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 16:08:12


Aranka 
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We all know people base the majority of these rankings on 1vs1 results by comparing players individually.
What people tend to forget is that an alliance isn't supposed to be just the sum of it's players. Factors which also factor in is their stability as a team and their performance when playing together.
While I think the average Apex player might be just slightly better then the average Relite player on 1vs1 strat, I would argue that in teamgames an average random team of 2 or 3 Relite players versus an equal amount of Apex players would win.

With regards to WM, they're indeed suffering from the loss of some active players. I used to know and recognize half of them, but so far there's only 4 of them I can really remember. Good players, but apart from Gnuffone not really a group which I would prescribe such an impact factor.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 17:04:54


[WM] Anonymous 
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Gnuffone is overrated
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 17:05:44


[WM] Anonymous 
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Apex: laomao obtained the best 1v1 result in the first clan league if i remember right. He is underrated, but overall a complete good player.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 17:32:03


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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My list:

1. Apex and WM
    even despite a few players like Trilussa, Artham, Tauceti and Szeweningen retired, we are still strong

2. ɌeLite
    mainly not due to skill, but simply because a few bad apples make some really bad PR for you. btw you guys DO have a few bad players in the clan but let's not start another bashing fest.. (bad like in relatively bad compared to WM/apex level - still better than average warlight player of course)

3. AHoL and WG
    AHoL so low, because they seem to get less and less active these days, which has visible impact on their gameplay.. (in fact i personally have the same problem at the moment tbh)
    WG so high on the other hand, because they improve very fast

4. REGL{cs}, 101[lynx], CK
    because these are the only groups that i know of that are capable of beating the abovementioned from time to time

5. VIW, CPU, WL, FBG,
    because i remember some good games with people from those. CPU and VIW would end up one point higher, but they have to many bad players and AFAIK unlike regl, or 101st they don't have an elitist group so i cannot be more specific, and i decided not to judge those clans by the strongest link

6-59.
    nothing besides individual players, but in my opinion it should not be treated as an overall determinant of clan quality

60. still nothing...

61-99. nothing here as well..

100. all the other clans

^ based solely on my personal experience, so if anyone feels his clan should be mentioned, i am sorry, but either i forgot or simply have not played enough games with you.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 17:52:17


[WM] Gnuffone 
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I agree at all with Roo.
Gnuffone is overrated

Isn't true.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 18:09:45


ChrisCMU 
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I think Roo's list is very accurate also.

I think I'd put Apex slightly ahead of WM right now based on the retirements, but I could see either winning the clan league.

I could see AHol and/or WG ahead of ReLite in the clan league as well, only because there is less depth in that clan. I don't know how many players they are using though. WG is using EVERY player that is active rather than just trying to stack with the best players. IMO, depth counts in a clan. One reason to be in a clan is to improve your level of play by being with other good players. I seriously doubt the top two in ReLite gain any benefit there from the rest of their clan.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 18:34:49


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I say:

1 Apex
2 WM
3 Relite
4 Ahol
5 [WG]
6 CPU
7 [WL]
8 VIW
9 101st
10 [REGL]
11 RSP
12 FBG
13 Warlighters
14 MC
15 TUC
16 Dragon
17 KK
18 P
19 [Zen-D]
20 {Ring}
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 19:03:32


[WM] Gnuffone 
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i don't agree on say Apex>WM
We ended tie on last Clan League.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 19:22:48


ChrisCMU 
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Well, you lost 4 players (didn't know one of them personally), and Apex gained a couple good players. I also think their presence on the ladders is better right now (like WM was a few months ago). To me that breaks the tie.

Like I said, I wouldn't write you off from #1 spot in this clan league though.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 19:28:30


Mudderducker 
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It is debatable both WM and Apex are obviously the best clans, they are just as good as each other. You both are capable of being number 1
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 19:56:10

Widzisz • apex 
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Everyone (except Aranka) put Apex at 1st place (or 1st ex aequo), sweet :D

Rankings are about clan strength at the moment, or overall / average throughout the last year or so?

If we look at longer time interval, I think WM should be first, without any doubt.
It have most players that reached 1st spot in the 1vs1 ladder, more than any other clan, and in total they hold 1st spot for the longest period of time. No other clan occupied spots 1-4 on the 1vs1 ladder, and top 2 at 2vs2 ladder. And WM maintain very high average level since more than 2 years, longer than any currently existing top clan.

If we talk only about current situation, I have no idea which clan is the best. I would say that best five seems to be: Ahol, Apex, Relite, WG, WM.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 20:01:54


NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex 
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1-2 Apex, WM

These two groups are really too close to distinguish much. I do know if I'm playing matches I'm more scared if I see an apex name come up than if I see a WM clan. I've been in both groups and if I had to pick I would think that WM might have one or two better players, but as a group apex would take the cake. Either way, they are too close to choose between.

3-4 AHoL, Relite

These groups play very differently and have different levels of activity. AHoL was created as a bunch of drunkards and a-holes so it's surprising they all ended up being as good as they are. I love the group though, wouldn't trade them for anything. Relite has good players and very bad PR. Relite overall is a good group though, I wouldn't discount them in the least because of their public relations people. AHoL on the other hand pulled off a surprising (and awesome for us) third place in the clan league, coming in first in the 3v3 tournament and a couple second places in others.

5-6 [WG], REGL

I don't especially know either of these groups well. I know WG has at least a few good players and more above average than not. REGL has their CS team which has good players in it, though they have also recruited (from what I remember last I checked them out) from the other end of the spectrum. I would be interested to see how they fared against each other in a clan battle. The CS team from REGL recently played against us and we edged them out but it's not like they just laid down and took a beating. We had to do everything we could to beat them.



Of course these are just my opinion but I feel it is a valid one. The groups are honestly too close which is why I ranked them in groups of two. On any given day I would say that most members of either group could beat most of the other group. Even between my groupings I believe that on any day members from AHoL or Relite could take most apex or WM players, but in a longevity contest with many many games, I believe they would end up close to this.

I'm excited to see where the clan league takes all the groups this year and what the final rankings will be.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 22:09:17


[WM] ᵀᴴᴱ𝓕𝓻𝓲𝓭𝓰𝓮 
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Noobschool - WM has come a long way from when you were in it.. nevertheless i agree with most you say and in 1v1 i'm usually more afraid of apex. in teamgames - it depends - i would say WM. but both clans have their favourite templates and game types and both consist of very good players.. i would not dare to say we have only two ;)
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 23:01:59


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oh boy, this is WL politics at its best... hahahhahaha

RSP challenges FBG, VIW, Warlighters, REGL, WL and CPU to clan war,any takers?
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 23:04:36


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actually take out VIW and Warlighers, we already played (and beat you) before. ;)

FBG, REGL, WL players want to play?
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 23:12:26


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I agree pretty much with Noobschool for the most part, although the assumption "though they have also recruited (from what I remember last I checked them out) from the other end of the spectrum" is somewhat true, but a little off the mark. We have recruited some members from the lower end of the spectrum, but most of our members that we've recently recruited are more "average". Some are at the low end (although they understand the game and can play well enough), but then there are also those like Nich who have proven that they can compete at a higher level.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 23:14:45


NecessaryEagle 
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REGL is regrettably going through some issues of low activity, especially in our CS division, so we won't be able to accept new challenges at this time. We plan on being able to compete more in the near future.
Clan rankings!!!: 7/3/2013 23:55:38


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we have 3 players, maybe you guys can field 3 players too and we have a few games? I played a few 3v3s against entire CS teams not long ago, maybe i can talk to them?
Clan rankings!!!: 7/4/2013 00:15:37

Seahawks 
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let me guess, the three players, pulsey, pulsey, and pulsey?
Clan rankings!!!: 7/4/2013 00:54:40


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i'd love to, but its z-dog, me and superhuge
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