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Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 12:21:48


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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3v3 EU Ladder (Random Teams)
Pop up for Real Time Ladder.
1v1 Ladder reduced luck to 0% WR.
1v1 Ladder Rating calculated in dual mode (detailed above).
Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 12:22:50


[WM] Gnuffone 
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random teams will make big problem...
Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 13:31:18


his balls. 
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Two big things for me. A random teams seasonal.

A pop up for turns in rt ladder.
Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 13:50:49


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Gnuffone why?
Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 13:58:14


Mablung
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Idk if anyone has mentioned 3v3 euro ladder yet /s

But pretty please 3v3 euro :D
Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 14:10:15


[WM] Gnuffone 
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yes we all mentioned eu 3v3 ladder :D

@Arun: with random teamamtes in 3v3, less pppl will join. Most of team want play with friend in teams.
Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 14:26:39


Mablung
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"/s" significa sarcasmo :)

ma non e negativo, plus o meno scherzo
Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 14:29:42


[WM] Gnuffone 
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ok :)
Ladder changes polls: 8/27/2014 15:25:49


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Yeah, at first glance I thought random team 3v3 europe would be cool. but unless the match making is done REALLY well, it could suck. I don't want some noob on my team.

Perhaps a random team seasonal is a better idea to try the idea out first and get it right. Leave 3v3 europe as set teams.
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 14:03:27


[HL] nnn 
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a lot to read so i'll wait for the available votes ...

but a 3v3 team (static) ladder would be very nice to play !!!

... even 4v4 or 5v5 of course too ...

but 3v3 seems to be the most wanted so far !

Edited 8/28/2014 14:05:16
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 14:04:53


[WM] Gnuffone 
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yes @nnn.
Most of players say the want a 3v3 ladder =)
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 14:44:07


Darkpie 
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New ladders, such as 3v3, are certainly possible but I want this poll to focus on changes to the existing ones. Honestly, the biggest reason 3v3 ladder hasn't happened yet is because I'm not an experienced 3v3 player so I'm not really qualified to make it. I keep hoping someone will make a CLOT one to iron out all the kinks. If I had more time I'd make a CLOT one myself and try to hand it off to someone.



Make a CLOT Gnuff :D
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 14:48:44


[WM] Gnuffone 
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BS.

PS already tried the CLOT.
He run it for 3 mothns. IT worked.
Time for Fizzer to make the 3v3 EU ladder

Edited 8/28/2014 14:58:52
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 14:55:51


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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+1
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 16:28:03

Memele 
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One question, for the rating issue:
Could we use the same ELO system as chess?

It's only a suggestion, I don't know how trueSkill goes and if that it's better or not :P But i'm fmailair with chess and the rating system, being not perfect, is better than the one we use here (In my opinion).
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 16:34:08


[WM] Gnuffone 
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check previous post, i already explained trueskill is better. ;)
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 17:57:24

Memele 
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The only reasons I read were that TrueSkill is better because is dynamic and not static, and I agree with that, but the chess ELO is static too.
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 18:00:13


[WM] Gnuffone 
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The bayesElo is common call ELO raing. Is the rating system we use in 1v1 2v2 and seasonal ladder ATM.
Is dynamic, each time one of player you played before change rating, influence your rating as well.
Is based in 2 thing: win rate and average rating of opponent you played.
In trueskillmeant (that we use in realtime ladder) is static (count only the true skill meant at the moment you played your opponent).
Is based by 2 thing: true skill meant that measure your skill, and varation, that you need to have <145 for get a rank. The forumla is TrueSkill - 3*Varation.

I can safety say, the second is much better.
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 18:39:33

Memele 
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I'm not speaking of the same elo system. I'm speaking of the Elo system used in chess that is static and not dynamic.
In chess your ranking is modified each game taking into account the elo diference and the result (win, lose or draw). When the game is finished and the Elo modified that result doesn't afect you anymore.

I agree that TrueSkill is better than the elo we use now, I only asked if chess elo could be another option.
Ladder changes polls: 8/28/2014 21:49:36

Hennns
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system
http://remi.coulom.free.fr/Bayesian-Elo/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrueSkill


Note: Trueskill is a modified version of the EloRatingSystem, it was developed by microsoft to be used for their XBox games. It will proably be simmilar to the EloRatingSystem. However I think certain factors in the EloRatingSystem is better for warlight. specifically the k factor. The k factor controls how much your rating can change based on how high your rating is (and time, but that's not relevant for wl), the higher your rating, the less it will change. I think that would be great for waright.
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