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Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 19:19:32


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@skunk940

What do you mean there is no French word for "victories"? The English word victory is actually derived from from as is 40% of the English language.

The French word for Victory is "Victoire".
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 19:20:35


Zilmorph
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Whoops,

meant derived from French, not from from.
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 19:52:11


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Zilmorph is right, we have a word for "victory". It's simply "victoire". Actually the english word is derived from old french. Check Wiktionary.

Do you really think, like Bush, that we don't have a word for "entrepreneur"? (fyi entrepreneur is a french word)

Anyway, check this out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_France
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:02:48


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@Valar Morghulis

Sorry, I did mean old french as well.

Could old french also be called Gaulish? I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure there's another name for old french.
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:03:33


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oh, btw I'm french as well!
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:04:33


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Cool link. From this we learn that the popular notion of France being defeated in every war they've ever participated is inaccurate.

The truth appears to be: If you look at the history of the World as one long game here, the French did have periods where they held a lot of countries with a small number of armies, but are now nearly dead.
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:13:56


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In fakt many military words in the english and german languages have frensh roots.
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:33:46


Zilmorph
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3r9bOkYW9s

oxfored foss on the history of english
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:35:21


Zilmorph
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Oops, sorry not oxford, but the Open University.

(I really should pay more attention to what I type)
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:41:17


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Skunk, you have a huge misconception of the military might that was France for the longest time. After forming during many civil wars and fighting the English, they went on to successfully make the Holy Roman Empire look like a joke, and the rest of Europe for that matter. The reason they fell from that high point is only due to the stupidest idea, which is attacking Russia and trying to keep going even during winter.

If you want to talk about Modern times, it's taken a fully-fledged Germany to defeat France twice. Sorry, but even if the USA was located in the positioning of France, they would fall too. Most of the countries who fell to Germany during WWI and WWII were due to positioning. Specifically WWII, blitzkrieg is a strategy that is most effective when the army can breach quickly and be well supplied. (Basically, Blitzkrieg works on LAND, therefore all countries that Germany could reach by LAND fell quickly.)

In terms of military might, France historically was one of the best, only to be trumped by, in my opinion, THE BEST. (For those about to correct me and say USA, I myself am American. We have the biggest military, but there is not enough to judge on atm, besides our Navy.)
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:50:27

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Arun wrote:
I have heard a rumour that, for a time, when you typed in 'French Military Victories' in Google, an auto correct message comes up saying; did you mean French Military Defeats?

It's not an "autocorrection" it's merely a suggestion, based on how often certain searches have been performed.


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Francew even semi surrendered to avoid getting bombareded by Germany!

The Netherlands surrender after five days, after our second-biggest city was pretty much levelled. Google "Bombardement of Rotterdam". If you cannot properly defend yourself, is it brave to not surrender (and have countless civilians die) or is it outright stupid...?
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:50:31

♦CPU♦ Ryan2
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hey what are the first words that they teach people in France?
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:50:41

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I surrender
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:51:31

♦CPU♦ Ryan2
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no just kidding i dont really pay too much attention in history but i do remember that they have always been one of the european powers so i dont know where this stereotype came from
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:56:59


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ENGLISH BIAS uuum interesting especiallty since the last eprson to conquer england was french.
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 20:57:26


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sorry for double post
*person
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 21:22:58


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Scratch say : I've yet to lose to a frenchman at warlight, so the stereotype holds. The french suck at war

Come on man ! Do you want a single challenge or a team play challenge ?

@MilitaryManiac#Elite! : Thx for say my name, but here there is really better french warlight player than me : grona, Mian for example ;)
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 21:26:19

♦CPU♦ Ryan2
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well see in the nations cup how good the french are
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 21:38:31


Scratch
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hey what are the first words that they teach people in France?

I surrender

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Why are the French seen as failures in war?: 7/18/2012 21:49:22


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no scratch it's the french a-z
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