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CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/5/2013 07:02:46


Guiguzi 
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looks good. i like the turns and w-l stats. when will it start spitting out new games?
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/5/2013 07:10:58


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the formula is that new games are created whenever the pending number of games drops below half the possible tiers.

right now there are 3 games going and 3 tiers of players available.

so 3 more games will be created when there is only 1 game left pending unless enough folks join to make 4 tiers possible, then we only have to wait for one of the games to finish instead of two.
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/5/2013 20:31:32


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I have noticed this only now and would like to participate. And thanks for working CLOT!!
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/6/2013 09:24:24


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Mirror: added
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/6/2013 11:23:28


ps 
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first game seems to have finished, found a couple of bugs on the update of stats, seems to be fixed now.
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/9/2013 21:45:47


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was just posting a reply to Gui on another thread which got me thinking on how to determine the end of one season of this ladder (where the scores would reset). We had already established it would be cool that the winner of the season would decide the template for the next season. I was originally thinking of just letting the ladder run for a couple of months but it just occured to me it might be more interesting to make the season end whenever one of the players reaches a certain number of won games. I'm thinking 10.

Opinions?
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/9/2013 22:27:41


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How long would it take to get to 10 wins (assuming %65 win rate)? I'm not sure how often a person would get a game.
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/9/2013 23:36:42


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haven't made the math, i'm guessing each game takes something like a week or two. so to reach 10 wins at 65% win rate... it takes... a lot more then a couple of months. probably close to a year. hmmm...

how about the first person reaching a multiple of 3 wins picks the new template?

and the results would not reset until reaching 12 wins. should still be something like 9 months worth of random 3vs3 games but atleast the template will change every month or two months.
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/13/2013 13:05:37


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Another game finished which prompted 3 more games to get created.

Gnuffone seems is leading at this point.

Any more opinions on when to change the template and/or end the season?
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/13/2013 13:06:35


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Gnuffone seems to be, and in fact is, leading. At the same time!
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/13/2013 13:17:32


Guiguzi 
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increase the game count so everyone has 2 games? end once everyone plays 5? then we play eu 3v3, the sexiest game in town?
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/13/2013 15:20:15


powerpos
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can i still enter ?
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/13/2013 16:34:57


[WM] Gnuffone 
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I agree with 3v3 eu
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/13/2013 22:24:13


ps 
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powerneg: sorry, members only. :(
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/17/2013 13:26:13


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problem with making more games is that some folks don't like to have too many games, and there is no way to configure the number of games like in the normal warlight ladders, and still have it somehow fair.

hmmm... thinking about it i guess i could allow for users to configure their own number of games if i implement some sort of game expiration date and instead of creating games per tiers of ranking, they just throw together any 6 players that are still looking for more games.

opinions?

also, this seems more or less table now, and still only 20 players interested in participating? where are the hordes of folks that kept asking for different ladders and tournaments and what not?
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/17/2013 13:31:16


ps 
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*table = stable :)
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/17/2013 13:33:02


[WM] Gnuffone 
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make a Eu 3v3 4 spot cities 0% weighted random and you will get at least 50 ppl.
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/17/2013 13:39:08


[WM] Gnuffone 
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also much people don't like play with random teammate.
i am sure too tahe if you put fiz team, you will get more player.
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/17/2013 13:44:05


Guiguzi 
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eu 3v3. that's what the hordes cry for.
CLOT East Asia 3vs3 Random Teams Ladder: 4/19/2013 20:53:03


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some updates:

As you might have noticed now there are 2 3vs3 CLOT ladders running.
The link to access them is this:
http://tpolm.org/~ps/wl_clot/

The new ladder will remain Europe Warlords 3vs3 Fixed Teams.
http://www.tpolm.org/~ps/wl_clot/europe3vs3

And this one (previously known as East Asia 3vs3) will become a rotational template ladder. Gui helped me pick the templates. All of them are 0% straight round, so the ladder remains members only. Sorry non-members.
http://www.tpolm.org/~ps/wl_clot/random3vs3

These are the templates in place right now:

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=290970
Strategic East Asia

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301803
Europe Warlords

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301787
Medium France

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301673
Europe Cities

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301792
Battle Islands IV

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=301801
Imperium Romanum

When a new round of games is up for creation the algorythm will count how many games have been played on the previous templates and use the template that has been used the least. So they will rotate.

There is a plan to replace templates, it will only occur when the leader of the ladder reaches a number of games multiple of 10. At that point we have a poll and decide which template to replace, the leader gets to pick the replacement (might even be the same if he's cruel enough).

I'm also thinking of doubling the number of created games. The first batch will remain as it is (random teams amongst the 6 tiered players). The second batch will create teams pairing 2 players of the highest tier with one of the lowest and set them against each other.

If you play 3v3 games with other members please inform them about the ladder, the more folks involved the more fun it becomes.

To join you just have to post me a request. To leave the ladder you either post me a request, decline one of the games or get booted from one of the games.
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