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The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 12:18:38


szeweningen 
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Hello,

First I'd like to ask Fizzer or any forum moderator to make this thread notable since I'd really like to get as many replies as possible.

Season II of 20 is almost over and it made me think a bit about the format of the games. Again there was some boot involvement that made it harder for some players so the end results will not be completely accurate leaving some "what if" questions unresolved. Anyway I think there is an alternative system that'd make boots less important and would have less impact and that is to make the system composed of several smaller stages. Also in my experience small RR's are played relatively quickly. Anyway I'd like to run this event as an alternative to 20 (I won't participate in it) possibly being a continuation of it if there is enough responce. The Champions League would be composed of several stages which I will explain step-by-step:

1) First I need 32 players that'll want to participate, of course the idea is to get top 32 players.
2) They'll be divided into 3 tiers, 1-8, 9-16, 17-32.
3) I'll make 8 groups (A-H) randomly drawing players into them with the rule being there must be only 1 tier 1 and tier 2 player in each group. The rest will be determined randomly.
4) Every group will start an internal 1vs1 RR and 3 simultaneous 2vs2 games (they'll play in each combination with themselves), making it 4 games at a time total.
5) Each win will be worth 1 point, in case of a need of a tie-breaker the 1vs1 result will serve as one.
6) Top 2 advance, making it 16 people total.
7) We make the exact same thing as in the 1st round except we have 4 groups now with the rule being 2 1st place players and 2 2nd place players in each group.
8)Top 2 of each group advance making it 8 people remaining.
9)8 people make 2 groups again and repeat the same thing, top 2 advance making it to semifinals.
10) Play-offs will be a best of 5 between 2 players, playing a 1vs1, 2vs2, 3vs3,2vs2 and 1vs1 game in that order (multiaccounts needed for that phase).
11) The winner of the playoff phase will be the winner of Warlight Champions League, there will also be a 3rd place match in the same best of 5 format.


So in short:
8 groups of 4 ---> top 2 advance ---> random draw
4 groups of 4 ---> top 2 advance ---> random draw
2 groups of 4 ---> top 2 advance ---> seeded semifinals (1st place of group A vs 2nd place of group B)

Anyway I think every single group stage should be played relatively quickly + having to play with random teammates might reduce the boot factor. I don't know yet what to do about the templates, they'll definitely be randomised betweed 1st, 2nd, 3rd round and semifinals, but i'm not yet sure in what way (i'll give templates, and let people vote, or maybe just pick them myself). Anyway I'll give it 1-2 weeks and start inviting people (tiers will be determined on past 20 results, personal experience or general consensus). Also the advantage of that format is that the partial results can be viewed quicker, so it'll be possible to make live events based around commentary and analysing particular groups etc..
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 13:02:38


hedja 
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Good idea, also it would be interesting if Lolo, Myth and you could go over the best games in the live streams when you need to fill up time :)
I would be happy to play, however if it is only the top 32 players in WL I don't think I would make the cut.
It's good to see you trying to make it more interesting for everyone though.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 13:44:08


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nice idea, but still feels like a lot of games, people might still lose interest or get booted half way through imho. and there is the problem that if one of the round robins gets stalled by a player on holidays everything else is on hold for the next round. might end up quite dragged out. but maybe CLOT could be used to set the games manually and bypass stalled games. guess the only way to know if it really works is to test it out.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 13:45:43


szeweningen 
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ps, every round is composed of 6 games total for every players and 2vs2 games are played simultaneously. I expect every round to be finished very quickly.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 14:22:35


[WM] Gnuffone 
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i'm in. Great idea Sze.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 14:48:47


NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex 
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I don't quite know where I qualify in terms of top whatever, but I would like to play if you think I'm good enough.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 14:52:09


Ineffable 
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I don't think I'm a top 32 player or a top 64 player but if you have a free spot I would like to join
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 14:59:11

Hennns
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Willing to participate, I guess I`m pretty far away from top 32 But if there`s a spot :)
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 15:28:30

Heyheuhei 
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If there is spot for me, i am in :/
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 15:29:44

Widzisz • apex 
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Very nice idea. Hope it will work out well.
When will it start? Once you collect 32 players willing to play, once most top players response, or you have fixed date in mind?
I haven't decided yet if I want to be a cannon fodder here :P
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 15:50:48


szeweningen 
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Since 20 is 1-2 games away from end I think it may be very soon. As soon as I get 32 players (of course the better the players join the better it is for the whole event) I will start making draws. After I make the groups I'll make a new thread, announce templates and make tournaments and games.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 16:54:09


The Defiler 
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That sounds interesting. I'd like to join.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 17:12:30


Clifford The Big Red Dog 
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I would like to join if you cant get enough better players than me
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 18:39:48

JSA 
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I like the idea and I'd be interested in playing (If I make the cut). I'd say a good idea to get players for it is to defnitely invite all the A League players in [20], and I can link you the B League tournametns if you want so you can see how some of the guys did in them.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 19:00:38


Master Miyagi • apex 
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Miyagi like idea, same with Ryan if you can't find enough players better i'll play.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 19:03:38

Seahawks 
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i will play if there is spot
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 19:13:06


his balls. 
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I would play that.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 19:53:18


szeweningen 
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JSA, I'd like to see B league standings, my invite list is relatively short.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 20:35:26


[WG] Warlightvet 
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i'd like to play if possible, i'm doing pretty well in 1V1 B league, slightly less in 2V2... you know that feeling when your partner "didn't notice the wastelands"? -.-
The Warlight Champions League: 3/10/2013 21:50:42


Aranka 
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I'll not be playing in this new season for I know of myself I'm not good enough to make the cut yet.

If it's possible though I would like to apply as a contestant for season IV
The Warlight Champions League: 3/11/2013 17:57:26


[WM] แต€แดดแดฑ๐“•๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ฐ๐“ฎ 
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Aranka - this thread is NOT about [20]. This is something new. It doesn't hurt to read the original post before you reply...
The Warlight Champions League: 3/11/2013 18:48:06


Aranka 
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I READ the original post, but even so I don't have the time to analyze every single detail sweningen is trying to write.
In that case though I would like to apply for the second season of HIS template as opposed to the fourth season of 20.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/11/2013 21:09:02


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Aranka, I am available if you need a secretary/personal assistant.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/11/2013 22:00:14


TheWarlightMaster 
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Id like to participate
The Warlight Champions League: 3/12/2013 04:52:57


MilitaryManiac 
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I will play if needed
The Warlight Champions League: 3/12/2013 11:17:06


Niko 
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look good, Id like to participate.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/12/2013 15:42:45


szeweningen 
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The templates for 1st round will be Guiroma 2vs2 and strat 1vs1 (both with 16% luck changed to 0%). Templates for next rounds will be announced right before the start of the round reducing template experience factor.
The Warlight Champions League: 3/13/2013 00:16:10


szeweningen 
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The Warlight Champions League: 3/14/2013 00:03:10


Níðhöggr
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Yeah, Tim will win for sure. No question about it. Clear favorite here. (Feel any pressure Tim?)
The Warlight Champions League: 3/15/2013 14:14:55


Turing
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I like the format, but based on the response rate, it might make sense to reserve 10 spots for the winners of play-in tournaments. This is similar to what they actually do in the champions league, and gives lessor known players a chance to prove themselves.
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