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Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 02:44:03

JSA 
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Here are the tournament links to the Clan League:

1v1:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3331
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3334
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3335
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3336

2v2:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3337
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3338

3v3:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3339


Point Standings So far and how many points they have lost:

1. [WM]: 94-12
2. Apex: 83-12
3. (AHoL): 84-29
4. [WL]: 64-28
5. [WG]: 52-27
6. CPU: 69-42
7. {Warlighters}: 62-49*
8. [REGL]: 64-51
9. {RSP}: 49-41* **
10. [VIW]: 39-35* **
11. [MC]: 62-61
12. FBG: 55-65
13. Dragon: 34-60
14. {101st}: 34-78
15. [KK]: 24-69*
16. [Zen-D]: 21-75 **
17. [P]: 20-131
18. {RING}: 10-89* **


* means that they did not have their players compete in at least one of the tournaments and their clan will not gain any points from the tournament they did not compete in. This doesn't make a difference with these standings but will hurt the clan later on.
** means that they had a player in more than one tournament of the same setting which will cost them 8 points for each player that did this.

#Elite and [TUC] failed to compete in at least two of the tournaments, making them ineligible to be ranked.

It seems obvious that [WM] or Apex will win the Second Clan League. It will be interesting to see which one ends up with it. The next clan league will be like the Promotion/Relegation Leagues with only about 5 leagues in each division. I will work on the order of moving up and down after each season and it will be decided before this one finishes.

Let me know if anybody has any comments or questions on it.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 03:34:06


NoobSchool (AHoL) • apex 
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Damn, third place so far. Rock it (AHoL)'s!
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 06:55:30


[WM] Anonymous 
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Very interesting. I just can't wait for the end because in this edition [WM] tried to make every member play. As you can see every player is in a different competion and there isn't one player which is in more than only one touruanemnt.

I just wanted to point out that it would be very interesting if [WM] wins with such various teams which were not filtered trying to get the best of [WM] in every tourney, but trying to make everyone (in the competion limits) paarticipate, have fun, and show what they can do. I can only say thank you for all the job you are keep going on and good job to all my guys! (damn, i started to talk as a football coach :/ )
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 08:42:07


Kenny • apex 
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I would just like to point out: [WG] was 4 members upon entering this Clan League, and we're at rank 5 (and I'll do my best to make sure we land rank 4 at least)

The clan 3 of us came from is unfortunately rank 17 now. >.> Might be saying a few things.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 12:20:06


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Very happy with the results so far. Well done clan! :)

I think WM will hold on to the lead but Apex could well pull a win off. I expected RSP and REGL to do better; happy to be ahead of them.

JSA, about how long is left overall (rough percentage, fraction whatever)?
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 17:52:08


ChrisCMU 
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Lolowut is correct. Neither Reza nor Unknown Ranger were in the clan when this started or we'd have more participation.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 19:41:53


Mudderducker 
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Well at least we are not last
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 19:45:32


[WG] Warlightvet 
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zen D's leader is useless lol
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/3/2013 19:57:04


Lord Fred100
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No Juggs? That breaks my heart </3
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/4/2013 18:31:52


The Fire_mad32 Juggernaut (Away from game)
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Lord Fred {TJC} - noone wanted to do this. But up for next one if u can get interest from members. :)
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 10:24:59


awesomely bitchtastic beta 2.o
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i'm not surprised at out low rank, arun. i think i can give 5 reason just from the top of my heads :P

1)Only 2 or 3 players actually wanted to do it. So we didn't have representatives in every tournament, costing us a few points.

2)Lime played in at least 4 tourneys, i think we got docked a lot of points for that

3)Frenzy just retired and I got suspended, when that happened we were like 7-1 in the 3v3s, now i think we are probably 8-3.

4)Jsa ran the tourney, and looking at how much we don't like each other, rsp probably got docked a few more points here ant there :P
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 10:36:42


no one
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why even this account is suspended for violating the rules.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 10:37:10


no one
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pulsey why your account is suspended.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 10:48:18


{RSP} Nike
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no longer i'm not,

even though i cant see it, apparently you're not alllowed to use another account during a suspension :P
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 12:06:15


[WG] Warlightvet 
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@pulsey:
"only 2 or 3 players wanted to do it"
obviously a weak clan then
"lime played in at least 4 tourneys"
because you couldn't find someone better, your problem
3:
bad luck there, don't get suspended next time
4:
bs, it's called counting up points
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 15:36:39

JSA 
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@Pulsey:
1. You had at least 4 players that I can think of who played. You, Frenzy, JustName, and Lime. Not to mention, you were the one who told your clan not to join it so that's your own problem.

2. Lime played in 2 1v1 tourneys which cost you 8 points. JustName played in 2 1v1 tournaments as well, which cost you another 8 points. Without penalties, you would be 65-41, which would move you up two places.

3. Frenzy retiring is just bad luck. Many clans had to deal with that last clan league and I'm sure a couple others have to on this one as well. That hasn't hurt your stats yet though. As for your suspension, it's your own fault you got suspended.

4. Count up the points yourself if you want. With the links to the tourneys, anyone can count them up if they want. It'd probably be better if soemoen did double check in case I count wrong and cost a clan a point or two. This is not a system that I can do whatever I want and pick the clan I like the most to win. This is a system with ceartain rules that apply and there's no way for one clan to get an unfair advantage.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 15:48:49


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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First off, why would JSA cheat with your score?

A) It is public and other people checking is quite simple.
B) RSP pose less then no threat to either of his two clans :P


If you can't get players, you shouldn't be able to get too high on the league. That's why I like the ** rule.

If you get suspended, its your own fault. Breaking the rules enough to get suspended means you either did something really bad or you were a repeat offender-you can't use that as an excuse.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 15:50:06


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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@JSA

Can you explain the points system to me a bit? I don't get what the X-Y system actually means. Perhaps if you post the points system here, RSP can check for themselves :P
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 15:52:31


szeweningen 
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1vs1 games worth 1 point, 2vs2 2 points, 3vs3 3 points. Games lost=points on the right, games won = points on the left. That is why Ahol was put behind Apex despite having more points overall, because they played more games overall and lost more than Apex.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 15:52:47

The XXX Juggernaut
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why aren't juggs participating? i'm just NUTS about JUGGS!
*copyright: ironheart
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 16:00:29

JSA 
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Close Sze...I changed it from last season. It is 4 points for each 3v3 win instead of 3. The updates aren't completely accurate at the moment because some clans have a lot of games to play yet while others are almost finished. The first number is the number of points they have earned so far and the second number is how much more they could have had if they had won all of their games up to that point.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 16:06:11


szeweningen 
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So... how about a new year's update?
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 17:26:02


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Thanks for that Sze and JSA-it makes more sense now (instead of just ranks).
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/5/2013 23:05:18


{RSP} Nike
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@warflow: the reason nobody wanted to play in the clan league was not because we were weak in numbers, we had 13 active guys than, but some of us thought it was not worth the time.stop making assumptions, will you? There's a reason why you are on my blacklist :P
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/6/2013 00:01:02


AWESOMEGUY 
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10% Boot: You are back to 11% Boot Rate Now..
As for Frenzy going inactive, that's just bad luck. Bigfly has gone inactive so our 2v2s have dropped considerably, but I'm not complaining. In fact I am unsurprised by the results so far, we are Doug about as good as I expected.

JSA: I see that [V.I.W] has both not played in and joined several evens. Evidently, that shows poor preparation on our part, however I am unsure how we have ended up with these deductions in points. If we are able to participate in next season, I would like to be able to communicate better.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/6/2013 00:24:14

JSA 
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Awesome Guy, What I did was I took the lineups the clans gave me and invited those people. If they did not join, I invited others to take their place that I had on my invite list that I added by searching for members. If no one joined after a while, I just started the tournament because it isn't fair to make everybody else wait. Next season, I will try having games open with all clan leaders and doing it that way.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 1/6/2013 08:00:51


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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Thanks ^^ I'll have a team prepared probably for next season.
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 3/10/2013 14:55:15


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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How long do you think this league will take to finish?

What are the standings at the moment?

When will you ask us to prepare our entries for next season?
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 3/10/2013 20:09:44


hedja 
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I will update scores for REGL and VIW, but not the lost points, just overall points counting deductions for too many players.

VIW : 1vs1 (12 + 13 + 8[1 left] + 9 - 8 for double tourny by awesomeguy)
2vs2 (no players + 10[2 left])
3vs3 (52[1 left])
overall : 34 + 10 + 52 = 96 points with a possible 9 more points if they win the rest.
REGL : 1vs1 (9 + 9 + 1[3 left] + 11)
2vs2 (14[3 left] + 28[1 left])
3vs3 (36[2 left])
overall : 30 + 42 + 36 = 108 points with a possible 19 more points.

First 2v2 tourny, in Team R why is there one rEGL player and 1 MC player? Both clans already had a team, it resulted in VIW not getting a team and losing out on points...

Going over all this shows that teams that do not have enough players or simply get deducted points, will lose out, even though individually they performed better. Had VIW entered a team for the 2vs2, and also a different 1v1 that wasn't awesomeguy, then they could've been beating REGL by a few points, meaning the last games left all to play for. I just hope it gets organized better this season, also I hope that you leave more time now JSA so teams can get ready, we have to wait several months anyway, who cares waiting an extra week to make sure all teams have right number of players?
Second Clan League - Tournament Links and Results so Far: 3/10/2013 20:11:19


hedja 
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Also it would be good if everyone could update the standings for their own clans, so we can compare with more ease
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