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1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 18:28:49


Ottoman Emperor 
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italic part shows how this thread started.

Since i couldnt reach #1 at 1v1 ladder i decided to use statistics to show that i am #1 with an unofficial way. When i was doing this i didn't count games against players whose ratings are less than 1500. And i counted expired games when player doesnt have 50 unexpired games. Here it is;

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OLD LIST
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With your help together we can make this list better and maybe one day we can save the world from stallers. Also you can find a way to show that you are best player in the world with using statistics.


EDIT:

new rules;

1- player should be active in 1v1 ladder and ranked between 1-100.

2- games older than 1 year wont be counted.

3- games against opponents whose rating are less than 1600 (this is current rating not rating when game was created) wont be counted.

4- player should have 50 games finished with these criterias.

5- list will have only 20 players (more than 20 is hard to update). first 20 players of first 100 players in ladder who meets with criterias will be in list.

6- if players have same amounts of wins, i will check their ladder ratings to rank them.

7- this list is not against current ladder system. this is for players who likes to play more games in ladder. it is very hard to be ranked between 1-5 if you have more than 50 games finished but you can be #1 at this list.

8- i want to create a board with minimum 7 members to bring new rules and to update list. members will be from;
*1 member from every clan chosen by clan leaders (if they want to be a member)
*some players (will be voted) who is not active in ladder and not a member of a clan.
after board is created i wont touch system.


	Rank	Player			Win	Lose
	____	__________________	___	____
NEW	1	Ottoman Emperor		38	12
-1	2	degrret			37	13
-1	3	MG ♦ ɌeLite ♦		36	14
NEW	4	13CHRIS37		35	15
♦	5	Krzychu			34	16
+12	6	Jackie Treehorn		34	16
-3	7	dwoogee			33	17
NEW	8	master of desaster	33	17
-6	9	Dom365			32	18
-1	10	Kantos			30	20
-3	11	Iceman			30	20
+3	12	bananbird		30	20
+3	13	JV			29	21
-7	14	Master Bjarke		29	21
NEW	15	Arlecchino		29	21
-6	16	Dreamworker		29	21
-3	17	Roob			28	22
NEW	18	Math Wolf		26	24
-6	19	BraaK			26	24
-1	20	CONQUISTADORS		24	26




GAMES TO WATCH

will be added soon

Edited 8/13/2014 21:05:08
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 19:15:51


Master Potato
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im 31:19 it seems (might have made mistakes while counting)

I have counted all last 50 games.

Edited 7/29/2014 19:16:16
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 19:22:56


Ottoman Emperor 
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Swimming potato. better you swim instead of counting. you are 33-17. now i will add you to list.
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 19:29:38


Ace Windu 
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I hate to think how old some of my last 50 games are.
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 19:50:36


Master Potato
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:D
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 19:50:36


Master Potato
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Edited 7/29/2014 19:57:21
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 22:12:07


Vulpes
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I would like to post pictures of the last 50 girls I kissed to show my game is improving.
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 22:24:50


Ottoman Emperor 
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1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 22:29:18


Min34 
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i counted expired games when player doesnt have 50 unexpired games


This isn`t how the ladder works though. Even if you have a better 50 games in total, that doesn`t mean you have better active games.

Wouldn`t a list of average rating of beaten players and average rating of players that beated you be more interesting when trying to prove you are better (this list obviously also only of those 50 games)?

Edited 7/29/2014 22:29:48
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 22:31:45


myhandisonfire 
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...that beated you...


gnuff, stop posting with other peoples accounts!
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 22:39:14


Min34 
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Shut up, I made that mistake before and will probably keep on doing it
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 22:46:57


Ottoman Emperor 
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i ll add you gnuff. 32-18



Edited 7/29/2014 23:00:39
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 23:47:19


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
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24:26

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1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/29/2014 23:54:42


master of desaster 
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Does this statistic say i'm awesome? Thank you for pointing it out ottoman! ^^ But i got my own way to prove that I'm the best already ;) rank 5 with 150 unexpired games! I bet most of the guys with the golden trophy couldn't do that.

Edited 7/30/2014 00:19:40
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 00:19:54


Master Potato
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This statistics say im lucky!! im #7!!
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 00:41:38


Ottoman Emperor 
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@Arun

When i was doing this i didn't count games against players whose ratings are less than 1500


@Master of Disaster

Yes. with current ranking system if you want to be ranked #1 you have to leave ladder and wait until your loses expire. System forces players not to play more games instead of forcing players to play more games.I play ladder because every game i meet a new player and play with better opponents. Ladder is just to find a random opponents for me.

Of course this list is not perfect. it uses some criteria from current system. it is just a very simple way to show something different when you change the number of mimimum games completed from 15 to 50. i will update this list time by time to make people play more games in ladder. i am sure this simple list is more competitive than current ladder ranking.
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 01:24:50


professor dead piggy 
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"Ladder is just to find a random opponents for me." Strongly agree. This is the main utility of the ladder.
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 02:46:19

Pulsey
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Ottoman did JSA hack your account?
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:12:10


Ottoman Emperor 
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Edited 7/30/2014 03:13:11
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:12:11


Ottoman Emperor 
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JSA 29-21
Pulsey 15-9
dead piggy under 1500.

Edited 7/30/2014 03:12:54
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:18:40

Good Kid 
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Not seeing what piggy being under 1500 matters. He was 39-11 in his last 50 against people currently over 1500 before his surrender streak.
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:26:56


Ottoman Emperor 
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good kid 10-12 :)

i will be very happy if players who talks about ladder too much join ladder and complete 50 games against +1500 players. dead piggy is one of the players who can pass 40-10. list should be dynamic. so we can see more good players in ladder. and passing 40-10 will be harder.

i ll add some rules later:
* 1 year expiration
* player should be ranked in ladder
* players who wants to join will be in the list.
* 20 players will be in list
* and maybe we change minimum opponents rating from 1500 to 1600

Edited 7/30/2014 04:31:29
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:40:48


professor dead piggy 
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I demand to be assesed as per the rules! My current rating does not matter.

Edited 7/30/2014 03:54:56
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:45:37


Ottoman Emperor 
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ok dead piggy yours is 4-46
join ladder and let warlight community to see some pro games.
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:45:49

JSA 
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Um, fatih, did you actually count?

I was beating Charlie Brown and I surrendered when I quit the ladder, so that game doesn't count.
Lost Dreamworker
Beat Z-dog
Beat bahuma
Lost Timi
Lost Surehand
Beat Ze
Lost Anakin
Lost Wazz
Beat Pedro
Beat Kryzchu
Beat Odin
Beat Jorgst
Lost Teddy
Beat Pulsey
Lost queralant
Beat rento
Beat lawm
Beat mario
Beat Bzox
Beat Andersault
Beat Robke
Lost Gambler
Beat Ulti
Beat Vadas
Lost Tenshi
Beat Mirror
Beat Gyver
Beat dodo
Lost Chewie
Beat mod
Beat Falker
Beat Komandant
Lost Verzheer
Beat retro
Beat CONQ
Lost Omega
Lost GMontag
Beat lawm
Lost Chris
Beat NoobSchool
Lost schmidt
Beat adny
Beat Dharma
Beat Clifford
Lost HHH
Beat Anakin
Beat banana
Beat Military
Beat timon
Beat Fighter

My wins vs UglyCassanova, Steve, pisherned, Kris, Hughsey, and my loss vs Gurtbal don't count since they were rated under 1500 when I played them.

34-16 in my last 50 games vs 1500+ rated players (when I played them).

Also, only counting games vs 1500+ is silly. It's easiest to be like 1600 rating and get players rated around 1500-1700 constantly. It's a lot easier to go 45-5 vs them than go 40-10 vs 1900+ rated players.

Better yet, let's do a series of round robins between 18 of the best Strategic 1v1 players. 51 total games. Winner is the one with the best record in the combined tournaments. This seems much more accurate than doing it the way you suggest. Your system is as easy to game as the actual 1v1 ladder is right now.

Edited 7/30/2014 03:49:40
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:50:29


professor dead piggy 
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http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=6355355 the game with charlie brown. Itd be nice to have seen another turn. I would still definitely call it for jsa. Discounting it seems quite fair.

"Also, only counting games vs 1500+ is silly. It's easiest to be like 1600 rating and get players rated around 1500-1700 constantly. It's a lot easier to go 45-5 vs them than go 40-10 vs 1900+ rated players." Its very hard to go 45-5 against 1600 players and stay rated 1600 =D

"Your system is as easy to game as the actual 1v1 ladder is right now. " even if that were true, judging in retrospect means that noone has gamed the system, they didnt even know it existed when they played the games they are being judged on.

Edited 7/30/2014 03:54:00
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:51:52

Good Kid 
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I'm not sure how he counted most of the ratings. Like, I can't be 15-12.

I have 28 finished games. The first 6 vs. people under 1500.

That leaves 22 games.

I'm 9-13 in those 22 vs. average rating of 1940.
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:54:34

JSA 
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Piggy, if you did a ladder run right now, I'd imagine you'd go at least 45-5 in your next 50 games, becasue your rating is low and will stay low for a while.

My point is his system can be gained easily if a player had the desire to. A round robin series cannot be gamed other than stalling in losses and hoping for opponent to get booted which will earn you at max, only 2-3 more wins I'd assume.

Edited 7/30/2014 03:57:05
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 03:56:38


professor dead piggy 
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Yeah but i am the only one with the foresight to put myself in such a strong position. I am also not going to do that because its soooo lame. If gnuff were to try and game this new system by doing that it would take him over 6 months. So this system is valid for atleast 6 months.

Edited 7/30/2014 03:59:16
1v1 Ladder (Last 50 games): 7/30/2014 04:02:23

JSA 
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Lol. I doubt anyone would do it. I just think it is a worse way of rating players than the current 1v1 system. Everyone has different opponents strength. Some averaged playing 1900+ opponents, others averaged 1700 opponents. Not a good comparison to compare their records imo.

A better challenge: get a 2200+ rating without stalling with 50+ unexpired games. I think it is possible but would be a tough challenge and require a lot of focus from a top strategic 1v1 player to accomplish it.

Edited 7/30/2014 04:03:31
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