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Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 16:34:25

Grady
Level 14
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I found there weren't any single player rankings, so I came up with a point system.
Level 1:
Over 11- 40 points
11- 45 points
10- 50 points
9- 60 points
8- 80 points
7- 120 points
6- 200 points

Level 2:
Over 22- 120 points
21-22- 135 points
19-20- 150 points
17-18- 180 points
16- 240 points
15- 360 points
14- 600 points

Level 3:
Over 31- 240 points
29-31- 270 points
26-28- 300 points
23-25- 360 points
21-22- 480 points
20- 720 points
19- 1,200 points

Europe Challenge:
Over 30- 300 points
28-30- 340 points
25-27- 375 points
22-24- 450 points
20-21- 600 points
19- 900 points
18- 1,500 points

Crazy Challenge:
Over 40- 500 points
36-40- 560 points
32-35- 625 points
28-31- 750 points
25-27- 1,000 points
23-24- 1,500 points
22- 2,500 points

Insane Challenge:
Over 50- 800 points
45-50- 900 points
39-44- 1,000 points
35-38- 1,200 points
31-34- 1,600 points
29-30- 2,400 points
28- 4,000 points

Rating:
Under 300- Just Started
300-600- Noob
601-1,200 Getting There
1,201-1,800 Amateur
1,801-2,500 Average
2,501-3,500 Rookie
3,501-5,000 Veteran
5,001-7,500 Champion
7,501-9,999 Master
10,000 Ultimate Warlight Player
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 16:36:42

Grady
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My Rating: 1,680 Amateur
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 17:23:35


Richard Sharpe 
Level 59
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Why would a rating system be based solely on single-player games against the AI? That seems utterly ridiculous and boring.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 17:31:42

Grady
Level 14
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Because some people are good against some strategies and not good against others. AI's don't have strategies. Also there's already a multiplayer rankings. It's called ladders. The only problem is Non-Members can't play on them.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 17:36:42


Richard Sharpe 
Level 59
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I am well aware of that fact. It changes nothing. AI's are incredibly poor measuring sticks as their tendencies can be studied and thus make them easily beaten by a knowing opponent. There is very little skill to beating an AI opponent.

Add in the fact that they are high-risk games and it is even less about skill/ability at WL.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 17:37:44


Richard Sharpe 
Level 59
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And shouldn't rookie rate lower than average?
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 17:50:22

Fizzer 
Level 58

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Richard: Your comments are completely out of line. Some people just like playing single player. If you find it boring, just pass on the thread. There's no reason for you to jump in and put someone down.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 18:12:10


Ribena 
Level 56
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I like your scoring system grady as I get top marks :-)

As limited as the AI's are, I still learnt valuable lessons about expansion, the use of cards and the importance of prioritising / delaying orders.

Getting the gold star for insane challenge when learning the game was one of the most difficult/frustrating/rewarding things I have done on a computer game!
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 18:13:36

Darkruler2005
Level 8
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I won level 2 in 13 turns.

What do.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 18:48:41


Richard Sharpe 
Level 59
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Sorry Fizzer, I'll make sure not to provide my opinion in the future if I fear it will be contrary to the will of the people...
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 19:01:02

Darth Mylor {Warlighter}
Level 13
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Fizzer dont take richard that seriously he does this with almost anything.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 19:13:20


[WM] Anonymous 
Level 52
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^ +1
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 19:13:25


J Russell Mikkelsen 
Level 4
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I love playing single player late at night. I think it's fun that you made this. I like it.

Sharpe, you went out of your way to insult someone for doing something fun for the community who isn't asking anything of you or anyone else in return. You're allowed to have any opinion about anything in the world. But you need to realize that expressing those opinions will have consequences. Especially when those opinions are aggressively against something that doesn't affect you or anyone else's life in any perceivable negative way. If you want to interpret the consequence you received as the establishment of a standard that no opinion in this community may ever be expressed if it is contrary to "the will of the people" (whatever that means), then go ahead. But I think that's a pretty wild and inaccurate interpretation.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 21:00:35


Ⓖ. Ⓐrun 
Level 57
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^ +1
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 21:17:55


Min34 
Level 60
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since when is rookie higher than Average (or Amateur)?
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 21:30:00


Niko 
Level 58
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This is not a bad idea, but need to do it in one time. I mean if you want to test your rating, start it (in many day, why not) but don't restart game if you are not enjoy with the time (number of turn) you take to finish one level.

Maybe i wiil try ;)
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 21:47:31


dunga • apex 
Level 57
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Interesting idea, there are players that i think are more indicated to calculate such a proper ranking, with even considering future record breakings.
Important to know what are the quickest available possibility in all levels
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 22:10:14

Grady
Level 14
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If you get under the lowest amount you still get the same number of points. Like if you get 13 turns on Level 2 then you still get 600 points.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 23:38:17

Darth Mylor {Warlighter}
Level 13
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Im not the biggest fan of single player, but this is a pretty neat way to make it more of a challenge. Although i agree with everyone else that rookie should be below average, but you can always change it.
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 23:47:49

Grady
Level 14
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I just put Rookie there to fill the spot, what should I put there instead that's between average and veteran (other than "above-average")
Single Player Rankings: 7/26/2012 23:59:10

♦CPU♦ Ryan2
Level 3
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u could just switch average and rookie
Single Player Rankings: 7/27/2012 00:08:06

Grady
Level 14
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I found there weren't any single player rankings, so I came up with a point system.
Level 1:
Over 11- 40 points
11- 45 points
10- 50 points
9- 60 points
8- 80 points
7- 120 points
6- 200 points

Level 2:
Over 22- 120 points
21-22- 135 points
19-20- 150 points
17-18- 180 points
16- 240 points
15- 360 points
14- 600 points

Level 3:
Over 31- 240 points
29-31- 270 points
26-28- 300 points
23-25- 360 points
21-22- 480 points
20- 720 points
19- 1,200 points

Europe Challenge:
Over 30- 300 points
28-30- 340 points
25-27- 375 points
22-24- 450 points
20-21- 600 points
19- 900 points
18- 1,500 points

Crazy Challenge:
Over 40- 500 points
36-40- 560 points
32-35- 625 points
28-31- 750 points
25-27- 1,000 points
23-24- 1,500 points
22- 2,500 points

Insane Challenge:
Over 50- 800 points
45-50- 900 points
39-44- 1,000 points
35-38- 1,200 points
31-34- 1,600 points
29-30- 2,400 points
28- 4,000 points

Rating:
Under 300- Just Started
300-600- Noob
601-1,200 Getting There
1,201-1,800 Amateur
1,801-2,500 Rookie
2,501-3,500 Average
3,501-5,000 Veteran
5,001-7,500 Champion
7,501-9,999 Master
10,000 Ultimate Warlight Player
There, happy now?
Single Player Rankings: 7/27/2012 15:14:39

Darkruler2005
Level 8
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"If you get under the lowest amount you still get the same number of points. Like if you get 13 turns on Level 2 then you still get 600 points."

Well, that's rather silly. I worked hard for that result!

Really, though, it's a subjective system made by a single player, so I think adjusting it according to what is possible would be no problem.
Single Player Rankings: 7/27/2012 15:37:10

Grady
Level 14
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I just made it the star amount.
Single Player Rankings: 7/27/2012 19:18:23


x 
Level 58
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i agree with richard in a way.

multi-player and single-player are quite different. multi-player has so many more variables. with AIs, if you play the exact same settings every time (with straight round and 0% luck), and make the same moves, you should get the exact same results.

this means it's far easier to determine the better player on single-player than multi-player. but personally, i find it makes single-player quite tedious. i haven't played it since i went on it as a tutorial when i first joined.
Single Player Rankings: 7/27/2012 19:20:31


x 
Level 58
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oh, and i meant to add: somebody being adept at single-player mode doesn't necessarily mean that they will be good at multi-player (although it would probably be a decent indicator).
Single Player Rankings: 7/27/2012 20:23:11

The Duke of Ben 
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Being good at single player just means you are good at the math of the game. I would think that would tend to help you with single player and team games, though it would likely not help nearly as much in FFA.

As for this thread, I wish I could compete, but I absolutely hate playing against the AI. I've started some single player games, but I quit just about every time.
Single Player Rankings: 1/16/2013 03:49:45

Major Joe
Level 8
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I enjoy playing single player at night, after dinner while watching a film. If I'm not playing warlight, I don't feel like I'm doing enough. I find it relaxing. I mostly just play the insane challenge. I've probably played it well over 100 times, and I guarantee you it is never the same. Sometimes I've won it 2-3 times in a row, and other times I've gone a good 20-30 games without a win, but I think overall I win it about 10% of the time--just enough to keep me trying. It took me a couple years to win in 28 turns, and then I stopped for a while. I often wonder how this could've been designed so well to be such a great challenge. I've managed to get stars on all the single player levels. Are there any others out there who have? Should we start an "ultimate warlight player" group (in line with the "rankings" above)?

One other thing that came to mind while browsing the comments on this thread. I could understand why one might disparage the single player mode, but personally I find it much preferable to the live player mode, for reasons one can easily glean from the prior comments. When one is looking for a strategic challenge, what's the point in being waylaid by petty gripes, politics and bad manners? Often in multi-player mode one has to wait days for others to take their turns--especially if they're not winning. Does this make the multi-player mode more challenging or a better indicator of skills? Only if the skills we're assessing have to do with being able to tolerate others' failings.
Single Player Rankings: 1/16/2013 15:44:53


Moros 
Level 50
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And what if you have't completed a level? The last two challenges were too hard for me, so how many points do I get for them?
Single Player Rankings: 1/16/2013 17:58:18


[WG] Warlightvet 
Level 16
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i'm terrible at single player, i keep considering that they're as good as players, so when i see they have triple my income i just surrender lol xD
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