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Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 07:40:02


professor dead piggy 
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Stop stalling and develop some skill. Every single ladder staller including good ones like timinator and gnuffone are shit. You are tragic little ego monsters, everyone knows and deep down they judge you. Salvage some integrity by apologising, and take your rightful place in the top ten with pride.

Edited 8/15/2014 07:43:34
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 08:34:42


Timinator • apex 
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Show me the games i'm clearly stalling and i'll take this thread serious :)
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 08:52:56


professor dead piggy 
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You stalled when you were playing the dunga account. I would never do something so basic as to try and make you take this thread seriously.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 11:58:54


Richard Sharpe 
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But Piggy, it's JUST A GAME!

Don't take it so seriously, jeesh. You think they take it seriously when they painfully drag out games as long as humanly possible so that they may attain ever higher ratings?
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 12:33:15


ChrisCMU 
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WG people don't stall. They make legit ladder runs. I don't like stalling myself, though i am not sure i would go as far as you on bashing them either :)
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 12:39:11


master of desaster 
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Maybe bashing them is the way to go. If we want the first rank to have a meaning and can't change the system, we have to change the acceptance to stalling.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 12:51:18


Red Menace
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@Richard, Warlight isn't a game! YOU THINK THIS IS A DAMN GAME?! Is this all it is to you?! Warlight is life! It's WAR-LIFE! And Fizzer is the rightful God of Warlight! Repent your sins!
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 12:55:25

Good Kid 
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"WG people don't stall. They make legit ladder runs."

You remind me of the idiots in grandmaster starcraft 2 that bashed gaulzi for making it to GM with what they deemed cheese.

ie. "We don't cheese here in GM, we play long macro games."

Except in this case it's worse, because you're as biased as possible.

Unless you'd like to analyze the following games and explain to me how they are in fact not stalling, or how marc2013 is not actually a member of WG, I'm going going to go with the alternative premise that you're full of shit and defending your clan simply because it's your clan.

Marc stalling, for about a month: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5616037
Marc stalling, for about three weeks: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5616028
Marc stalling, for about three weeks, vs. his own clanmate: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=5666588
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 13:06:58


Richard Sharpe 
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How was that breeze Yeezus? Must have been pretty cooling as my point zipped right over your head...
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 15:04:13


ChrisCMU 
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Wow, why be a dick to me Good Kid? We had this discussion about marc a few weeks ago and I looked at a bunch of his ladder games and did not find ANY stalling. I obviously did not look at this section of games, and clearly he stalled a few games. Do you expect me to review EVERY game of EVERY player in my clan to check for it?

Don't be such a dick. Clearly he stalled a few games and I was wrong. Deal with it. By and large our members do not stall though.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 15:25:03


Red Menace
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richy i waz playin doe
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 15:32:26


nich 
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Is this recent and/or obvious enough timi?
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6761106
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 15:36:52


desi
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nich i don't consider that as stalling. maybe the last 2 turns wet a bit long but stalling is more for me.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 15:39:43


nich 
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There are more blatant less recent examples but this was right there waiting.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 15:46:32


ChrisCMU 
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Taking max time for a couple turns is not stalling for me. That person might be just busy. I consider stalling to be taking max time or close to it for many turns when you already know the game is lost. Clearly marc did that in the 3 above.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 15:59:39


Beren • apex 
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Stalling like most things is not a binary yes-no sort of thing. That game that nich posted has some stalling, but of course it is not nearly as bad as one in which a lost game is stalled for weeks. I've definitely played some games where I was behind and took a few turns slowly because I didn't want to admit to myself that the game was over, but I do that as much in tournaments as in the ladder, and obviously stalling in a tournament doesn't help you any.

I have also observed that it's not all that enjoyable to be in that situation, since it increases the amount of time I spend thinking about games in which I'm playing poorly, when it's much more enjoyable to think about games in which I am playing well :P

Edited 8/15/2014 16:41:34
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 17:28:07


[WM] แต€แดดแดฑ๐“•๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ฐ๐“ฎ 
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Edited 8/15/2014 17:28:26
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 18:14:20


Silver 
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Wow, why be a dick to me Good Kid? We had this discussion about marc a few weeks ago and I looked at a bunch of his ladder games and did not find ANY stalling. I obviously did not look at this section of games, and clearly he stalled a few games. Do you expect me to review EVERY game of EVERY player in my clan to check for it?

Don't be such a dick. Clearly he stalled a few games and I was wrong. Deal with it. By and large our members do not stall though.

Pointing out the obvious isn't being a dick, he is blunt like that deal with it.

WG wasn't a topic until you came with that "holier-than-thou my WG is beyond stalling" attitude.
You had this coming, next time don't speak until you're spoken to.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 18:21:41


ChrisCMU 
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You don't think this is being a dick?:

"You remind me of the idiots in grandmaster starcraft 2 that bashed gaulzi for making it to GM with what they deemed cheese."

"I'm going going to go with the alternative premise that you're full of shit and defending your clan simply because it's your clan."


Why couldn't he simply point out the games he posted as say something like "what do you call these?" Then I could have simply said, you are right, I never saw those. Instead he decided to call me both an idiot, and full of shit without even waiting for me to respond to his evidence.

That is being a dick in my book.

Edited 8/15/2014 18:22:27
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 18:25:46


Silver 
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That is being a dick in my book.

In this case I think we should all be thankful that your book doesn't decide the fate of the universe.
People are so sensitive these days. :)
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 19:08:32


Richard Sharpe 
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Chris, being a dick is also claiming that your organization would never deign to do something which it in fact has done. Don't speak with such certainty when you clearly don't have it. Never mind the fact that holier-than-thou attitudes are rarely well received.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 19:31:39


ChrisCMU 
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Fair enough, but I came back and admitted my mistake. And to be fair I did not say WG people have NEVER stalled, just that they don't (which I believed to be true). And as I said when this came up weeks ago (it was a topic about who has made #1 legitimately), I looked at the games when marc got #1 and he did not stall. Obviously he did during another run that I did not look at.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 19:47:25


{rp} Clavicus Vile 
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Agreed with OP. It's very lame.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 21:05:27


Timinator • apex 
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Is this recent and/or obvious enough timi?
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6761106


Would you call this stalling already? After breaking Ant I spent 2 days to think about how to lower my army-disadvantage, fishing for mistakes from him. Then I see 13 deploy and ask myself if it was Scand+Reinf or if he took Greenland already. So I decided to try another turn in case it was only the card. Then I see 18. I surrender.
Stalling? I'd say no

Edited 8/15/2014 21:06:24
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/15/2014 22:05:23


Ace Windu 
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Yeah I agree, that game wasn't stalled.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/20/2014 16:16:57

Kantos
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I want kill 13CHRIS37 and Timinator because its my time to shine and they keep stalling to stay first and second

13CHRIS37:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6758257
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6715405

and Timinator :
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6826355 (come on who takes 2 days and 23 hour and 29 min to make a move)

Edited 8/20/2014 16:40:23
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/20/2014 16:48:39


Timinator • apex 
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Nasty me, not taking my turns directly when turn advanced.
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/20/2014 17:00:34


[WM] แต€แดดแดฑ๐“•๐“ป๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ฐ๐“ฎ 
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kantos - i often take that long. regardless of situation - i mostly move on the third day, and depending on real-life activities that day, sometimes just a few minutes before autoboot...
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/20/2014 17:24:18


Angry Beavers
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lol @ kantos, that first game you posted there... he didn't stall. Dont blame everyone for stalling because they play slow
Are you a ladder staller? I have a message for you: 8/20/2014 17:36:56


Ace Windu 
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Being a crybaby may be just as bad as being a staller.
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