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New map: Scythia - help wanted: 6/5/2014 07:27:52


Urfang
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I started to make a new map about the ancient Scythia.



The difficulty is that dont exist contemporary maps about this region. We know from greek historicians that wich tribes lived there: scythians, sarmatians, iazyges, alans, getas, sakas, sogds, dahas, massagetas, tissagetas, but hard to draw correct lines between their territories. Maybe some modern historical map exist based on antique sources. Know somebody something like this?

I made the region with rivers and lakes, just need some research before I start to draw bonuses. Im searching maps about the period between first century BC and first century AD.
http://warlight.net/SinglePlayer?PreviewMap=28577



Can someone help these guys to fight their final struggle to rule Scythia?
New map: Scythia - help wanted: 6/5/2014 10:38:50


Mudderducker 
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Ancient maps are hard, they require a lot of research. What I do is normally, search places in the area of Scythia, in the modern world. Then you just look at their history, they are often newer but their are some that date back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythia

Wiki isn't the best reliable source, but gives a mass amount of detail on history. Its better than anything else. Just search lots of options on google images, something might come up.

E.g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chersonesus_(Crimea)

I don't know if that's the right time period though. Other advice look at specific regions rather than just Scythia.


You may want to use these for large regions:
--The Pontic-Caspian steppe: Ukraine, southern Russia and western Kazakhstan (inhabited by Scythians from at least the 8th century BCE)[citation needed]
--The Kazakh steppe: northern Kazakhstan and the adjacent portions of Russia
--Sarmatia, corresponding to Ukraine and the eastern Balkans[3]
--Saka tigrakhauda, corresponding to parts of Central Asia, including Kyrgyzstan, southeastern Kazakhstan and Kashgar
--Sakastan, corresponding to southern Afghanistan and eastern Iran, extending to the Sistan Basin
--Parama Kamboja: corresponding to northern Afghanistan and parts of Tajikistan and Uzbekistan
--Scythia Minor: corresponding to the lower Danube river area west of the Black Sea, with a part in Romania and a part in Bulgaria
--The northern Caucasus area

Edited 6/5/2014 10:43:46
New map: Scythia - help wanted: 6/5/2014 11:33:25


Urfang
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I have some nice partial maps, like this about northern Caucasus based on literary sources. Its good to localize the well-known countries like caucasian Albania, caucasian Iberia, and Colchis, also show the names of many small tribes which are good to naming territories. But this is just the northern Caucasus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatia#mediaviewer/File:Map_of_Colchis,_Iberia,_Albania,_and_the_neighbouring_countries_ca_1770.jpg

Another historical map made from ptolemaic sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythia#mediaviewer/File:Scythia_serica.jpg

There are also other well-known parts. The western edge with Scythia minor, Scythia magna, Chersonesus, and geta lands is roughly okay. Central Asia with Sogdiana, Morgiana, Chorasmia, Baktria, and Sakastan is solveable too with relatively correct borders.

The real hardcore is the steppe, the nomadic highway. My favorite source of history maps wich is very accurate and precise can show only approximate regions here without borders.
http://www.worldhistorymaps.info/images/East-Hem_100bc.jpg

And actually maybe no sense to talk about borders in the steppe where nomadic tribes migrating and raiding in this time. But perhaps somebody have a great source wich worth to see before I finish the partitioning. Im already made a research just maybe somebody can show a good source what I did not find yet.

Edited 6/5/2014 12:30:04
New map: Scythia - help wanted: 6/11/2014 01:21:21


i-like-swords
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You can look at the Europa Barabarorum map (not mine, the official one) since the makers put a lot of effort into researching their stuff. http://www.europabarbarorum.com/features_map.html
New map: Scythia - help wanted: 6/11/2014 08:09:50


Urfang
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This link not work for me :( But your map is not bad just the names are a little bit weird, is that exactly the same as on the link?
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