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WM Dominance: 12/21/2012 19:18:05


J Russell Mikkelsen 
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I noticed that 4 of the top 7 1v1 ladder players are in the WM clan, including the top spot. Yesterday, for a brief moment, they held spots 1 AND 2. Mighty impressive. I don't think we've ever seen so many members of the same clan in the top 10 before, certainly not the top 7 as these four are.

There was a time when I considered any match up against a player with a clan tag an automatic win. Now, when I see a WM tag, I can almost consider it an automatic loss. Clans like WM and Apex are leading the way for clans in general and I like the direction they're headed. Clans were once the butt of every joke made in the forums and now they're holding the highest rankings in Warlight. Congrats and keep it up.


If anyone wants to share their stories of their prejudices against clans blowing up in their face, this would be a good thread for that. Or, if you want to parody how Gui would explain why Szewen and other WM players are actually horrible at this game and their rankings are undeserved, that's welcome too.

WM Dominance: 12/21/2012 19:58:45


SevenDeadlySins*Lust*
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I noticed that today one of the top 1 ladder positions are held by the WM clan. That is total WM clan dominance. WM holds 100% of the top 1 ladder positions over 100% of the time on a timescale of 3 days.

There was a time when I considered Mikelsen posts an automatic win. Now, when I see a Mikelsen post, I can almost consider it an automatic laugh.
WM Dominance: 12/21/2012 20:19:59

DagenDaDragon (ReTIRED OF WARLIGHT) 
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^
But laughs aside, I noticed that as well, and it makes me happy. I prefer seeing various top clans duke it out for top positions rather then a bunch of random good players. I like how it looks and I like that it is making clans a bigger part of the game.
WM Dominance: 12/21/2012 20:28:12


J Russell Mikkelsen 
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Spot on, SevenDeadlySins! You set the bar for Gui parodying. That is word-for-word, letter-for-letter, exactly what Gui would say if he were to post in this thread. Well done.
WM Dominance: 12/21/2012 21:34:30

cagalhao
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"But laughs aside, I noticed that as well, and it makes me happy. I prefer seeing various top clans duke it out for top positions rather then a bunch of random good players."

rnt theu also random players?

im sry, but everything i have to tell u involves language that might get me suspended

silence
WM Dominance: 12/21/2012 23:37:20

DagenDaDragon (ReTIRED OF WARLIGHT) 
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I'll try to peace together what your first line said.

If you meant "Aren't thou also a random player?":
Yes, I'm also not a top tier player, and I've not found a clan that fits me or has accepted me... yet.

If you meant "aren't they also random players?:
Yes, but when I find a new online game and take a look at leaderboards and Forums, I generally don't remember peoples names, I remember the clan tags that were dominating, if there were clans.
It makes a game look more competitive in my mind, when I see clan tags. This is coming from a background mostly in Online FPS's, but I think it can apply to most genres.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 00:29:17

Hennns
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It`s pretty simple if you ask me, any player is a random player. (makes sense right) However when (s)he joins a clan, for instance [WM] (s)he becomes a [WM] player. So therefore is clan players not random players, while other players are.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 00:42:51


SevenDeadlySins*Gluttony*
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[WM] is chock full of great team game players not just 1v1 specialists like Surehand, Artham, Piggy and Szeweningen. And there are a few more [WM] players who would definitely be in the top 10 if they were to join the ladder, Trollussa for sure.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 01:29:57


Kenny • apex 
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apex also had quite a dominant stance on ladder for quite awhile. Dunga, Frank, and Luxis all have top 10 ranks under their belt. Also, if grona and brisk had a membership, surely they would also jump into the top 10. They both boast a clan of elite players. Tags in my view are an accolade. It's a way of saying: I'm at this level, these are the people I hang with.

I joined {rp} because I am an {rp} member. I dabble in creative writing and like odd, original games that are outside the scope of the normal competitive Warlight.

I joined [WG] because I am at that certain skill level of competitive play. I'm not quite elite (apex/[WM]) but I'm hanging on their coattails and can give them a hard time. (Unless you're Timinator. Although I can give Timinator a close game sometimes).

(Translation in rank: 20-30). (In 2v2, you'll see Andersault and I take top 7 when we pull wins in the games we're currently in. We could take top 5, but it's doubtful we'll be able to stick in there with all the good teams joining. See: Gui and Dead Piggy, a team that will take all the women in your village and pillage them in both senses of the word.)

I like clans. It gives me a way to find a partner in team games really easy. I know that everyone in [WG] can hang with me and won't do bad. I also like playing with apex and [WM] whenever I can since I learn a lot. I get that privilege because I've played with them a lot in clan events and they like playing with me from time to time because of that. (Also I host a ton of live tourneys. Boredom of course.)

However, there are a lot of clans out there that.. don't host a certain level of skill or even improve. I get it, you want to be in a group of players around your skill level. However, how do you jump out of that level once you've determined yourself there? I guess I have a different mentality. I want to improve. I want to kick some ass. I don't want to apologize for it either. I do see though, that players in {warlighter} and several other clans don't improve besides a select few of their members. (See: warflowvet{warlighter}) Instead of having a group of players who improve their competitive play, it becomes a tag for a player that immediately makes me think: Okay well, don't really have to stress this game.

Quite honestly, I think you have a better shot at improving by not being in {warlighter} than you do being in it. You'll spend a lot of your time fighting in {warlighter} than you would against players of actual merit and standing.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 01:40:32


SevenDeadlySins*Wrath*
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My face is livid for angry, even for having only read his disgusting name!!!
What has Trollussa done to be considered any good???
He has just badly copied Gui's attitude toward the community, trolling some dumb people and nothing more!!!
Gluttony, have you got a hypo???
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 01:50:39


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Wrath, that was a selfish and ignorant post. What a person does in the forums has very little correlation with how they play. Billy Walsh may be a trolling douchebag, but it would be stupid to say that he is a bad player. Trollusa is similar. It doesn't matter that he trolls the forums, he has definite 1v1 skill. I found Gluttony's post to be very insightful and true.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 01:54:21


Master ARC 
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On a separate note, I have noticed that WM has made a huge comeback, certainly the biggest clan comeback in WarLight history. I remember on the forums in July and August, I think it was Arun who posted a list of clans, including WM. A credible player (can't remember his name) told Arun that WM was effectively a dead clan, and questioned why it was on the list. Arun promptly agreed. Now, here we are 4 months later and not only has Wm resurfaced, but it has become arguably the most skilled overall clan on WarLight, with better players now than ever.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 02:00:31


SevenDeadlySins*Wrath*
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My face is like thunder for having read such a foolish statement!!!
Is this what you consider a definite 1v1 skill ???
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3590743
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 02:01:04


Kenny • apex 
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ARC, I swear. I am laughing at your post right now. You're arguing with 1 person who is trolling.

Also, really. You're serious?

What credible player? And are you seriously taking Arun's side, as if he could produce a logical post.


I remember what happened. [WM] had people joining who weren't part of the clan. All Red did was say: Hey, we have standards. What are all these people doing with this tag? I didn't approve them.

So creating standards and kicking out the majority of players (WHO WEREN'T PART OF THE CLAN) is DEAD?

The credible person who told you that [WM] was dead, was a player kicked out, BECAUSE HE WASN'T ACTUALLY PART OF IT. How can he produce an opinion of a clan that he was never part of? They never went below surface, so your post makes NO logical sense.

The dissenting opinion was: You can't have standards and have an active clan.

The dissenting opinion was not only illogical, but proven completely wrong.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 03:07:06


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Okay, thx lolowut. You've reminded me to stay off the ladder forum. Just calm down in the future.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 03:22:37


Sze Likes His CLOT
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I want to share their stories of their prejudices against clans blowing up in their face. Szewen is actually horrible at this game. And other WM players' rankings are undeserved.

Szewen is SevenDeadlySins. It's so obvious: Szewen is Polish-ElmerFudd pronunciation for Seven.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 04:02:52


SevenDeadlySins*Gluttony*
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Lust, you played very well in your game against Trollussa, even after your bad picks. Did you not know it is impossible to get both your 1st and 6th picks?
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 04:16:18


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Yeah, there were a lot of people saying that [WM] was dead... that [WM]'s name was blackened and many other prediction about its end.

I can only be extreamly proud of every single member for making [WM] what is nowdays.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 06:31:48


NecessaryEagle 
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REGL is changing as well. Expect us.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 08:59:41


{RSP} Nike
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I realize people who hang around jsa, like lolowut, quite like to boast and get all serious when it comes to clan-talk. :P
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 11:12:34

Gui's alt No.673
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HO HO HO
WM are only good because they are elves secretly.
HO HO HO
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 13:01:55

JSA 
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Pulsey, I see you are still sour that [WG] and [WM] both rejected you. Maybe stop complaining about them and get better.
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 13:54:09

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Thinks JSA the clan whore should not put down other active members or clans. Wonders what requirements there are for JSA's all mighty clans, if any.

Compares JSA and pulsey. Can't decide who is the better player.

Nollaig Shona
-Merry Christmas
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 14:23:57


{RSP} Nike
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not sour at all. :) I recall telling you that you're quite a showoff WAY BEFORE i even applied for WG. :)

Looking at I just defeated Lolowut n on a 1v1 srategic a few daysago ;) I believe its more like I didn't have "synergy in teamgames" and i'm too outspoken in the forums." :)

As for WM, i knew before i applied the chances of joining are slim. I managed to win both games, but apparently I'm not much of a team player :/ no surprisees there :/
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 14:25:54


{RSP} Nike
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and you'v yet to defeat me yet, jsa. I believe i''m 3-0 over you. 1 strategic win and 2 europe 1v1 wins.
in fact...
i'v defeated everyone apart from reza in the wg clan before, qaqa, swiffe, jsa, lolowut, chris. are there anyone else?
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 14:29:16


{RSP} Nike
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so i think the reason I failed is not because "i need to get better", uut more like "you guys don't like me", "I'm too outspoken on the forums" and "I lack synergy in teamgames when i play with people i'v never played before." ;)
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 14:29:41

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2 clans is being a clan whore? I disagree. Many people are in two clans, some in more.

For [WG], we have the requirements that a player must be a solid player and a guy who we can trust. We did not see that in Pulsey. He was decent at 1v1 because of his counter style but when we tested him on team games, he was well below the standards we were looking for.

For apex, the requirement is for a player to be very good and a guy who we can trust to not get booted very often.

I have to laugh at the second line. You must be quite a bad player if you can't see the difference on 1v1 even. On team games, Pulsey is not even decent. It wasn't just [WG] that rejected him. [WM] did too, showing that they don't think he is very good either.

I wish I knew who you are. You trolled on the [20] thread too. I just find it amusing how you are too scared to say it with your older account. Like I said on the [20] thread, if you post with your older account, maybe I wouldn't view your statements as a joke.

-Merry Christmas to you too!
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 14:39:25


{RSP} Nike
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merry christmas to you too, js, and dr.hyde! I really hope i get something decent for christmas this year. But seriously, are you ALWAYS online on the forum o.O

Actually, you have to be completely excellent in team games and 1v1 to join WM. Gnuoffone told me i was decent, but not excellent. (Maybe he's lying!)

And don't you find it a bit odd to test someone's team skills, by making him play wth someone he's never even played with before?
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 14:42:58


SevenDeadlySins*Lust*
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@JSA how do you fullfill the requirement for apex then? not getting booted even more?
@Pulsey you are craving for recogniction with a blatancy nobody can like. My sisters envy and vanity have you in their firm grip. relax, empty your cup and learn from those who are better and eventually your desire for recognition will be fullfilled
WM Dominance: 12/22/2012 14:46:54

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Pulsey, As I recall, the strategic 1v1 game was played in July when i was a much weaker player. I believe the Europe games were played then too, and they were crap settings, as I told you. I beat you in some small map you played against me that I'd never played before.

You don't even know the players in [WG]. They are Gnullbegg, Lolowut, me, Unknown Ranger, Reza, and ChirsCMU. So you've beaten three, and lost to all three as well I believe.

It's not that you lack synergy. You just don't understand how to play team games. I'm not going to lie, I don't like you anymore. But when you asked about trying out for [WG], I didn't dislike you. It was after you complained about being rejected that made me dislike you. We've rejected some other guys as well, and they don't complain constantly about it like you do. They understand that the only thing to do if you get rejected is to just get better.

You are at the level [WG] would accept for 1v1 but barely. And your teamplay is dismal. Not to mention you constantly try to put members of our clan down on the forums quite constantly. And you also complain every time you get something you don't want. I don't know how old you are, but I would guess 13 from the way you act.

I think with team games, if you have a nice and decent teammate, you should be able to do well with him. If I get a decent teammate, my team almost always does well. Not for you though, because you aren't good at team games.

As for [WM] standards, I'm not going to argue with them. Everyone has different ideas of good and excellent and decent. In my standards, guys like Frank, Gnuffone, etc. are good players, while solid players is what I'd rate a lot of the guys in [WG]. Pulsey, I'd rate you as decent which is below solid. Excellent is only the top 20 or so guys in the game in my opinion. Guys like Gui, Sze, Myhand, etc. In my opinion, there are 2-3 guys in [WM] who I would rate as solid or perhaps even decent on 1v1, but I have yet to meet a bad team player in [WM]. If a player is in [WM], I know they will be a good teammate and typically they are good 1v1 players as well.

As for the point of this thread, Good job [WM]! You guys deserve it! Maybe we should have some kind of inter-clan competition just between apex and [WM] and see how it works out. Just for fun though.
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