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Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 09:58:49

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http://warlight.net/Profile?p=689056668

I wanted to invite Beelzebub to a live tournament and saw his dedication to Mars, the God of War.

Beelzebub, you won a 50-50 guess to bust Slovakia turn 2. You are a master of strategy. You gained about 2-3 turns to grow.

Inactivity by Team A in Russia and Benelux/France turn 5 bought you the most time. You had nothing to do with that. They were gifts. That is when the game was decided.

3v3s involve three people per team. You had three accounts playing three others. Maybe it was a 1v1 in your mind. But one player usually can't win a 3v3 alone from start to finish. I lose 20% of my 3v3s. I'm 0-2 with you as a teammate. Do you think I have never lost before?

Make a game. Invite me. If we play 100 team games against each other, I assure you your record will be bad. Can your precious stats handle this challenge?
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 10:34:40


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Beezlebub is also a really funny manga. just saying :)
im sad, i thought this thread would be about discussing mangas :(
btw, i'll accept 100 games against you any time =3
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 10:52:15


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Mmmm I think of being an objective person, so I'm sure that even if I was involved in that very game, I can give a not biased judice on it.

I don't do it for defending me as a player, beacuse I don't need to proove anything to anyone, and the way I outplayed you in Russia is pretty evident about that, considering also that I wasn't paying any particular attention to the game, since I tought we were just playing it for having some fun.

Instead I will do it because -since you know me and you know that I've no reasons to just make fun of you in public- you can trust me, while you might embrass yourselves in answering in a bad way against Gui, just because you think he is doing it for break your balls.
(Actually I think he is doing it for that reason, but this does not mean that he is not right.)

Sorry for the long introduction but I think that it must be done in order to let you know that my intentions are just positive.

About the game the analysis is simple:
I was winning in Russia, Fridge was losing in Holland, Mars wasn't able to help me in the north at all, since you managed to break him in the second turn and that was the thing who made you win the game.

Be careful the fact that you win the game for a coin flip doesn't mean at all that you didn't deserve that.
I don't think that you played very well actually, but if you managed in keeping an advantage (even if it was pretty big) against such competitive players is absolutely remarkable.

But if you want to be objective, you really can't deny that you win the game for that stroke of luck.
Once again this very fact didn't remove the merits from your victory, but here it is the problem:
In your bio you did write that thing.

So unfortunately you turned your good victory in a shameful one.

Why?
Beacuse making such a victory public is just pathetic.
It means that you can't analyze correctly a game, and that you think that having beated for a stroke of luck Mars is a kind of evidence of your superiority.

You can easily understand why this attitude is lame:
1) You were not superior to Mars in that very game, and you are not superior to Mars as a general player.
2) If you need such a (not-elegant at all) bragging, it means that you really don't have anything better to be proud of in this game.

Actually this (more than being lame) is just sad.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 10:58:53


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Oh, just keep it mind not to take my post as personal.

I tried to be as objective as I could, since I'm not perfect at all, I could easily have a wrong perspective on this fact.

But once again don't think I wrote this just to have laughs against you, but beacuse -as you know- I always put sincerity above everything else, and I do believe that knowing the truth (even if it is a harsh one) it is always better than living in a lie.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:01:31

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In case he deletes the game in question: http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3440341

I enjoy Beelzebub. I was happy to see his most holy dedication to Mars, God of War. I persuaded people to have Beelzebub be invited to 20. Overall, I think he is a better all around player than some invited ahead of him. But he is also funny.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:07:56


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why dont you stop going on a rant about beelzabub in the public forum and leave him alone. If you don't agree with how he plays and his stats, just blacklist him. =.=
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:13:00


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I love the fact that the answer to your question is in the very first line of this thread....
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:14:15

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A rant implies anger. I like what Beelzebub wrote. It is funny.

If you don't like my thread, why do you rant about it? Just blacklist me.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:20:54


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i'm defending him against your sarcastic comments and posts. The way he plays this game and his "precious stats" aren't hurting anyone. I dont see why you should keep going on and on about it.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:22:25


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and was i 'ranting' about your post? sorry, i thought a rant implies anger. I dont see any sign of anger in my first comment. :O
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:27:13

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You shouldn't go on and on about my thread though. I don't see the reason for that. My thread isn't hurting anyone.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:38:23


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Nike - you seem not to get why Gui started this thread. It's not because our team lost. We lose many games, some because of luck, some because we are simply outplayed. It doesn't matter which case was the game with beelz - the whole thread started because Gui felt what Beelzebub said about mars (my and Trilussa's teammate) was offensive. In case he erases it from profile:



#Look at Mars!! The great God of War!
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3440341

pff he is only the usual loser....



- and I agree you shouldn't call people "usual losers" because of one game.. that's all.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 11:49:09


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Your thread IS hurting someone, Gui. Do you think Beelzebub feels happy about you making sarcastic comments about him on the forum? I dont think so! :)

@Fridge: sorry, i didn't see that on beelzebub's profile, i guess it wasnt right for him to call someone a "usual loser" as well. OK, but thats not a reason for Gui to start talking about Beelzebub like that, after all, two wrongs doesnt make one right!
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 14:01:07


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I can see no comment by bez whatsover, on which all this is suppossedly based on.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 14:18:19


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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trilussa like a female gui
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 20:52:55


Belzebù - サタン 
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another trhead dedicated to me? i must be very important here...
@gui
Sincerely, mR gui , before the game that you have posted, you have invited me in this game..http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3426339
40% wins and only 150 games like pre -requisite, I have declined it ,cause : no time but ,aniway , not interested to play with a bad teamates....

but , how all can read in chat, you have wrote: he is afraid of us, he SAW MARS THE GOD OF WAR, and knews his virute and armis wouldnt be enought!
...This is a clearly provocation! , and I have answer at your provocation with another provocation : Look at Mars the God of War.......in my bio.
In my opinion provocation per provocation its a draw....but not for you...cause belzeebub must be always "the bad" for the "public opinion" (that is the sense of your new thread!)
...this seems like: Im Gui the most asshole of this game , i can provocate and insult everyone and everything but if beelzebub insult me , I cry like a stupid girl!..this is not a problem, cause I can open a new thread on forum and attack him with my new friends fridge and trilussa , All together to defend my innocence and virginity......clearly FUCKED!

about the analyze of the game: you MUST remember that also choice the starting positions its part of the game
, in my opinion its 75% of the game,I preferred to have portugal and spain(cause are isolated) instead of Slovakia and Hungary (hard to defend its cause are in middle)....
my choice turned out better than yours!
-Defending slovakia was possible, but your play is always TOO predictable, you have defended nitra instead of trenciasky cause in trenciavsky there was already 3 armies and in nitra only 1....i was sure of this at 100% , and not at 50%.....like the attack at trenciasky at turn 5, predictable? yes sure at 100%, and very strange moves to retake slovakia instead of take bulgaria .... moves pretty similar at these :http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=3309811 , you dont remember? you have already fail with this tactic...same for trilussa at turn 9 , he have add more armies in tver instead of smolensk, cause in smolensk there was already 4 armies....but defend western c russia with 12armies was possible at 100%.....

If you call this luck , you are much more noob than I think....

@fridge
if you realy think that gui have open this trhead cause my bio was offensive to him, he shouldnt be offensive against me before....who want to receive the respect must be the first to do so!

@trilussa
...guarda un po da chi viene la morale...certo, adesso che sei passato all 'altra sponda, accusare e rompere i coglioni al prossimo è piu semplice di difendersi...il rispetto non è dovuto! chi lo pretende lo deve dare a sua volta, non si puo provocare e prendere per il culo e dopo fare il piantino perchè si viene presi per il culo....ma poi non capisco cosa c 'entri te...sei diventato il nuovo avvocato di gui?......"female gui" ti si addice benissimo! penso di essermi comportato sempre in maniera corretta, sia quando vincevo che quando perdevo.....quindi il tuo lungo discorso è solamente una gran stronzata...una persona opportunista come te dovrebbe almeno evitare di fare le morali...mi fai un piacere se mi blacklisti, e se non mi inviti piu in qualsiasi partita o torneo, non ho piacere nel condividere nemmeno un secondo di questo stupido gioco con te....


-I blacklist trilussa and fridge so for me this problem is solved!
Gui is already blacklisted from long time ,but like a bad girlfriend who does not understand that the relationship is over.....she continue to invite me in games and tournaments, she devotes at me torunament and threads , she continue to try to join my games with fake accounts,..STOP!! This is STALKING!
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 21:36:33


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Well I loved how the fact that I said 4 times that my post was not for making fun, but just to be sincere and to try to help you to solve your problems was totally not considered.
Anyway since I forgot how you react to opinions (Blacklisting and insulting), I just have to say to myself that I was stupid to think that you can be mature once in your life.

By the way since my original intent was not to insult you, (Ohh and I could write a book to tell everybody who are you and who I was, and what you did and what you are still doing in this game, but I never did, and I am not interested in doing it because taking revenges is not my style at all) I won't even answer to what you said because you don't deserve it and because I love to have discussions with people only if they behave as civil folks.

But one thing I have to do, I will translate what you wrote in english:

... look from who the moral speeches came... well, now that you are in the other side, accusing and breaking the balls to someone is easier than defending... respect is not granted! who pretends it must give it to others too, it isn't right to provoke and make jokes out of people and then crying beacuse people make jokes out of you... but then I don't understand why you answered this thread... did you become the new gui's lawyer? .... "female gui" it's a good name for you! I think of having behaved well, both when I have won and when I have lost... so your long speech is just an enormous bullshit... an opportunistic person like you should at least try not to write this kind of moral stuff.. make me a favour: blacklist me, and don't invite me to any game or tourney, I don't like to share a second more of this stupid game with you.

Really after this speech I'm really tempted to answer you as I could, but I won't.

Just a thing I must say because it is too funny:
You claimed to be stronger than me because you knew that I would have deloyed an army less in that spot.
(When there is a 50% shot like that, I usually flip a coin... So you are much more smart than that coin for sure!!!)

Anyway it is nice that such a superior player with my same ladder partner wasn't even able to finish 10 games for how bad he was doing, and I (the inferior guy) reached the highest rank ever.
This answer is not referred to the speech that I've translated but to what you wrote in english, so I guess that I didn't break my promise.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 21:51:45

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I love it. Beelz, you should honor us more with your wisdom and virtue.

Since the game you posted we played again and there were similar situations in which I had to defend a bonus. I switched my approach from the last time, to make it more similar to the time you are referring to. I guess your memory is more selective. No sense in thinking you assume I change. Next time I will assume you make the obvious moves and that you expect nothing better from me. Or will I?

It's always fun to play with you. Even now, and even if you tend to play me lately only if you have an advantage of some sort and decline games in which you don't have any advantage. Cherry picking is fine. Stats matter, right?

Your medieval way of thinking must be very lonely. Jokes aren't processed as such and everything is black and white. I think differently and only blacklist bad players. Win or lose, playing you when you cherry pick or in all games, it's always fun in some way. That game we are referring to was for fun. The provocation you are referring to was for fun. This thread is for fun. Wasn't your profile dedication to the God of War also for fun? Don't you see, Beezlebaby, our love is still strong. lol
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 22:11:44


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well gui lets just think this over...











your not loved...











so shut up
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 22:13:24


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Hell bender you`re also not loved and Beelzebub isn`t the most popular guy either.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 22:17:36


{rp} Julius Caesar 
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nobody has outwardly said they hate me they have to gui so...
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 22:24:57


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Lightning McQueen is drinking. He suggests for those of legal age, and not those younger than legal age, to have a beer as well and not continue this ridiculous thread.


For those under i hear there are better more important things to worry with.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 22:44:43

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I think reading Beezlebaby's words is to be drunk vicariously.
Beelzebub: 11/24/2012 23:24:11


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Some people here seem to like Beelzebub, others seem to dislike him. Personally I don't think making a thread to discuss about it is really going to get us anywhere. While not having played games with him so much I do have to say that tactically his calls are mostly sound. Quick to anger and such ?? Maybe...but who is not ? Let's just stop trying to pinpoint everyone on their behaviour and let things rest. It's an argument neither side will settle anyway so just agree to disagree.
Beelzebub: 11/25/2012 01:23:30


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Can someone seriously tell me what this thread is ABOUT.
Beelzebub: 11/25/2012 02:20:19


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Name of post: Beelzebub.
Topic of Post: Beelzebub's profile.
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