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States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 20:49:54


ChrisCMU 
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Just for the fun of it (and to put JSA's list from here: http://warlight.net/Forum/Thread?ThreadID=58319&Offset=0 to use), I am going to do a competition based on the states. Here are the rules:

Round 1 - Players from each state will compete in a RR (I will limit this to first 10 people to sign up from a given state to limit the size) to win their state. Format will be 1v1 Ladder template.

Round 2 - State champs will compete in regions to go to the national tournament. This will again be 1v1 ladder format (but on MME), with a RR between the following state champions...

Regions (12):
NW - WA, OR, ID, MT, AK
SW - CA, NV, UT, AZ, HI
Mountain - WY, UT, CO, NM
South - TX, OK, AR, LA
Plains - ND, SD, NE, KS
SE - MS, AL, GA, FL
North - MN, WI, IA, MI
Central - MO, IL, KY, TN
Atlantic - SC, NC, VA, MD, DC
Valley - IN, OH, WV, PA
Metro - DE, NY, NJ, CT
NE - VT, RI, MA, ME, NH

Round 3 - National Championships with the winners of regions. This will be on 3 formats (1v1 Battle Islands, 2v2 Guiroma, 3v3 Europe) with most total points in Round 3 being crowned the winner.

If you are interested, please let sign up here. I will attempt to contact some of the smaller states, but the larger ones will be first come first serve. Please list what state you are competing for (to make it easier). Also, I may combine some states with little interest and possibly shift some states into another region (to make RR's a decent size). For example. If NE only has 5-6 players total for all the states, I will combine it as a single state and roll it into Metro region. ID/MT may have to be combined. States with a single player will have to be folded into another so we don't have 'cheap' champions. I will have to decide that after I see participants sign up.

Edited 10/13/2014 21:00:16
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 21:03:26


Gundisalvus 
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YEAHHHHH. Let's do this. SC State Championship is gonna be rough for the rest of y'all!
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 21:06:37


ChrisCMU 
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OK, no need to post here anymore unless your state is not correct (some mentioned theirs was). Instead, join this:

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=12120

That will be considered signing up.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 21:17:50


ChrisCMU 
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Slammy asked and makes a great point, you don't have to be in a clan. But you do need to be from the USA.

Also...NO ALTS
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 21:23:59


Lawlz
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I'm not on the list, can you add me?
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 21:27:47


ChrisCMU 
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Join the tournament, but I will add you.

Also, if we end up having to combine some states, I may do winner and runner up advance to round 2, just to make the 2nd round large enough. We shall see once everyone signs up.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 21:56:49


master of desaster 
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this Event is so racist. but i like it.

Edited 10/13/2014 21:57:26
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 22:12:12


ChrisCMU 
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How is it racist? By only being american? There are lots of races in USA.

There is already a Nations Cup for international play.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 22:18:17


master of desaster 
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Yes it wasn't meant to be serious :) i would like to make also a swiss cantonal champ. But i get the feeling that wouldn't work out very well ^^
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 22:54:01


Jefferspin 
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Im from Illinois not Indiana. Sounds fun.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/13/2014 23:09:45


Master Miyagi • apex 
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what is with the 2v2, and 3v3. I will purposely lose in order to avoid that :)
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 00:53:56


ChrisCMU 
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Well we could do just solo games but that does not test teamwork at all. I put off team games until the 3rd round so only region champs would be in play, thus competative teams. Do you think it should be all solo?
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 02:52:27


Wenyun 
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If anyone wants Round 2 in map form, here's it overlaid with the clan map. Apparently, though, Utah doesn't know where it's supposed to be.

(NE [Red] and SE are supposed to be NW and SW, sorry)


And totals for regions...
NW: 39
SW: 98 (114 with Utah)
MT: 25 (41 with Utah)
SO: 69
PL: 11
NO: 74
CE: 108
SE: 83
VA: 92
AT: 85
ME: 99
NE: 40

Edited 10/14/2014 02:59:12
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 04:13:16


Jefferspin 
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Only problem with team games is that you are really dependent on who you are paired with. It can't be an even playing field no matter what. I think it should be 1v1 personally.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 04:43:09


ChrisCMU 
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Ok, we can keep it all solo games no problem.

Thanks for the map Riyamite. I will remake the regions once we have a good idea of the number of players from each state
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 05:28:32

JSA 
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I was actually planning on using my list to have state competitions and a whole USA competition but with a different format :(

My idea was to follow a format more like the Olympics. As in 10-15 different settings ranging from 1v1 to 3v3 and you can represent your state in any that you choose and each tournament will be played in an elimination format with games manually set up. At the end, around 20 players win gold medals and whichever state has the most gold medals is the "champion state".

I don't know if we can do them both at the same time :( kinda makes me mad that I didn't write my plan for this event earlier :( I'll make a chat game with Chris and we can figure out how this can work so they don't interfere with each other.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 11:18:09


ChrisCMU 
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I posted the suggestion in your thread, but you did not answer. You must have missed it but i figured you were not interested. Go ahead and run yours, we can use my invite list to get it started
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 12:46:14


Mablung
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Connecticut isn't included in New England by the way. Which is technically not correct, but the rest of NE will probably not care. Connecticut is the butt of many jokes in the north country.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 12:55:12


Richard Sharpe 
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Connecticut doesn't deserve to be in New England. Too many New Yorkers to be allowed in.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 12:57:42


Mablung
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100% agree, Connecticut is Tri state in my book, they are not NE.

Also, this map seems pretty analogous to population across the US...except for Utah. Warlight big among the Mormons? I've ran into all kinds of Mormons here in Korea, so I've seen them in stranger places.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 13:38:35


ChrisCMU 
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The problem with the state with most medals idea is that it would be a stacked field. Only a few states really have a chance at that (like Texas). It's about as anti-climactic as Olympic basketball.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 13:53:00


slammy 
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chris- please don't cancel yours-- i'd prefer a 1v1 state thing to a big international, multi-event circus
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 13:59:31


Beren • apex 
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I agree, don't cancel this. I don't think the two need be mutually exclusive anyway, since in one you're competing with the people in your state and in the other against them
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 14:25:40


ChrisCMU 
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I think what I will do is continue mine and see what ideas JSA has, then maybe he can run an international one after USA
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 14:31:40


ChrisCMU 
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I am still mulling over doing team play in finals though. I don't like it just being solo competition. But to do it right, I would need to do a RR mixed teams format so that everyone plays with everyone to make it fair. I will continue to look at that option and see if it can work (depends on how many region champions there are. If only 6, it could be done I think.

3v3 is possible. 6 players would result in 10 matchups:

123 456
124 356
125 346
126 345
134 256
135 246
136 245
145 236
146 235
156 234

But 2v2 is too many games I think for 6 players. with 4 it is possible:

12 34
13 24
14 23

Edited 10/14/2014 15:02:56
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 15:29:07


ChrisCMU 
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So this is my thinking to include team games...


Round 1 - States
1v1 RR on Strat ME(10 players max each), winner and runner up advance from each state)

Round 2 - Regionals
1v1 RR on Battle Islands (8-10 way RR) for each region. Winner and runner up advance (A1, A2, B1, B2...)

Round 3 - National Semifinals (12 players)
2v2 RR on China (3 groups, all combinations of teams = 3 games each group).
1v1 RR on Guiroma (3 groups, = 4 games)
-Top 2 from each group (total points) advance
Group X: A1, F1, B2, E2
Group Y: B1, D1, C2, F2
Group Z: C1, E1, A2, D2

Round 4 - National Finals (6 players)
3v3 RR on Europe (all combinations of matchups = 10 games)
1v1 RR on Strat MME (5 games each)
-Total points in Finals is champion.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 17:00:05


Master Turtle 
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I'll help represent Michigan. I'll join when I get access to a computer.
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 20:05:20


Wenyun 
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Also, this map seems pretty analogous to population across the US...except for Utah. Warlight big among the Mormons? I've ran into all kinds of Mormons here in Korea, so I've seen them in stranger places.
Utah isn't the worst outlier in that map in relation to population. Check the other thread (linked in the first post) for a map on who's the worst outliers. (It's near the end of the second page)

But 2v2 is too many games I think for 6 players.

Each row accounts for 3 games, 2 played by each team.
12 34 56
12 35 46
12 36 45
13 24 56
13 25 46
13 26 45
14 23 56
14 25 36
14 26 35
15 23 46
15 24 36
15 26 34
16 23 45
16 24 35
16 25 34

15 x 3 = 45 games, 30 games per player
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 21:18:58


ChrisCMU 
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^right. too many to do it that way, so I separated into pools/groupings
States of Warlight clan players - National Champ: 10/14/2014 22:37:57

E Masterpierround
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this should be fun! fellow michigan players: I will hate your guts through the state round, but cheer for you all the rest of the way!
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